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Crockford's JavaScript, The Good Parts (a book review).
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Subject: Re: Crockford's JavaScript, The Good Parts (a book review).
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:41:21 -0700 (PDT)
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On Aug 18, 4:26=A0pm, Joost Diepenmaat <jo...@zeekat.nl> wrote:
> lorlarz <lorl...@gmail.com> writes:
> > Crockford's JavaScript, The Good Parts (a book review).
> > This shall perhaps be the world's shortest book review (for one of the
> > world's
> > shortests books).
>
> > I like Douglas Crockford (because I am a crabby old man too; plus he
> > _is_
> > smart and good).. But, how can he write a book on the good parts of
> > JavaScript
> > and not mention functions that address CSS & DOM? =A0Weird. =A0It's lik=
e
> > how to play
> > with things but not address the real things JS is made to play with.
> > With what
> > Crockford talks about we don't have enough to actually =A0_use_
> > javascript on the
> > web (i.e on the Internet in a browser).
>
> > Is this a weakness? =A0Yes. =A0Damned right. =A0CSS may not be fully
> > implemented
> > and the DOM is not fully standardized across browsers, but NONE of
> > this is
> > an insurmountable problem _and_ it **_IS_** what JavaScript is all
> > about.
>
> Good that your post reminded me to get the book. Anyway, Crockford as
> far as I can tell, is fed up with the shoddy way people actualy *code*
> in javascript/ecmascript, and has set out to write a book to teach
> coders how to make effective use of the *language*.
>
> The language itself does NOT include any CSS, DOM, BOM or whatever,
> and there is at least one fairly popular implementation that doesn't
> address CSS etc at all. See: actionscript.
>
> Things are not as bad as back in the 90s, but in the whole DOM/CSS/BOM
> bag there is still an unreasonably large lump of compatibility crap to
> deal with, and putting all that into a book about "good coding
> practices" would dilute the good bits probably to the point of making
> them footnotes.
>
> --
> Joost Diepenmaat | blog:http://joost.zeekat.nl/| work:http://zeekat.nl/- =
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Hey. You really are being ridiculous. The many many JavaScript
functions
for addressing and altering the DOM and addressing an altering CSS
are
_javascript_ functions. AND, they are what allow much of the
communication
that is JavaScript in action. Examples:
GetElementById(string which is element id);
createElement(string which is element type);
[element to appendTo].appendChild(variable representing new element);
document.getElementById(elementName).value =3D variable or string;
document.getElementById(elementName)style.display =3D "none";
document.getElementById(elementName).innerHTML =3D "hi";
Without such stuff there is NO javascript program that actually does
anything
in the browsers. NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT SUCH FUNCTIONS, unless you
are
happy with alerts. Really. Get real.
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