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Adam

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Jan 27, 2008, 5:06:35 PM1/27/08
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Is there current open-source lisp work being done on rdf/semantic
web?

The available libs in the area seem to be:
- SWCLOS, for which I can find many papers but no actual code.
- ABCL-web, (http://abcl-web.sourceforge.net/) which looks enormously
promising but seems to have been a one-off alpha announcement.
- Suave, (http://common-lisp.net/project/suave/) another very
interesting announcement including a skeleton template- and OO-based
web framework with basically no docs and lots of incomplete code.
- Wilbur2, (http://wilbur-rdf.sourceforge.net/) which does not seem to
work with any CL I have. On SBCL, I got around both the symbol
redefinition and the keyword-as-symbol problem (as documented:
http://www.lassila.org/blog/archive/2006/01/is_wilbur_dead.html) but
ran into sbcl-only code based on an old version of threading support
and calls to some now-undefined constructs.

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has used these systems,
gotten wilbur to install on an open-source lisp, or munged their own
library.

There's always Allegro, but I thought I would check my options before
heading down that road.

Thanks,

Adam

Rainer Joswig

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Jan 27, 2008, 5:13:02 PM1/27/08
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In article
<1131ec79-8419-43b9...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Adam <aso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there current open-source lisp work being done on rdf/semantic
> web?
>
> The available libs in the area seem to be:
> - SWCLOS, for which I can find many papers but no actual code.

http://www-kasm.nii.ac.jp/~koide/SWCLOS2-en.files/page0001.htm

Slobodan Blazeski

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Jan 27, 2008, 7:21:21 PM1/27/08
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On Jan 27, 11:13 pm, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
> In article
> <1131ec79-8419-43b9-b6a1-5f2aab004...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

Where do you found this things Rainer ? it seems that no matter what
kind of resources people ask for you always has the right answer.
Thanks anyway.

cheers
Slobodan
http://tourdelisp.blogspot.com/

Rainer Joswig

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Jan 27, 2008, 7:43:48 PM1/27/08
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In article
<02f6cc42-83c4-4991...@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Slobodan Blazeski <slobodan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have the big Google foo. Actually, I read the Google manual.
Well, no, I type in some words and press 'I feel lucky'.
Hmm, maybe it's because Google's MapReduce is obvious for a Lisp hacker?
;-) But it could also be that I was hearing the talk about
SWCLOS at the International Lisp Conference 2005. ;-)

Probably this is a good time to mention the upcoming ECLM
http://weitz.de/eclm2008/ and the ELS 2008
http://prog.vub.ac.be/~pcostanza/els08/ ?! Lisp enthusiasts
and other interested people should definitely check that
out.

>
> cheers
> Slobodan
> http://tourdelisp.blogspot.com/

Edi Weitz

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Jan 27, 2008, 7:53:21 PM1/27/08
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:43:48 +0100, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:

> Probably this is a good time to mention the upcoming ECLM
> http://weitz.de/eclm2008/ and the ELS 2008
> http://prog.vub.ac.be/~pcostanza/els08/ ?!

Thanks!

> Lisp enthusiasts and other interested people should definitely check
> that out.

Will you also be there? Or did we manage to coincide with the Hamburg
Marathon once again?

Edi.

--

European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 19/20, 2008

http://weitz.de/eclm2008/

Real email: (replace (subseq "spam...@agharta.de" 5) "edi")

j...@crispylogics.com

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Jan 27, 2008, 10:56:25 PM1/27/08
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On 27 Jan., 23:06, Adam <asol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> - Wilbur2, (http://wilbur-rdf.sourceforge.net/) which does not seem to
> work with any CL I have. On SBCL, I got around both the symbol
> redefinition and the keyword-as-symbol problem (as documented:http://www.lassila.org/blog/archive/2006/01/is_wilbur_dead.html) but
> ran into sbcl-only code based on an old version of threading support
> and calls to some now-undefined constructs.
>
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has used these systems,
> gotten wilbur to install on an open-source lisp, or munged their own
> library.

I'm maintaining e a more recent snapshot of wilbur2. It's at least
tested to work on LispWorks. You can try your luck here:

http://www.crispylogics.com/en/downloads/opensource/index.html

ciao,
Jochen

Alex Mizrahi

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Jan 28, 2008, 3:02:50 AM1/28/08
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A> - ABCL-web, (http://abcl-web.sourceforge.net/) which looks enormously
A> promising but seems to have been a one-off alpha announcement.

what do you mean? code is released, and it works.

certainly functionality is in no way complete, and it's packaged in a
big-ball-of-mud with rest of ABCL-web..
but i believe it should be fairly easy to extend it wrapping more Jena/ARQ
constructs, and re-packaging ain't that hard..


Adam

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Jan 28, 2008, 10:59:31 AM1/28/08
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Thanks to Rainer and Jochen for the two links. My apologies to Alex, I
will certainly look into ABCL-web.

As long as you're being helpful and contradicting my expectations, I
don't suppose anyone's done work on RDF-in-HTML (RDFa, etc.) or RDFON,
huh?

-Adam

Rainer Joswig

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Jan 28, 2008, 1:41:03 PM1/28/08
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In article <uzluql...@agharta.de>, Edi Weitz <spam...@agharta.de>
wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:43:48 +0100, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
>
> > Probably this is a good time to mention the upcoming ECLM
> > http://weitz.de/eclm2008/ and the ELS 2008
> > http://prog.vub.ac.be/~pcostanza/els08/ ?!
>
> Thanks!
>
> > Lisp enthusiasts and other interested people should definitely check
> > that out.
>
> Will you also be there? Or did we manage to coincide with the Hamburg
> Marathon once again?

I have not yet scheduled what to do in April. The ECLM meeting
is very tempting, though.

>
> Edi.

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