I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone within a year or two.
Maybe Hal Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman are going to retire or have more important things to do and that no one is brave enough to take over (and live up to the standard)?
Why would someone not take effing 6.001 and SICP just because it's being phased out. Sounds like a reason TO take it. Not necessarily you, Patrick, you win awards for desiging Lisp dialects, but definitely the average freshman...
"Patrick Collison" <patrickcolli...@gmail.com> wrote: >I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few >people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. >It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics >class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still >sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are >open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take >the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future >after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone >within a year or two.
In article <51pnl2139v1i1l0a44uk42v7t4qp5ra...@4ax.com>, Ralph Richard Cook <ralphc-nos...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Why would someone not take effing 6.001 and SICP just because it's > being phased out. Sounds like a reason TO take it.
If it will no longer be part of the requirement for an EECS degree, you might want to use the time that the course would take for something that WILL be. If you take this class, it's effectively an elective, and there's only so much room in your schedule for electives.
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Hal is in fact helping with this new course. I've seen him in the lab weekly while students taking the class work on its projects (understanding them to a lesser degree, TA's comment).
Liu Fung Sin wrote: > Maybe Hal Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman are going to retire or have > more important things to do and that no one is brave enough to take > over (and live up to the standard)?
Patrick Collison wrote: > I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few > people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. > It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics > class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still > sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are > open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take > the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future > after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone > within a year or two.
Was there any specific reason given? It sounds like an excellent course. It seems funny that they are thinking of dropping it now that Lisp is picking up again...
> I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few > people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. > It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics > class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still > sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are > open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take > the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future > after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone > within a year or two.
Patrick Collison wrote: > I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few > people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. > It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics > class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still > sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are > open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take > the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future > after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone > within a year or two.
Didn't you write a lisp interpreter of some sort? SICP would probably have been going over old ground for you. Anyway, hopefully the new course will be good. Though I do share Minsky's view that robotics is distracting, see http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,58714-0.html (I wouldn't be quite as critical as he is though).
> Was there any specific reason given? It sounds like an excellent > course. It seems funny that they are thinking of dropping it now that > Lisp is picking up again...
What makes you say it is picking up again?
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Patrick Collison wrote: > I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few > people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. > It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics > class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still > sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are > open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take > the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future > after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone > within a year or two.
I just received my copy of SICP in the mail after hearing such great things about it. Was there anything to 6.001 besides the material in the book? Will just reading through it give me a pretty good idea of what was involved in the course itself?
dust...@gmail.com wrote: > Patrick Collison wrote: > > I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few > > people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. > > It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics > > class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still > > sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are > > open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take > > the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future > > after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone > > within a year or two.
> I just received my copy of SICP in the mail after hearing such great > things about it. Was there anything to 6.001 besides the material in > the book? Will just reading through it give me a pretty good idea of > what was involved in the course itself?
These video lectures should go well with the book.
jon.le...@gmail.com wrote: > dust...@gmail.com wrote: > > Patrick Collison wrote: > > > I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few > > > people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. > > > It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics > > > class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still > > > sketchy (the new syllabus is being worked out), but the faculty are > > > open enough about the fact to tell freshmen (like myself) not to take > > > the class. 6.001 will still be offered next semester, but its future > > > after that is very murky, and it will definitely (I'm told) be gone > > > within a year or two.
> > I just received my copy of SICP in the mail after hearing such great > > things about it. Was there anything to 6.001 besides the material in > > the book? Will just reading through it give me a pretty good idea of > > what was involved in the course itself?
> These video lectures should go well with the book.
dust...@gmail.com writes: > I just received my copy of SICP in the mail after hearing such great > things about it. Was there anything to 6.001 besides the material in > the book? Will just reading through it give me a pretty good idea of > what was involved in the course itself?
You may want the Instructor's Manual [1], also, the website [2] has good stuff like code from the book, errata, etc.
"Patrick Collison" <patrickcolli...@gmail.com> writes: > I don't think there's been any official announcement, so I guess a few > people here may be interested to learn that MIT are phasing out 6.001. > It's going to be replaced with some kind of hybrid programming-robotics > class (I think it will use Python, but I'm not sure). Details are still
I am new to functional programming (been reading Usenet off and on for years but this is my first posting to this group) although I have been admiring it from a distance for a year or two. I have been watching my downloaded copies of the 6.001 lectures and been very impressed. It became quite apparent why they would use Lisp (scheme) to teach an intro to computer programming class. Now I am shocked to hear that they are changing. Any reason given why? Has Abelson lost his religion? I am a big fan of python also but it just isn't functional programming and it will be difficult to cleanly demonstrate some of the things they demonstrate in with Lisp in 6.001.
