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Marcel K Haesok

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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Hi,
I went here,
http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
and saw something like a compiler called,
1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.

Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
Thanks Marcel

Marcel K Haesok

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
to Sunil Mishra
Thanks again, Sunil. Like the old saying, free advice is good advice.
Newsgroups are great! Hearing things straight from the horse's mouth so to
speak. How did I live without newsgroup a while back, I wonder. thanks again.
Marcel

Sunil Mishra wrote:

> Marcel K Haesok <Hae...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I went here,
> > http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> > and saw something like a compiler called,
> > 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> > 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
>

> TCL/Tk have little to do with lisp.


>
> > Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
> > Thanks Marcel
>

> What OS/machine do you have?
>
> The major lisp vendors have free versions to play with.
>
> Windows:
> http://www.harlequin.com/
> http://www.franz.com/ (Linux too)
>
> Mac:
> http://www.digitool.com/
>
> Though I think the demo version that digitool offers is very limited. Then
> there are bunch of free lisps, which I will not attempt to describe. Check
> the ALU site from the other posting for more information.
>
> Sunil

Marcel K Haesok

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
to Kent M Pitman
Thanks a bunch Kent. I really appreciate it. Your info is really just the
ticket for me. Thanks. Marcel

Kent M Pitman wrote:

> Marcel K Haesok <Hae...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I went here,
> > http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> > and saw something like a compiler called,
> > 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> > 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> >

> > Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
>

> I don't recommend this approach for someone new to the language.
>
> Both franz and harlequin have good-quality versions of their
> commercialware available free. The obvious web sites apply. The free
> stuff is featured fairly prominently, though they disagree on what to
> call it. (Harlequin calls its free offering its "personal edition";
> franz has a personal edition that costs but some other thing that's free.
> Ignore the names and just read the descriptions.)
>
> For an introductory text, try Paul Graham's ANSI Common Lisp
> (as a stopgap until I get done writing my own book to supersede it. ;-)
>
> For reference doc, see
> http://www.harlequin.com/education/books/HyperSpec/FrontMatter/index.html
> which is a webbed version that is essentially content-equivalent to the
> ANSI CL specification.
>
> Other info about Lisp (resources, jobs, mailing lists, faqs, etc.)
> can be found at the Association of Lisp Users (ALU) interim home page, at:
> http://www.elwoodcorp.com/alu/
>
> Good luck.

Kent M Pitman

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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Sunil Mishra

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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Marcel K Haesok <Hae...@earthlink.net> writes:

> Hi,
> I went here,
> http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> and saw something like a compiler called,
> 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.

TCL/Tk have little to do with lisp.

> Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?

Craig Brozefsky

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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Marcel K Haesok <Hae...@earthlink.net> writes:

> Hi,
> I went here,
> http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> and saw something like a compiler called,
> 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
>

> Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
> Thanks Marcel

If you are in debian, may I suggest the CMUCL .deb. If you have apt
installed, which you should if you are running slink, then the
following command will install it:

apt-get cmucl

It is a Lisp system which is public domain so it will be in the Debian
proper, and since it is a .deb and not a tarball from somewhere else
you might find it easier to install/remove.


--
Craig Brozefsky <cr...@red-bean.com>
Less matter, more form! - Bruno Schulz

Marcel K Haesok

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
to Craig Brozefsky
Thanks Craig. I am truly grateful to everyone. Marcel

Fernando D. Mato Mira

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Sunil Mishra wrote:

> Marcel K Haesok <Hae...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I went here,
> > http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> > and saw something like a compiler called,
> > 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> > 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
>

> TCL/Tk have little to do with lisp.
>

The `little' being STk:

http://kaolin.unice.fr/

Regards,

--
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Real-Time SW Eng & Networking
Advanced Systems Engineering Division
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David B. Lamkins

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Mar 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/11/99
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In article <efyu2vs...@whizzy.cc.gatech.edu> , Sunil Mishra
<smi...@whizzy.cc.gatech.edu> wrote:

[snip]

> Mac:
> http://www.digitool.com/
>
> Though I think the demo version that digitool offers is very limited.

The limitation is this: You get 15 minutes to use the MCL demo each time you
start it up. There's a floating timer window, so there are no surprises.
If you have a larger project such that you can't evaluate it in 15 minutes,
Digitool will grant you a temporary key that enables MCL demo for 30 days.

Aside from the time limit, the demo version is fully functional. Of course,
the CD-ROM comes with a few hundred megabytes of additional source,
documentation, examples, demos, etc.

--
David B. Lamkins <http://www.teleport.com/~dlamkins/>

Recently undead Isabelle to the archangel Gabriel in "The Prophecy II":
"So, you're keeping me alive because you don't know DOS?"


Marcel K Haesok

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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Thank you, David. Marcel.
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