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Kenneth Tilton  
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 More options May 31 2010, 12:11 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript, comp.lang.lisp
From: Kenneth Tilton <kentil...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 12:11:05 -0400
Local: Mon, May 31 2010 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: ANNC: qooxlisp 0.1: Driving Miss qooxdoo (from Common Lisp)
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David Mark wrote:
> On May 30, 11:06 pm, Kenny <kentil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> David Mark wrote:
>>> On May 30, 3:35 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> David Mark wrote:
>>>>> On May 30, 1:49 pm, Kenneth Tilton <kentil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> qooxdoo + Common Lisp (+ Cells, a common lisp dataflow hack):
>>>>>>    http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/
>>>>> Qooxdoo + anything < 0; // true
>>>> Dave! Whassup?!
>>> Oh, that's right.  It's "Kenny" from a ways back.  I should have made
>>> the connection as AFAIK you were/are the only person on earth using
>>> Qooxdoo.
>>>> I considered building a framework atop your stuff to make for much
>>>> lighter initial loads but needed a quick win.
>>> Or perhaps the fleeting illusion of such?  We went over this ad
>>> nauseam.  Qooxdoo is a bloated, outdated, over-engineered pile of
>>> browser sniffing crap-ola (see also Dojo).
>>>> (and qooxdoo rocks for RIAs).
>>> Sucks, Kenny.  Sucks for RIA's.  Perhaps there was a breakdown in
>>> communication?
>> I think it was a breakdown in parallel universes. In mine qooxdoo works
>> brilliantly.

> Based on what evidence?  I'm guessing you tried it in a handful of
> browsers you had handy and figured if it appeared to work in those, it
> must be "brilliant".  Did it ever occur to you that the authors of
> qooxdoo tried the same browsers before you and inserted lots of hacks
> and sniffs to make them appear to work?  What do you think will happen
> in anything older, newer or unknown to the authors?

I'll lose 0.01% of my market for a week until the ten full-time
engineers paid to work on qooxdoo patch it?

>>>> Maybe for my next effort, if you 'll do an LGPL license for it.
>>> Last I checked it had an MIT license.  That was the consensus choice.
>>> I have no idea how that differs from an LGPL license and don't care to
>>> find out.  Use it or don't.
>> Oh, great, I do MIT, too. Last /I/ checked your stuff was licensed "ask me".

> Yeah, and lots did.  Most of those got a free license.  People who
> didn't ask got nothing.  Go figure.  :)

Oh, you just wanted to have us come grovelling to your door hat in hand?
Great!

>> Well, see if you like this:

>> http://wiki.github.com/kennytilton/qooxlisp/the-cells-insidetm-qooxlisp

> What about it?

Wow, you learned nothing, eh? That is the price of knowing everything, I
guess. But at least you know everything.

>> We could do the same with raw HTML/js

> Raw HTML?

Keep up the good fight! Still programming in assembly language?

:)

kt

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