[Disclaimer: I am replying as a member of the ALU board, but not
Paolo Amoroso <amor...@mclink.it> writes:Until this year, this was absolutely true. One of the things we
> Peter Seibel <pe...@gigamonkeys.com> writes:
> > myself, I think a vibrant CLRFI process seems like the kind of thing
> I have the deepest respect for the ALU board and members. But, as an
couldn't even do was to get minutes together from the board meetings,
but at least from my memory even as far back as 2000, where we were
deciding whether to disband the ALU or not, we were aware of the
problem, which seemed to be that the ALU had lost its teeth. We
finally made the decision to scale back our goals, since we had no
money, and to concentrate on the one thing that we absolutely must
do, which was to organize conferences.
> It is no longer able to doFor reasons which I won't go into, including preserving one or more
> anything except organizing Lisp conferences--which is important and
> useful, mind you.
reputations, I'd prefer not to elaborate much, but you actually have
this backward. We (the ALU) are now, as of this year, finally able
to put on a conference by ourselves. Until this year, we were not able
to do so. Putting on yearly conferences is still our only stated
goal (though I do see some fluff on the website about other goals,
which are either misguided or out of date). Now that we've finally
had our own successful conference, we are now working on stating more
clearly our mission statement and adding goals, including things that
perhaps obviously should have been goals based on our name and the
mission it implies. But none of this was explicit, and I fear that
this is the reason why I've heard from so many of you as to the ALU
board's ineffectiveness to perform according to your expectations.
The long and short of it was that we were constantly on the verge of
not existing at all. We are out of those woods now, and can now
concentrate on what we will be able to tell you we will do for you.
Rest assured that we will make the goals we decide upon explicit, and
it will be placed on the website as soon as we decide.
> After over a year from my first inquiry, I still don't know whether IThe ILC2003 conference was our first attempt to run a conference
> will be able to purchase a copy of the ILC 2003 proceedings. Several
> weeks ago ALU contacted me and asked my postal address for shipping a
> CD with the proceedings.
> But things halted when I discovered that someone else from ALU,
> My trust in ALU's ability to do anything at all is limited right now.
ourselves. In many respects, it appeared to be a success. In other
ways, it was a failure that almost turned to disaster, as those of
you who tried to register at the hotel that Saturday may have
discovered. Some fast thinking people, including Heow Eide-Goodman
(now a board member, and I believe principal organizer of the Lispnyk
group) and Lilliana Avila from Franz, as well as some of the board
members, pulled the conference out of the flames. We lost money, we
lost records, and only last month finally pulled enough of the
proceedings together to be able to make a cd out of it. We're still
discussing what to do with any extra copies of the cds, after every
conference attendee is sure to have received one (another problem,
since our record of attendance conflicts). Paolo, I don't remember,
but if you were an ILC2003 attendee, you are due a free copy of the cd,
otherwise you'll probably have to wait a bit longer. And yes, I
understand that it is a travesty to have had to wait this long for
proceedings, but that is part of the nature of this failure.
The ILC2005 conference went much, much smoother, and we even had
I've never said anything about the ALU to date, because frankly I
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