On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:57:04 -0800, jos...@corporate-world.lisp.de wrote: > On 15 Jan., 17:48, deppp <mikhail.mal...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Help young lispers generation :)
>> Can't find any affordable copy of it. And taking it in library is not >> an option in my 3rd world country.
>> I'm also interested in norvig's books. Thanks.
> Possibly the PDF or Postscript version of On Lisp is useful for you.
> Paul Graham has made those available on his website:
> He he! I just realized that "on Lisp" was a trick like the "chinual"! > :-)
Not knowing the work, I googled for chinual, and apparently it refers to the Lisp Machine Manual. Is this some kind of pun, or an inside joke? Please excuse my ignorance, I am too young to have used a Lisp Machine.
Tamas K Papp <tkp...@gmail.com> wrote: +--------------- | Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: | > He he! I just realized that "on Lisp" was a trick like the "chinual"! | > :-) | | Not knowing the work, I googled for chinual, and apparently it refers | to the Lisp Machine Manual. Is this some kind of pun, or an inside joke? +---------------
The latter. The original softcover volume has the words "Lisp Machine Manual", approximately right-justified, one above the other, tilted down slightly, wrapped around from the back cover across the spine to the front cover, split approximately as follows:
spine back| |front +--------+-+--------+ | | | L i s p| | M a c h i n e| The "a" & "c" are folded around the edges of the spine. | M|a|n u a l | The first "a" is entirely on the spine. +--------+-+--------+
So if you look just at the front cover head-on, you will see:
+--------+ | L i s p| c h i n e| \__ contracted into "chinual" |n u a l | / +--------+
Downloaded a photo of the front cover, pieced together a spine, and uploaded them to a popular print-on-demand publisher for a personal copy. ISTR it being around $12.
AIUI, personal copies of this sort are fine; but making the completed POD project publicly available might be copyright infringement. If PG himself did this, it should be fine...
On 2010-01-15, deppp <mikhail.mal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Help young lispers generation :)
> Can't find any affordable copy of it. And taking it in library is not > an option in my 3rd world country.
> I'm also interested in norvig's books. Thanks.
I don't have On Lisp, but I'm willing to sell /out/ Lisp, like everyone else. Bidding starts at one cent per parenthesis. Structural macros? My idea! Check out the Yacc parser ...
> Downloaded a photo of the front cover, pieced together a spine, and > uploaded them to a popular print-on-demand publisher for a personal > copy. ISTR it being around $12.
Hello,
Where I live there's a print-on-demand service in a book store who can print and bind out-of-print or original books, from PDF files for the cover and back page and the book. They look just perfect.
I've already used the above command (thanks!) to reformat the original PDF file with margins suitable for printing and binding, and have also downloaded the front cover large gif from PG's site and then converted it via gif2tiff and tiff2pdf to a PDF page.
But unfortunately, after having looked almost everywhere (amazon, other on line book stores, book review sites, many Lispers' sites, and even the few auctions on ebay), I haven't been able so far to find a scanned image of the back cover of this book.
Would any owner of the printed book be kind enough to post somewhere a scanned (readable!) picture of the back cover? TIFF or GIF would be best.
Or if anyone knows where such image can be found, a link would be appreciated!
marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> writes: > Would any owner of the printed book be kind enough to post somewhere a > scanned (readable!) picture of the back cover? TIFF or GIF would be > best.
On Mar 17, 3:05 am, Alain Picard <Dr.Alain.Pic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> writes: > > Would any owner of the printed book be kind enough to post somewhere a > > scanned (readable!) picture of the back cover? TIFF or GIF would be > > best.
The image is 655KB, resolution 904x640 at 72dpi. The image includes: back (424px), spine (56px), and front (424px), which should print at (15 + 1.9 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> On Mar 17, 3:05 am, Alain Picard <Dr.Alain.Pic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> writes: > > > Would any owner of the printed book be kind enough to post somewhere a > > > scanned (readable!) picture of the back cover? TIFF or GIF would be > > > best.
