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jmrw
Oct 25, 2012, 7:15:38 AM10/25/12
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As you can see the chess applet from the firm Chessbase works correctly only
with Internet Explorer.
http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Keres/base.htm
It was created long ago when IE was the dominant browser.
I am going and try to make it works with Firefox.
The most important thing is to make the scrolling of the moves ok.
For the figurines apprar instead of the letter it is less important.
For the sounds I know how to do it.
Pretty difficult I think.
Could you give me advices on how to begin this task?
Thanks
jmrw
with Internet Explorer.
http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Keres/base.htm
It was created long ago when IE was the dominant browser.
I am going and try to make it works with Firefox.
The most important thing is to make the scrolling of the moves ok.
For the figurines apprar instead of the letter it is less important.
For the sounds I know how to do it.
Pretty difficult I think.
Could you give me advices on how to begin this task?
Thanks
jmrw
Dr....@nyc.rr.com
Oct 25, 2012, 7:33:32 AM10/25/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:15:38 +0200, "jmrw" <jm...@free.fr> wrote in
<50891f50$0$21948$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>... the chess applet from the firm Chessbase ...
<snip>
Posting it is publication.
The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
K.
<50891f50$0$21948$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>... the chess applet from the firm Chessbase ...
<snip>
>Could you give me advices on how to begin this task?
You're modifing some else code -- that you can see it makes it copyright.
Posting it is publication.
The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
K.
jmrw
Oct 25, 2012, 7:43:48 AM10/25/12
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> You're modifing some else code -- that you can see it makes it copyright.
> Posting it is publication.
>
> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
>
I have done modifications years ago and the firm Chessbase did'nt worry
> Posting it is publication.
>
> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
>
about it
The proof is that they wrote this article on their website after these
modifications
http://www.chessbase.com/searchresult.asp
jmrw
Jukka K. Korpela
Oct 25, 2012, 8:34:28 AM10/25/12
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2012-10-25 14:15, jmrw wrote:
> As you can see the chess applet from the firm Chessbase works correctly only
> with Internet Explorer.
What applet? Applets, i.e. Java applications embedded on web pages would
> As you can see the chess applet from the firm Chessbase works correctly only
> with Internet Explorer.
be off-topic here, and besides I don't see any applet on the page you
mentioned.
And you're not saying what is wrong with it. It looks like a fairly
simple page where chess moves can be shown graphically.
> I am going and try to make it works with Firefox.
layout and styling etc. issue, not
> The most important thing is to make the scrolling of the moves ok.
> For the figurines apprar instead of the letter it is less important.
pieces, instead of properly using chess piece characters. And it
probably uses IE-only web font technique (EOT). Nothing to do with
JavaScript, really.
--
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
jmrw
Oct 25, 2012, 9:18:46 AM10/25/12
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> What applet? Applets, i.e. Java applications embedded on web pages would
> be off-topic here, and besides I don't see any applet on the page you
> mentioned.
There are two files of js :
http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Keres/basej0.js
and
http://www.jmrw.com/Chess/Keres/basej0c.js
> And you're not saying what is wrong with it. It looks like a fairly simple
> page where chess moves can be shown graphically.
>> I am going and try to make it works with Firefox.
> It seems to work on Firefox too. Differently, but the differences are
> layout and styling etc. issue, not
>> The most important thing is to make the scrolling of the moves ok.
> First, define "ok". Then design and implement the scrolling.
>
>> For the figurines apprar instead of the letter it is less important.
> The page seems to use font face tricks to make letters look like chess
> pieces, instead of properly using chess piece characters. And it probably
> uses IE-only web font technique (EOT). Nothing to do with JavaScript,
> really.
I agree
>> For the figurines apprar instead of the letter it is less important.
> The page seems to use font face tricks to make letters look like chess
> pieces, instead of properly using chess piece characters. And it probably
> uses IE-only web font technique (EOT). Nothing to do with JavaScript,
> really.
jmrw
SAM
Oct 25, 2012, 9:46:50 AM10/25/12
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Le 25/10/12 15:18, jmrw a �crit :
JM, il faut que tu laisses aussi les r�fs du messager auquel tu r�ponds.
Who was talking to you jmrw ?
>> And you're not saying what is wrong with it. It looks like a fairly simple
>> page where chess moves can be shown graphically.
> Look the difference between the beahviour under IE and Firefox.
Moi, je n'ai pas IE. What (which) behaviour ?
