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Yves S. Garret  
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 More options Aug 22 2012, 1:28 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
From: "Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:28:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 1:28 pm
Subject: Where are the Lisp jobs?
Anyone know?  Everywhere I go, many tend to view Lisp as "that AI language", to be kept in a university laboratory that a professor without a haircut might use.

I'm learning to code in Lisp in my free time (the biggest challenge is finding a good 2+ hour time block that I can sit uninterrupted, not easy), but without any sort of immersion, this is a tall proposition.


 
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Yves S. Garret  
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 More options Aug 22 2012, 1:37 pm
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From: "Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:37:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 1:37 pm
Subject: Where are the Lisp jobs?
Anyone know?  Everywhere I go, many regard Lisp as "that AI language", something to be kept in a university laboratory to be used by a professor that needs a haircut.  Something that's "quaint".

I'm learning Lisp in my free time (hard to find 2+ hour time blocks without being interrupted) and a tall order.  I'd love to write code professionally.


 
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Yves S. Garret  
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 More options Aug 22 2012, 1:38 pm
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From: "Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:38:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?

On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:37:34 PM UTC-4, Yves S. Garret wrote:
> Anyone know?  Everywhere I go, many regard Lisp as "that AI language", something to be kept in a university laboratory to be used by a professor that needs a haircut.  Something that's "quaint".

> I'm learning Lisp in my free time (hard to find 2+ hour time blocks without being interrupted) and a tall order.  I'd love to write code professionally.

Ok, weird.  I thought that the first one would not be posted.  Could someone delete the 2nd post?

 
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Pascal J. Bourguignon  
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 More options Aug 22 2012, 2:26 pm
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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <p...@informatimago.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:26:53 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?
"Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:37:34 PM UTC-4, Yves S. Garret wrote:
>> Anyone know?  Everywhere I go, many regard Lisp as "that AI language", something to be kept in a university laboratory to be used by a professor that needs a haircut.  Something that's "quaint".

>> I'm learning Lisp in my free time (hard to find 2+ hour time blocks without being interrupted) and a tall order.  I'd love to write code professionally.

> Ok, weird.  I thought that the first one would not be posted.  Could someone delete the 2nd post?

Yes, you.  Only you, if you have configured a cancel key can cancel it.
Not that does any good, once the worms are outside the can…

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Pascal J. Bourguignon  
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 More options Aug 22 2012, 2:28 pm
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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <p...@informatimago.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:28:06 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?
"Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com> writes:

> Anyone know?  Everywhere I go, many tend to view Lisp as "that AI
> language", to be kept in a university laboratory that a professor
> without a haircut might use.

> I'm learning to code in Lisp in my free time (the biggest challenge is
> finding a good 2+ hour time block that I can sit uninterrupted, not
> easy), but without any sort of immersion, this is a tall proposition.

It's easy: create your own lisp job.  Be free lance and select customers
who don't care what language you use, or build a start up and as owner,
impose lisp.  Find a product for you customers and hire lisp programmers.

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__Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
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Robert Klemme  
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 More options Aug 22 2012, 3:28 pm
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From: Robert Klemme <shortcut...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:28:17 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?
On 22.08.2012 20:26, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:

> Yes, you.  Only you, if you have configured a cancel key can cancel
> it. Not that does any good, once the worms are outside the can…

"... waiting for the worms to come..."

;-)

        robert

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Yves S. Garret  
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 More options Aug 23 2012, 10:29 pm
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From: "Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:29:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 10:29 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?

Yes, that would be ideal.  However, getting to that level is not easy and I was hoping to speed the effort up by doing actual development for someone in the meantime.

 
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Paul Rubin  
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 More options Aug 29 2012, 12:34 pm
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:34:33 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?
"Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com> writes:

> Anyone know?

There's lots of MatzLisp jobs-- just use a search engine.

 
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Raymond Wiker  
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 More options Aug 29 2012, 1:03 pm
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From: Raymond Wiker <rwi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:03:59 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?

Paul Rubin <no.em...@nospam.invalid> writes:
> "Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com> writes:
>> Anyone know?

> There's lots of MatzLisp jobs-- just use a search engine.

        That won't help, as Ruby is not Lisp...

 
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Pascal J. Bourguignon  
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 More options Aug 29 2012, 1:46 pm
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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <p...@informatimago.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:46:11 +0200
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?

Raymond Wiker <rwi...@gmail.com> writes:
> Paul Rubin <no.em...@nospam.invalid> writes:

>> "Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Anyone know?

>> There's lots of MatzLisp jobs-- just use a search engine.

>    That won't help, as Ruby is not Lisp...

More or less.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/56fce4adeaa79f68
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/0a61798179dc6ed4

Let's not be sectarian, in 1959, LISP was written with commas too:

  (LAMBDA,(A VALUE,ANOTHER VALUE),(PLUS,A VALUE,ANOTHER VALUE))

instead of

  (lambda (a-value another-value) (plus a-value another-value))

Perhaps in 40 years, Ruby will have its ANSI Common Ruby standard (and
then be indistinguishable from Common Lisp).

The problem is not that ruby is not lisp.  It's that ruby programmers
are not lispers.  Try to write a simple ruby program that use only ruby
features such as symbols, arrays, etc, to represent some C++ code you
want to generate, and watch the reaction of your cow.orkers and project
manager…

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ccc31807  
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 More options Aug 31 2012, 2:33 pm
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From: ccc31807 <carte...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 31 2012 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?

On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:28:14 PM UTC-4, Yves S. Garret wrote:
> Anyone know?  

First, work for an employer who allows you to choose your technology. In my case, by boos doesn't care what I've used, so over the past eight years, I've used Java, Perl, Python, Common Lusp, and MySQL, PostgreSQL, and SQLite. As long as I do a good job, I can do it as I please.

Second, use Lisp in your part time and community work. Volunteer to help out with the technical services of some organization, and use Lisp to do it. True, you won't be paid in money, but I've discovered that you can leverage this into paying opportunities.

CC.


 
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Yves S. Garret  
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 More options Sep 3 2012, 8:43 pm
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From: "Yves S. Garret" <yoursurrogate...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:43:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 3 2012 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?
Thanks.  I'll keep those tips in mind.


 
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tar...@google.com  
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 More options Sep 4 2012, 3:19 pm
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From: tar...@google.com
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 4 2012 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Where are the Lisp jobs?
ITA has a large Lisp codebase

http://www.itasoftware.com/careers/


 
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