Cheers,

[snipped insulting and totally idiotic comparison]

  Yup, take sides, post some unfair accusation like that, and you hope
  you contribute to something?  How amazingly brilliant!  Good stuff!
  Sure, I'll listen to someone who can't even keep himself clean.  Must
  be a man _full_ of sound advice, indeed.

| Please stop doing this in your messages.
| Please discuss lisp.
| Stop these foolish and rude outbursts.

  You failed to avoid rudeness yourself.  You took sides and you felt it
  was appropriate to take part in the mud-slinging.  That should tell
  you something _very_ important.

  You had _one_ opportunity not to start what you have started, and did
  not choose to use it.  I'm actually interested in learning why you did
  not seize that opportunity to avoid involving yourself.  It is of
  course off-topic, but please ask your mentor Marcus G. Daniels to stop
  his incessant posting about me, and the rest of you will follow.  I
  have asked him to stop a good number of times, but it doesn't help.
  Maybe he will only listen to his fans.  I know _I'm_ more symptathetic
  to people who manage not to jump out of the closet to attack me when
  they have something to tell me, so maybe he will listen to you as you
  are already of his kind and on his side?  Please try, will you?

  Sure, complete with a speaking dog turd that follows people around and
  tries to make other people stink like hell, too.

  But it really is quite amazing how you react.  I couldn't invent a
  better image than what you provided all on your own, free of charge.

| If I wanted to vanquish intelligence, there would be dozens of targets
| in comp.lang.lisp, and you wouldn't be my first choice.

  *laugh*  Is that really the best your little turd brain can do?  HAHA!

  I _am_ your first choice, you pathetic little shit!  I'm obviously all
  you've got.  You are absolutely nothing without me to attack, and you
  do _nothing_ else, here.  I'm your raison d'etre.  Without me to post
  about, you would vanish like a dog's fart.  You already give me so
  much credit for being the next strongest force in this newsgroup that
  I think you should realize that the only reason you're the number one
  force, of the evil and destructive kind in your case, is that you have
  me to work so hard to put down.  But you're the winner, bar none, in
  the contest of being the worst asshole to post to comp.lang.lisp in
  its entire existence.  The reason: I scare idiots off; you make them
  come here and join your vendetta against me.

| I do admit, however, that my contempt for your abusive behavior is
| virtually bottomless.

  I know, it is from lowest rungs of hell that you keep posting, too.  I
  sincerely hope that is where you _stay_ when you make this planet a
  better place, because you certainly will never understand what an evil
  creep you are while you are alive.  I really hope you terrorize some
  people in your surroundings, too, so somebody will off you soon and
  send you _home_.  Let me know who, and I'll send them flowers.  Hell,
  why not set up a Marcus G. Daniels' Memorial Fund for scholarships to
  computer science students who want to learn Common Lisp and have the
  money sit in escrow pending your notarized death certificate.  I need
  to place almost USD 15K in some charity before the end of the year for
  tax reasons, anyway, so maybe encouraging someone to get rid of you
  and learn Common Lisp at the same time would be a great combo package!

  You don't really have contempt for my "abusive behavior", though.  You
  need it to keep your moral upper hand and to keep posting your shit so
  your little fan club can have somebody they can feel better than.  For
  what would a Marcus G. Daniels do without me to feel contempt for?
  Oh, I do notice that you carefully craft your wording to be contempt
  for my _behavior_, now, instead of repeating that braindamaged honesty
  to say you disrespect _me_, but you need to contradict it, you see, to
  make a difference.

  You deserve _everything_ you get from me, and twice that.  Of course
  you realize that as you have taken it upon you to keep posting shit
  about me, attacking out of the blue, you _gave_ me the right to deal
  with you exactly as I please.  If you don't like it, well, _doh_, you
  can just quit your attacking out of the blue.  I'm nice and respectful
  to you compared to what you do me.  In fact, I still respect _you_ as
  a human being enough to hope that you will some day realize what you
  have done, up to and including understanding just how much you told me
  and the rest of the world about yourself with your reaction to the
  park metaphor.  _You_ have crossed every line I have _left_ to cross
  when it comes to you, but I do not consider evil and stupidity as
  _important_ enough to remember, so if you come to and start to behave
  like a human being, I won't hold your past against you.  There are
  lots of people out there who have been really mean to me after having
  been worked up to a frenzy by a disrespectful dickhead like you, hey,
  it probably was you!, who know that I do accept an apology and an
  about-face.  (Provided they don't keep it up, of course.)  Even an
  evil son of a bitch like you could quit what you do and see that I no
  longer think of you, say anything about you, or hold you responsible
  for the people you have attracted and encouraged here up until now.

  It's up to you to start to behave if you don't want more "abuse", or
  as I prefer to call it: Due response to evil.  I think this is fair.
  Your mode of thinking is one of life-long disrespect and revenge and
  hatred, but even such a insanely demented anti-justice attitude can be
  altered by the person holding it.  Try it.  You'll be surprised.
  Hell, you'll surprise _everyone_ if you suddenly stop your evil.

  Until then, of course, you're just a contempt-filled douchebag who
  must accept what comes to you as long as you keep up your hostility.
  That's life for a Marcus G. Daniels.  And you must _like_ it since you
  don't do anything else or anything about it, right?

  Please stop doing this in your messages.
  Please discuss lisp.
  Stop these foolish and rude outbursts.

  Do the above three lines sound anything familiar to you?

  _Why_ do you choose to do what you do?

