I guess it's a communication problem. When you ask serious questions with bad grammar and spelling most people will think you're trolling. Not only that, but most of your questions already have been answered and discussed quite often and those discussions more often than not turn into flame wars, which also leads to the conclusion, that you are trolling. If you wanna avoid being perceived as a troll, you should avoid high octane flame war fuel.
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Antsan wrote: > I guess it's a communication problem. When you ask serious questions with bad grammar and spelling most people will think you're trolling. Not only that, but most of your questions already have been answered and discussed quite often and those discussions more often than not turn into flame wars, which also leads to the conclusion, that you are trolling. If you wanna avoid being perceived as a troll, you should avoid high octane flame war fuel.
You are absolutely right. In addition many participants are lacking manners. They consider newsgroups and chatrooms kind of unlegislated area. That's comparable to the well known behaviour regarding road traffic. On the other hand one information of value might be worth ten postings of crap.
Michael Moeller <m...@t-online.de> writes: > On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Antsan wrote:
>> I guess it's a communication problem. When you ask serious questions with bad grammar and spelling most people will think you're trolling. Not only that, but most of your questions already have been answered and discussed quite often and those discussions more often than not turn into flame wars, which also leads to the conclusion, that you are trolling. If you wanna avoid being perceived as a troll, you should avoid high octane flame war fuel.
> You are absolutely right. > In addition many participants are lacking manners. > They consider newsgroups and chatrooms kind of > unlegislated area. That's comparable to the well > known behaviour regarding road traffic. > On the other hand one information of value might be > worth ten postings of crap.
Newgroups and chatrooms *are* generally unlegislated (or unmoderated). If comp.lang.lisp had been moderated, there would not be any of the harsh responses to Gavino's postings, for the simple reason that Gavino's postings wouldn't have been allowed through. This posting would not have been allowed through, either - but then, it would not have been necessary.
Antsan <thomas.bartsc...@googlemail.com> writes: > I guess it's a communication problem.
It isn't. He asks same questions year after year and it lasts five years at the very least. I'm sure that five years is enough to do a web search, run some experiments and to come to conclusions. The guy is unable to get it. Instead he persists in coming to various communities asking the same questions as he did five years ago at least.
Besides, please, before answering to gavino or other similar trolls, do some research yourself first. You will find that his troll title is well deserved in such diverse communities as those around Common Lisp, Forth, NetBSD, Scheme, TCL (he even tried Standard ML, which is surprising since he doesn't seem to have attitude to math).
> On 2011-08-21 13:42:32 +0100, Michael Moeller said:
>> In addition many participants are lacking manners. >> They consider newsgroups and chatrooms kind of >> unlegislated area.
> Welome to usenet.
It's regrettable anyway. Interestingly enough, there are other unmoderated newsgroups where rarely are trolls or any crap. Seems this depends on the topic. Programmers frequently discuss this silly stuff which language is best. I never came across this regarding hardware for example.
>>> I guess it's a communication problem. When you ask serious questions with bad grammar and spelling most people will think you're trolling. Not only that, but most of your questions already have been answered and discussed quite often and those discussions more often than not turn into flame wars, which also leads to the conclusion, that you are trolling. If you wanna avoid being perceived as a troll, you should avoid high octane flame war fuel.
>> You are absolutely right. >> In addition many participants are lacking manners. >> They consider newsgroups and chatrooms kind of >> unlegislated area. That's comparable to the well >> known behaviour regarding road traffic. >> On the other hand one information of value might be >> worth ten postings of crap.
> Newgroups and chatrooms *are* generally unlegislated (or > unmoderated). If comp.lang.lisp had been moderated, there would not be > any of the harsh responses to Gavino's postings, for the simple reason > that Gavino's postings wouldn't have been allowed through. This posting > would not have been allowed through, either - but then, it would not > have been necessary.
I don't know about single participants in general. I'm using newsgroups very infrequently. In my point of view what makes the big difference is if one is polite or not.
> It's regrettable anyway. > Interestingly enough, there are other unmoderated > newsgroups where rarely are trolls or any crap. Seems > this depends on the topic. Programmers frequently > discuss this silly stuff which language is best. > I never came across this regarding hardware for example.
I take it you weren't around for the Amiga vs. Atari ST wars, then?
> On 22/08/2011 8:50 AM, Michael Moeller wrote: >> It's regrettable anyway. >> Interestingly enough, there are other unmoderated >> newsgroups where rarely are trolls or any crap. Seems >> this depends on the topic. Programmers frequently >> discuss this silly stuff which language is best. >> I never came across this regarding hardware for example.
> I take it you weren't around for the Amiga vs. Atari ST wars, then?
Thats right. I once heard of this, but never looked into the matter then. From a mainframe terminal they appeared like mere toys.
> Am 08/22/2011 08:08 PM, schrieb kensi: >> On 22/08/2011 8:50 AM, Michael Moeller wrote: >>> It's regrettable anyway. >>> Interestingly enough, there are other unmoderated >>> newsgroups where rarely are trolls or any crap. Seems >>> this depends on the topic. Programmers frequently >>> discuss this silly stuff which language is best. >>> I never came across this regarding hardware for example.
>> I take it you weren't around for the Amiga vs. Atari ST wars, then? > Thats right. I once heard of this, but never looked into the > matter then. From a mainframe terminal they appeared like mere toys.
Perhaps ... but who's laughing now? Phones now have the power that supercomputers did then, while mainframes are still just mainframes.
I can't think of 1 website using a scheme dynamic web server that I use with possible exception of www.hipmonk.com or perhaps orbitz.com. I forget if priceline.com uses lisp.