I suppose something sliding, no? (un d�placement visible)
>>> I am going and try to make it works with Firefox.
> > It seems to work on Firefox too. Differently, but the differences are
>> layout and styling etc. issue, not
>
> Look the difference between the beahviour under IE and Firefox.
Le gars te dit que �a n'a pas de r�elle importance, la preuve : �a ne
m'a jamais g�n�
The guy tells you that it does not really matter.
The proof : I was never been embarrassed in Firefiox's mode
>>> The most important thing is to make the scrolling of the moves ok.
>> First, define "ok". Then design and implement the scrolling.
> What do you mean ?
d�finis ce que tu penses �tre OK
et r�alise la glissade de la pi�ce (DW est ton ami)
S'il pouvait il y avoir une petite explosion lors d'une capture (avec
bruit assorti) !
If there could be a small explosion at a capture (with sound attached)!
>>> For the figurines apprar instead of the letter it is less important.
>> The page seems to use font face tricks to make letters look like chess
>> pieces, instead of properly using chess piece characters. And it probably
>> uses IE-only web font technique (EOT). Nothing to do with JavaScript,
>> really.
> I agree
OUF !
--
St�phane Moriaux avec/with iMac-intel
JM, il faut que tu laisses aussi les r�fs du messager auquel tu r�ponds.
Who was talking to you jmrw ?
>> And you're not saying what is wrong with it. It looks like a fairly simple
>> page where chess moves can be shown graphically.
> Look the difference between the beahviour under IE and Firefox.
I suppose something sliding, no? (un d�placement visible)
>>> I am going and try to make it works with Firefox.
> > It seems to work on Firefox too. Differently, but the differences are
>> layout and styling etc. issue, not
>
> Look the difference between the beahviour under IE and Firefox.
m'a jamais g�n�
The guy tells you that it does not really matter.
The proof : I was never been embarrassed in Firefiox's mode
>>> The most important thing is to make the scrolling of the moves ok.
>> First, define "ok". Then design and implement the scrolling.
> What do you mean ?
et r�alise la glissade de la pi�ce (DW est ton ami)
S'il pouvait il y avoir une petite explosion lors d'une capture (avec
bruit assorti) !
If there could be a small explosion at a capture (with sound attached)!
>>> For the figurines apprar instead of the letter it is less important.
>> The page seems to use font face tricks to make letters look like chess
>> pieces, instead of properly using chess piece characters. And it probably
>> uses IE-only web font technique (EOT). Nothing to do with JavaScript,
>> really.
> I agree
--
St�phane Moriaux avec/with iMac-intel
jmrw
Oct 25, 2012, 10:11:47 AM10/25/12
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"SAM" <stephanemor...@wanadoo.fr.invalid> a �crit dans le message
de news: 508942ca$0$21241$ba4a...@reader.news.orange.fr...
> Le 25/10/12 15:18, jmrw a �crit :
>
> JM, il faut que tu laisses aussi les r�fs du messager auquel tu r�ponds.
> Who was talking to you jmrw ?
Ok
>
> JM, il faut que tu laisses aussi les r�fs du messager auquel tu r�ponds.
> Who was talking to you jmrw ?
>>> And you're not saying what is wrong with it. It looks like a fairly
>>> simple
>>> page where chess moves can be shown graphically.
>> Look the difference between the beahviour under IE and Firefox.
>
> Moi, je n'ai pas IE. What (which) behaviour ?
> I suppose something sliding, no? (un d�placement visible)
this move and if necessary teh page scroll.
>>>> I am going and try to make it works with Firefox.
>> > It seems to work on Firefox too. Differently, but the differences are
>>> layout and styling etc. issue, not
>>
>> Look the difference between the beahviour under IE and Firefox.
> Le gars te dit que �a n'a pas de r�elle importance, la preuve : �a ne m'a
> jamais g�n�
> The guy tells you that it does not really matter.
> The proof : I was never been embarrassed in Firefiox's mode
>>>> The most important thing is to make the scrolling of the moves ok.
>>> First, define "ok". Then design and implement the scrolling.
>> What do you mean ?
>
> d�finis ce que tu penses �tre OK
> et r�alise la glissade de la pi�ce (DW est ton ami)
>
> S'il pouvait il y avoir une petite explosion lors d'une capture (avec
> bruit assorti) !
