c.l.l. archives
john
While finding the discussions in c.l.l very (at least for a lisp
newbie like me) valuable, I have no permanent access to the internet,
so I would like to download the postings for the last couple of years,
so I can browse and search for answers even when my computer is not
online. (By the way until now I hadn't the need to use Usenet, so my
question will appear to a lot of people trivial - I just don't know
where to search for).
So I tried to download the messages of the c.l.l from the news server
of my ISP (news.datazug.ch) but I can download only the messages since
04/23/2002. In Google I see messages from at least 10 years. I've also
found donwloadable archives of the c.l.l until 1997. I don't know if
the fact that I can't download messages from more than a couple of
months is because of my ISP, but I would be happy if someone can
point me to a place (also commersion news archive sites) and to a
method where I can download the messages for the last couple of years.
With best regards
Barry Margolin
john <soft...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>So I tried to download the messages of the c.l.l from the news server
>of my ISP (news.datazug.ch) but I can download only the messages since
>04/23/2002. In Google I see messages from at least 10 years. I've also
>found donwloadable archives of the c.l.l until 1997. I don't know if
>the fact that I can't download messages from more than a couple of
>months is because of my ISP
8 months of retention on an ISP's server is HIGH. Most ISPs only keep
messages for a few weeks, and some only for a few days.
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Erik Naggum
| So I tried to download the messages of the c.l.l from the news server
| of my ISP (news.datazug.ch) but I can download only the messages since
| 04/23/2002.
As Barry says, this is actually very good.
| In Google I see messages from at least 10 years.
Many people who kept archives of newsgroups just quit wasting time on it
when Dejanews and then Google took over that function. I am not quite
sure how much money they are making and how they plan to say alive, so
there is some danger in all that information getting lost. For instance,
I used to archive comp.text.sgml when I still thought that SGML was a
good idea and helped people with it, but that turned out not to be an
effort that people were willing to pay for, but it was time-consuming and
cost me money, so I quit doing it.
I would suggest getting a permanent Internet connection...
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Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway
Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder.
Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.
Thomas F. Burdick
> * soft...@yahoo.com (john)
> | So I tried to download the messages of the c.l.l from the news server
> | of my ISP (news.datazug.ch) but I can download only the messages since
> | 04/23/2002.
>
> As Barry says, this is actually very good.
>
> | In Google I see messages from at least 10 years.
>
> Many people who kept archives of newsgroups just quit wasting time on it
> when Dejanews and then Google took over that function. I am not quite
> sure how much money they are making and how they plan to say alive, so
> there is some danger in all that information getting lost. For instance,
> I used to archive comp.text.sgml when I still thought that SGML was a
> good idea and helped people with it, but that turned out not to be an
> effort that people were willing to pay for, but it was time-consuming and
> cost me money, so I quit doing it.
>
> I would suggest getting a permanent Internet connection...
If it's practical, that's probably a good idea. However, for laptop
users, this isn't the most useful advice :). You could also write
yourself a little script to grab them from Google's archive.
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