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M. Strobel
Jan 4, 2012, 6:31:15 PM1/4/12
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why is define function defun?
This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
/Str
This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
/Str
Barry Margolin
Jan 4, 2012, 7:46:09 PM1/4/12
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In article <9mk5q3...@mid.uni-berlin.de>,
important to keep symbol names short. On the PDP-6 and PDP-10 machines
that MACLISP was developed on, five 7-bit characters could fit in the
36-bit word, so lots of its built-in functions and variables had
5-letter names to keep from wasting a second word.
>
> This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
DEF doesn't sound like DEAD to me. It sounds more like DEAF. Anyway,
you get used to it.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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"M. Strobel" <sorry_no_...@nowhere.dee> wrote:
> why is define function defun?
In early versions of Lisp, on machines with very little memory, it was
> why is define function defun?
important to keep symbol names short. On the PDP-6 and PDP-10 machines
that MACLISP was developed on, five 7-bit characters could fit in the
36-bit word, so lots of its built-in functions and variables had
5-letter names to keep from wasting a second word.
>
> This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
you get used to it.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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Kaz Kylheku
Jan 4, 2012, 8:15:07 PM1/4/12
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On 2012-01-05, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <9mk5q3...@mid.uni-berlin.de>,
> "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_...@nowhere.dee> wrote:
>> This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
>
> DEF doesn't sound like DEAD to me. It sounds more like DEAF. Anyway,
> you get used to it.
He may be confusing it with "defunct".
> In article <9mk5q3...@mid.uni-berlin.de>,
> "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_...@nowhere.dee> wrote:
>> This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
>
> DEF doesn't sound like DEAD to me. It sounds more like DEAF. Anyway,
> you get used to it.
Pascal J. Bourguignon
Jan 5, 2012, 3:36:09 AM1/5/12
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Just read it as DE FUN, Define Fun.
In a lot of lisps, DE was used to define functions.
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.
M. Strobel
Jan 5, 2012, 5:31:25 AM1/5/12
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memory as has been pointed out.
And la defunción in spanish.
/Str.
Antsan
Jan 5, 2012, 10:55:10 AM1/5/12
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I thought he might think of it as de-(the same prefix as in "decontaminate")fun.
Tim Bradshaw
Jan 5, 2012, 12:46:50 PM1/5/12
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On 2012-01-05 15:55:10 +0000, Antsan said:
> I thought he might think of it as de-(the same prefix as in
> "decontaminate")fun.
We all know that programming in Lisp is not fun. I guess this is
> I thought he might think of it as de-(the same prefix as in
> "decontaminate")fun.
better than Scheme where it's not even fine.
Antsan
Jan 6, 2012, 5:58:36 AM1/6/12
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Jussi Piitulainen
Jan 6, 2012, 6:39:58 AM1/6/12
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Programming in Python is not f. Whatever that might be.
Tim Bradshaw
Jan 6, 2012, 6:47:39 AM1/6/12
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On 2012-01-06 10:58:36 +0000, Antsan said:
> Did I sound hostile? I didn't mean to.
No. Was a joke, or meant to be.
> Did I sound hostile? I didn't mean to.
Marco Antoniotti
Jan 8, 2012, 8:38:06 AM1/8/12
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On Thursday, January 5, 2012 1:46:09 AM UTC+1, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <9mk5q3...@mid.uni-berlin.de>,
> "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_...@nowhere.dee> wrote:
>
> > why is define function defun?
>
> In early versions of Lisp, on machines with very little memory, it was
> important to keep symbol names short. On the PDP-6 and PDP-10 machines
> that MACLISP was developed on, five 7-bit characters could fit in the
> 36-bit word, so lots of its built-in functions and variables had
> 5-letter names to keep from wasting a second word.
>
> >
> > This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
>
> DEF doesn't sound like DEAD to me. It sounds more like DEAF. Anyway,
> you get used to it.
Or you can use the DEFINER extension :) (Shameless plug) :)
> In article <9mk5q3...@mid.uni-berlin.de>,
> "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_...@nowhere.dee> wrote:
>
> > why is define function defun?
>
> In early versions of Lisp, on machines with very little memory, it was
> important to keep symbol names short. On the PDP-6 and PDP-10 machines
> that MACLISP was developed on, five 7-bit characters could fit in the
> 36-bit word, so lots of its built-in functions and variables had
> 5-letter names to keep from wasting a second word.
>
> >
> > This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
>
> DEF doesn't sound like DEAD to me. It sounds more like DEAF. Anyway,
> you get used to it.
MA
Curt
Jan 9, 2012, 12:41:41 PM1/9/12
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On 2012-01-05, Pascal J. Bourguignon <p...@informatimago.com> wrote:
>
> defunct(en) = défun(fr).
>
défunt avec un t (muet)
Which reminds me of this poem by e e:
Buffalo Bill's
defunct
who used to
ride a watersmooth-silver
stallion
and break onetwothreefourfive pigeonsjustlikethat
Jesus
he was a handsome man
and what i want to know is
how do you like your blueeyed boy
Mister Death
>
> defunct(en) = défun(fr).
>
défunt avec un t (muet)
Which reminds me of this poem by e e:
Buffalo Bill's
defunct
who used to
ride a watersmooth-silver
stallion
and break onetwothreefourfive pigeonsjustlikethat
Jesus
he was a handsome man
and what i want to know is
how do you like your blueeyed boy
Mister Death
kent...@gmail.com
Jan 10, 2012, 9:45:11 AM1/10/12
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On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 6:31:15 PM UTC-5, M. Strobel wrote:
> why is define function defun?
Any place you see define- it is just a delightful remnant of an ifinitesimal toehold gained by Schemers before being pushed into the sea to be devoured live by sharks.
> why is define function defun?
>
> This sounds much like it died, somebody died, or is dead.
-kt
namekuseijin
Feb 10, 2012, 2:16:01 PM2/10/12
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because it ensures definitely fun threads like this one.
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