> If there could be a small explosion at a capture (with sound attached)!
jmrw
Dr....@nyc.rr.com
Oct 25, 2012, 11:40:13 AM10/25/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:43:48 +0200, "jmrw" <jm...@free.fr> wrote in
<508925ea$0$16493$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>> You're modifying someone else's code -- that you can see it makes it copyright.
that commented on it could well be ignorant of the copyright issues. And
if it is to their liking then it should go on their site not yours.
It is simple curtesy to ASK permission to post your modification BEFORE the
fact.
>The proof is that they wrote this article on their website after these
>modifications
>http://www.chessbase.com/searchresult.asp
Which of the recent 21 items mentioned there am I suppose to look at.
And that is not proof in any case for the reason I mentioned. It might
also have been an outsider's comment not from the site owners.
<508925ea$0$16493$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>> You're modifying someone else's code -- that you can see it makes it copyright.
>> Posting it is publication.
>>
>> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
>I have done modifications years ago and the firm Chessbase did'nt worry
>about it
So you were rude before. Does that mean you may be rude again? The people
>>
>> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
>I have done modifications years ago and the firm Chessbase did'nt worry
>about it
that commented on it could well be ignorant of the copyright issues. And
if it is to their liking then it should go on their site not yours.
It is simple curtesy to ASK permission to post your modification BEFORE the
fact.
>The proof is that they wrote this article on their website after these
>modifications
>http://www.chessbase.com/searchresult.asp
And that is not proof in any case for the reason I mentioned. It might
also have been an outsider's comment not from the site owners.
jmrw
Oct 25, 2012, 11:45:05 AM10/25/12
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<Dr....@nyc.rr.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
2rmi88t87i227tgmm...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:43:48 +0200, "jmrw" <jm...@free.fr> wrote in
> <508925ea$0$16493$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>
> <508925ea$0$16493$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>
> It is simple curtesy to ASK permission to post your modification BEFORE
> the
> fact.
Ok I'will ASK permission.
> the
> fact.
jmrw
Jukka K. Korpela
Oct 25, 2012, 12:18:44 PM10/25/12
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2012-10-25 18:45, jmrw wrote:
> Ok I'will ASK permission.
As you like, but it would probably be less work and more useful to write
> Ok I'will ASK permission.
the application from scratch, in a browser-independent way.
--
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
Oct 25, 2012, 12:58:13 PM10/25/12
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Dr....@nyc.rr.com wrote:
> "jmrw" <jm...@free.fr> wrote in:
license (or some other permissive license):
>>I have done modifications years ago and the firm Chessbase did'nt worry
>>about it
> So you were rude before. Does that mean you may be rude again? […]
s/rude/in violation of the law/g
PointedEars, IANAL
--
Sometimes, what you learn is wrong. If those wrong ideas are close to the
root of the knowledge tree you build on a particular subject, pruning the
bad branches can sometimes cause the whole tree to collapse.
-- Mike Duffy in cljs, <news:Xns9FB6521286...@94.75.214.39>
> "jmrw" <jm...@free.fr> wrote in:
>>> You're modifying someone else's code -- that you can see it makes it
>>> copyright. Posting it is publication.
>>>
>>> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
That depends on the software license. Assuming it was not a free software
>>> copyright. Posting it is publication.
>>>
>>> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
license (or some other permissive license):
>>I have done modifications years ago and the firm Chessbase did'nt worry
>>about it
s/rude/in violation of the law/g
PointedEars, IANAL
--
Sometimes, what you learn is wrong. If those wrong ideas are close to the
root of the knowledge tree you build on a particular subject, pruning the
bad branches can sometimes cause the whole tree to collapse.
-- Mike Duffy in cljs, <news:Xns9FB6521286...@94.75.214.39>
jmrw
Oct 26, 2012, 5:31:02 AM10/26/12
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> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:43:48 +0200, "jmrw" <jm...@free.fr> wrote in
> <508925ea$0$16493$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>
>>> You're modifying someone else's code -- that you can see it makes it
>>> copyright.
>>> Posting it is publication.
>>>
>>> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
>
I phoned them.
> <508925ea$0$16493$426a...@news.free.fr>:
>
>>> You're modifying someone else's code -- that you can see it makes it
>>> copyright.
>>> Posting it is publication.
>>>
>>> The first step is to get permission from the copyright holder.
>
They told me the improvements I wanted to do have been done in their last
version.
So it was very usefull for me to post this subjet.
thanks
jmrw
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