  What are _you_ like in real life?  Do you attack people on the street
  because you have read ugly things about them in the newspaper?  I can
  assume you are that kind of person, because you just gave me the right
  to assume such things about you.  Do you understand this?  Or does
  somebody else have to tell you to behave because you look first and
  foremost on _who_ says something before you listen to them?  Does that
  mean, say, that you attack only black people on the street if you read
  ugly things about them?  Or does it mean that you regret what you did
  and would like to apologize for going completely overboard?  Again,
  you have a choice.  I suggest you take it and start to _think_ about
  what you are doing here and why you acted the way you do.

  And we welcome Bruno Haible to the show!  Please feel free to chip in
  with your special contributions any time you like, old friend.

  You already have, and it's the statue you are attacking, not me.

For what's its worth, I'll get out of the way.  I've said what I had to say.

  You have been invited to try something other than disrespect about a
  100 times.  You never have.  I don't know what the conclusion should
  be, but I'm not going to change my mind about you until you change
  your behavior towards me.  You refuse to do that.  I refuse to think
  of you as anything but a criminally insane, thoroughly evil piece of
  human refuse in _response_ to your chosen actions and approach towards
  me.  You get what you deserve, only I have been _charitable_ to one
  who has spent so much time and effort attacking me as you have and so
  much effort instigating hostility towards me from this newsgroup's
  more despicable readership.  You have said what you "had" to say, now
  that your disciples have become numerous enough that you can leave.
  You're a miserable coward, too.  If you took responsibility for what
  you have done, you would wish you could undo it, but you shall be
  denied that, no apology will be accepted unless you follow it up with
  actions that contradict your past behavior and what you have done
  shall be remembered until you choose to repent from your evil ways.

  I strongly doubt that you will actually shut up and go away until you
  get a bullet through your head, which I strongly encourage anyone in
  your vicinity see to it that you receive as soon as possible.  Such is
  the damage you have done that your death seems little reprieve as long
  as you do not realize what you have done.  But you _have_ reached me,
  actually.  I have not felt hatred for anyone since the feeling scared
  me as a child, despite an unspeakable amount of evil from a very small
  number of people just like you over the years.  You have managed to do
  so fucking much to hurt me that I have the deepest hatred for you I
  shall probably ever feel towards any still or once living human.  You
  are probably exceedingly proud of that, so: CONGRATULATIONS!

  Now, go rot in Hell, Marcus G. Daniels, and take your fucking fan club
  with you.  There shall no forgiveness for what you have done to me.
  You are and will remain a thoroughly, completely evil human being with
  no shred of good in the entirety of your soul.  May Your God Damn You.

  I doubt, in return, that this or anything else I have said has reached
  you.  I would have hoped you had people around you who could tell you
  what you have done and why _your_ destructiveness has bred feelings of
  hostility and animosity that no horror story author could invent,
  but now I hope there are nobody around you at all, because the mere
  presence of your evil would surely destroy any unsuspecting goodness.
  If anyone should still be around you, I hope they make sure to cremate
  you so your blood and flesh and bones shall nourish nothing but flames.

Maybe some people should just reread some of Erik's postings before
hitting the follow-up button right away after spotting a politically
incorrect word or sentence.

I have not seen him speak ill of anyone without significant provocation.

Further, I have decided to methodically kill-file people who insult or
attack him. So I won't be reading any more of your posts except the
portions that Erik Naggum or others include in their posts.

(I promised myself I would not respond, but this I couldn't pass up)

  Wow, I'm good company?  Hey, that's the nicest thing one of you guys
  have said about me in a _long_ time.  Thank you!

"israel raj thomas" <isra...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:b8td3t0hek5bul860qj9j2gjqkm2cmm35l@4ax.com...

Don't you think this has gone far enough?  It just as polluting as what you
are attacking (and it is no longer "what" it is "who").

Please stop.

Only similary deluded people would conclude that my pointing out that such
behavior as yours drives new posters from this newsgroup constitutes
"abuse." Nor is it a "personal attack" when I, or others, point out the
very real harm you do.

Simply put, your tone doesn't promote truth, though you may believe it
does. It simply diminishes the usefullness of this newsgroup to many
others, by preventing them from ever posting.

--
Glauber Ribeiro
theglau...@my-deja.com    http://www.myvehiclehistoryreport.com
"Opinions stated are my own and not representative of Experian"

  Why on earth are you so _incredibly_ obsessing about that?  What do
  you want?  As far as you go ranting and raving, there's even less
  likelihood that you will ever stop ranting and raving no matter what
  _anyone_ does, and you have certainly never said anything at all that
  could be interpreted as opening for any action that _would_ appease
  you.  You may not have noticed it, but I do that _all_ the time, and
  you people who keep attacking me _never_ do it.  Even when you are
  asked point-blank, you don't actually give answers that can be used
  for anything at all.  This is very, very indicative of how you think
  and why there is no _point_ in even trying to listen to what you keep
  ranting and raving about.  Please understand this and do something
  differently that might actually convey a desire to _stop_ your insane,
  obsessive hostility.  Unless, of course, you don't desire that at all,
  which is what everybody but you hostility freaks already suspect.

| Nor is it a "personal attack" when I, or others, point out the very
| real harm you do.

  No, of course not.  Your halo protects you from all criticism.

| Simply put, your tone doesn't promote truth, though you may believe it
| does.

  I'll take that as sound advice from someone who really knows.

| It simply diminishes the usefullness of this newsgroup to many others,
| by preventing them from ever posting.

  When you realize that this applies to you even more than it does to
  me, you _may_ have something worthwhile to tell me, because then you
  will already have changed _your_ ways in order to achieve some goals
  that do not consist purely of destruction, as is evident now.  People
  who only seek to destroy must be ignored, lest they succeed, like
  Marcus G. Daniels, who made it very, very hard for himself to be
  ignored, very different from your most recent fan club members.