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Karsten Poeck  
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 More options Sep 23 2002, 6:27 pm
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From: "Karsten Poeck" <vs1...@terra.es>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:18:14 +0200
Local: Mon, Sep 23 2002 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment
oops 978 is correct I only counted funcitions not symbols

Karsten
PS:  Still interested what CLtS 1.9 means.

"Erik Naggum" <e...@naggum.no> wrote in message

news:3241802755146984@naggum.no...


 
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Erik Naggum  
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 More options Sep 23 2002, 6:33 pm
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From: Erik Naggum <e...@naggum.no>
Date: 23 Sep 2002 22:33:48 +0000
Local: Mon, Sep 23 2002 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment
* "Karsten Poeck" <vs1...@terra.es>
| what is CLtS 1.9? Steele II?

  Common Lisp the Standard.

| I count about 758 exported symbols in LW and ACL as in the appendix

  No, you do not.  (Which appendix?)  What the hell was that list of symbols
  for?  Post the code you used, instead.  It is probably broken.

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Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

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Erik Naggum  
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 More options Sep 23 2002, 7:20 pm
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From: Erik Naggum <e...@naggum.no>
Date: 23 Sep 2002 23:20:19 +0000
Local: Mon, Sep 23 2002 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment
* "Karsten Poeck" <vs1...@terra.es>
| PS:  Still interested what CLtS 1.9 means.

  So impatient.  In case the 1.9 is still a mystery, it is clause 1.9, which
  had the rest of the line as its title.  Please familiarize yourself with the
  standard.  There really is no substitute for knowing it.

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Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway

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Joe Marshall  
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 More options Sep 24 2002, 1:21 am
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From: "Joe Marshall" <prunesqual...@attbi.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 05:21:43 GMT
Local: Tues, Sep 24 2002 1:21 am
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment

"Tim Bradshaw" <t...@cley.com> wrote in message news:ey3elbk4co7.fsf@cley.com...
> * Erik Naggum wrote:R
> * Tim Bradshaw
> > | There are 700-and-something symbols exported from the CL package

> >   978, actually.  CLtS 1.9 Symbols in the Common-Lisp package.

> Well... 700 to an order of magnitude, anyway and who ever does sums
> more accurately than that (:-).

Just write it 7.0e2 and mumble something about round-off error.

 
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Tim Bradshaw  
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 More options Sep 24 2002, 6:10 am
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From: Tim Bradshaw <t...@cley.com>
Date: 24 Sep 2002 07:57:12 +0100
Local: Tues, Sep 24 2002 2:57 am
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment

* Joe Marshall wrote:
> Just write it 7.0e2 and mumble something about round-off error.

Well, I'm happy if I can establish a finite bound.

 
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Torsten  
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 More options Sep 24 2002, 6:15 am
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From: Torsten <t_usenet_d...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:15:21 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Sep 24 2002 6:15 am
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment

Karsten Poeck wrote:
> oops 978 is correct I only counted funcitions not symbols
> PS:  Still interested what CLtS 1.9 means.

Common Lisp the Standard section 1.9. The title of that section
is "Symbols in the COMMON-LISP Package" and its first paragraph
states that it contains "a complete enumeration of the 978
external symbols in the COMMON-LISP package". In other words, you
didn't have to do any counting yourself.

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Mark Dalgarno  
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 More options Sep 24 2002, 8:39 am
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From: Mark Dalgarno <Mark_Dalga...@scientia.com>
Date: 24 Sep 2002 13:22:18 +0100
Local: Tues, Sep 24 2002 8:22 am
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment

Barry Watson <Barry.Wat...@uab.ericsson.se> writes:
> I found a break down of "The Symbolics-Lisp Environment" here

> http://kogs-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~moeller/symbolics-info/sym...

> maybe 10,000 isn't that unreasonable looking at what it contained.

This document notes that "Over a half-million lines of code are
provided with the basic system. Much of this code is available in the
form of sources. This includes over 10,000 compiled functions to which
users have full access."

IIRC the hardcopy system index was about 2 inches thick at Genera 7.

Mark


 
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Carl Shapiro  
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 More options Sep 24 2002, 10:35 am
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From: Carl Shapiro <cshapiro+s...@panix.com>
Date: 24 Sep 2002 10:35:43 -0400
Local: Tues, Sep 24 2002 10:35 am
Subject: Re: ZetaLisp top level environment

Mark Dalgarno <Mark_Dalga...@scientia.com> writes:
> IIRC the hardcopy system index was about 2 inches thick at Genera 7.

Very close... it is almost exactly 1.5 inches thick.

 
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