You are an idiot. Common Lisp is only one of a number of Lisps, though more popular than most. Scheme may or may not be a Lisp (it is a call-by-value impure untyped/unitype functional language with s-expression syntax, macro systems, a special top-level environment, and letrec), but it derives directly from Lisp, was invented in large part by the creator of Common Lisp, and is generally considered a Lisp.
Common Lisp is the "stop-this-desaster-you-stubborn-kids-lisp"
LISP dialects unified.
> though more popular than most. Scheme may or may not be a Lisp > (it is a call-by-value impure untyped/unitype functional language > with s-expression syntax, macro systems, a special top-level > environment, and letrec),
funny things all this.
> but it derives directly from Lisp,
aha.
> was invented in large part by the creator of Common Lisp,
Christopher Browne wrote: > A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Feuer <fe...@his.com> wrote:
>>ilias wrote:
>>>i've read them.
>>>scheme makes no sense.
>>>all lisp-dialects => common lisp.
>>>scheme not.
>>>scheme = the most stubborn lispers.
>>>at least it looks so.
>>>anyway.
>>You are an idiot. Common Lisp is only one of a number of Lisps, >>though more popular than most. Scheme may or may not be a Lisp >>(it is a call-by-value impure untyped/unitype functional language >>with s-expression syntax, macro systems, a special top-level >>environment, and letrec), but it derives directly from Lisp, was >>invented in large part by the creator of Common Lisp, and is generally >>considered a Lisp.
> You should be aware that this guy has been trolling comp.lang.lisp on > the effective pretext that he's trying to "learn Lisp" but based on > loudly trumpeting his misunderstandings of the ANSI standard as being > /errors/ in the standard.
i'd like to ask you to not spread missinformation and to not discredit my person.
what you are stating above is simply a form of: this guy lies.
whatever i do in c.l.l. was publically anounced in c.l.l.
i'm assimilating the best of lisp, throwing away its garbage (means: avoid to use/learn the parts that i detect as irrelevant, redundant etc.).
> The bizarre part is that he apparently doesn't really know much of the > language, but heads to some of the most abstruse edges to find what he > regards as 'errors in the language.'
> If he visited Scheme, I'm sure that call/cc and some of the more > perverse lambda function forms would prove "grist for the mill."
> And unlike the disputes that occasionally take place over what the > pathological contents of lists ought to be (the "Bushnell > controversy"), where know that the people involved in the dispute are > knowledgeable as they have actually /written/ Scheme implementations, > you'd get bald statements like
>>>i've read them.
>>>scheme makes no sense.
> And if you respond to that the least bit unkindly, you'll get accused > of "not being friendly."
> "I had recent occasion to view your Presentation Announcement on care > and feeding of automatic weapons during lecture hall. I found it most > amusing. I would very much like to see and/or contribute future > material.
> We have similar problems here at Berkeley, though it has been > difficult to wean our students away from more the more mundane > assortment of Browning Hi-Power's, Beretta 92SBF's and Sig-Sauer > P226's. The 9mm clique is pretty strong here, and the young grad > students fairly parsimonious. They tend to balk at the idea of > spending enough money on ammo to make full auto firefights > practical. Lately, they've taken to sniping at each other from the > Campanile tower and engaging in loose hit-and-run guerrilla tactics > during finals. This is obviously not the American Way and needs to be > changed. While I've been able to slowly wean them into more > progressive arms (such as the Beretta 93R and an occasional mini-uzi), > I still can't seem to get past the supply problem.
> My questions are:
> "Do you buy your ammo in bulk, or do appointed individuals do shifts > on a progressive reloader?"
* at news wrote: > It should be a subset of ANSI Common Lisp.
call/cc.
I advise anyone who reads cls without reading cll and is considering getting into a discussion with Ilias to have a quick search on Google groups (http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=c...) for his postings in cll to see what kind of thing you are likely to get into.
