Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:43:29 -0500
From: George Neuner <gneun...@no.comcast.spam.net>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: Lisp vs. Scheme
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 02:43:32 -0400
Message-ID: <cpsnmvkfg9qcifm7jmepuahbuag7jumd1i@4ax.com>
References: <b295356a.0309181447.44dbee87@posting.google.com> <sfwhe38emlg.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 21
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.136.32
X-Trace: sv3-QAiqvuS6NncaBZ4d6TC8Nf3CYBO933ueoo47t+lclrwrSDtofi/86Z+jEVu75GIwiPQFduK+ds6KU+I!19pZG+xG/Vkt8ztqPP/pmJo1eljojnvig9YDSBK62wYnu3r6OwpOBWJOnn+SMfX7w8m2cXmK
X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net
X-DMCA-Complaints-To: d...@comcast.net
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.1

On 19 Sep 2003 13:04:27 -0400, Kent M Pitman <pit...@world.std.com>
wrote:

>Can someone give an example of a driving task that is much harder to do
>with an American car than a Japanese or German car?  

Have you driven a BMW lately?  In the 2000 model year they reversed
shift direction in the manual mode of their steptronic transmission -
you push away to downshift and pull toward the body to upshift.  

The design violates 100+ years of driver conditioning for moving the
gear lever: namely that lower gears are closer to your body and higher
gears are farther away.  This is true of every standard (think layout
of the H or 5-speed) and every automatic transmission I've ever seen.

An example?  Even after driving one for several days (a loaner while
my older one was being serviced), I still shifted the wrong way when
preoccupied by turning.

George