> The image is 655KB, resolution 904x640 at 72dpi. The image > includes: back (424px), spine (56px), and front (424px), which > should print at (15 + 1.9 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> M
I tried to download the picture but it does not work. Would it be possible to re-upload it or send it to me directly by email?
marcoecc wrote: > Where I live there's a print-on-demand service in a book store who > can print and bind out-of-print or original books, from PDF files > for the cover and back page and the book. They look just perfect.
By the way, someone scanned the missing figures of "on lisp". You can find them here: http://www.zerobeat.in/wiki/doku.php?id=onlisp_missing_figures AFAIK no one has yet integrated them (and the back cover too!) to produce the definitive PDF editon :)
> On Mar 17, 3:26 pm, marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 17, 3:05 am, Alain Picard <Dr.Alain.Pic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> writes: > > > > Would any owner of the printed book be kind enough to post somewhere a > > > > scanned (readable!) picture of the back cover? TIFF or GIF would be > > > > best.
> > The image is 655KB, resolution 904x640 at 72dpi. The image > > includes: back (424px), spine (56px), and front (424px), which > > should print at (15 + 1.9 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> > M
> I tried to download the picture but it does not work. Would it be > possible to re-upload it or send it to me directly by email?
> Thanks a lot.
Hi,
I have just tried the link again, and it seems to work perfectly. Perhaps you could try downloading it from a different computer/place?
BTW, thanks to Alain who was so kind to scan and send me the spine as well, that TIFF should now be an almost exact copy of the whole original cover.
The image is now 677KB, resolution 900x640 at 72dpi. The image includes: back (424px), spine (52px), and front (424px), which should print at (15 + 1.8 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> On Mar 21, 7:16 pm, proton <leosara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 17, 3:26 pm, marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 17, 3:05 am, Alain Picard <Dr.Alain.Pic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > Would any owner of the printed book be kind enough to post somewhere a > > > > > scanned (readable!) picture of the back cover? TIFF or GIF would be > > > > > best.
> > > The image is 655KB, resolution 904x640 at 72dpi. The image > > > includes: back (424px), spine (56px), and front (424px), which > > > should print at (15 + 1.9 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> > > M
> > I tried to download the picture but it does not work. Would it be > > possible to re-upload it or send it to me directly by email?
> > Thanks a lot.
> Hi,
> I have just tried the link again, and it seems to work perfectly. > Perhaps you could try downloading it from a different computer/place?
> BTW, thanks to Alain who was so kind to scan and send me the spine as > well, > that TIFF should now be an almost exact copy of the whole original > cover.
> The image is now 677KB, resolution 900x640 at 72dpi. The image > includes: back (424px), spine (52px), and front (424px), which > should print at (15 + 1.8 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> Marco
Thanks, you are right. It was some wrong setting for opening TIFF files in my browser. The link works just fine.
> On Mar 21, 7:16 pm, proton <leosara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 17, 3:26 pm, marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 17, 3:05 am, Alain Picard <Dr.Alain.Pic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > marcoecc <marco.eccettu...@gmail.com> writes: > > > > > Would any owner of the printed book be kind enough to post somewhere a > > > > > scanned (readable!) picture of the back cover? TIFF or GIF would be > > > > > best.
> > > The image is 655KB, resolution 904x640 at 72dpi. The image > > > includes: back (424px), spine (56px), and front (424px), which > > > should print at (15 + 1.9 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> > > M
> > I tried to download the picture but it does not work. Would it be > > possible to re-upload it or send it to me directly by email?
> > Thanks a lot.
> Hi,
> I have just tried the link again, and it seems to work perfectly. > Perhaps you could try downloading it from a different computer/place?
> BTW, thanks to Alain who was so kind to scan and send me the spine as > well, > that TIFF should now be an almost exact copy of the whole original > cover.
> The image is now 677KB, resolution 900x640 at 72dpi. The image > includes: back (424px), spine (52px), and front (424px), which > should print at (15 + 1.8 + 15) * 22.5 cm, about the book size.
> Marco
Thanks, you are right. It was some wrong setting for opening TIFF files in my browser. The link works just fine.
