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Subject: Re: McCLIM 0.9.4 "Orthodox New Year" released!
Date: 15 Jan 2007 13:06:42 -0800
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Ken Tilton schrieb:

> Well, the Gtk shots look nice. It's about time. I know CLIM is about a
> "presentation management" abstraction and not eye-candy, but I was
> starting to think it somehow made eye-candy impossible. Probably it is
> just the McCLIM /developers/ who (like most Lispniks) are out of touch
> with application software development.

I agree that the new Gtk shots look really nice. Regarding the question
if the McCLIM developers might be out of touch with application
software development: I can't say, but on the other side... after
looking at the screenshots in

  http://www.tilton-technology.com/fg_tibco.html

I remember me thinking "hm looks like those old tcl/tk apps I ran on my
8 year old netbsd pc". Then I remembered that this actually is tcl/tk!
;-)

ciao,
Jochen