(OT) Message filtering

Dave Miller

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Jul 25, 2008, 1:04:01 PM7/25/08

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Does anyone know how to filter on the NNTP-Posting-Host header within
the Thunderbird newsreader?

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Joshua Cranmer

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Jul 25, 2008, 1:07:42 PM7/25/08

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Dave Miller wrote:
> Does anyone know how to filter on the NNTP-Posting-Host header within
> the Thunderbird newsreader?

It's not possible in TB 2.0, TB 3.0a1, or TB 3.0a2; with any luck, it
should get into TB nightlies within a week or so.

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Dave Miller

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Jul 25, 2008, 6:57:13 PM7/25/08

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Joshua Cranmer wrote:
> Dave Miller wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to filter on the NNTP-Posting-Host header within
>> the Thunderbird newsreader?
>
> It's not possible in TB 2.0, TB 3.0a1, or TB 3.0a2; with any luck, it
> should get into TB nightlies within a week or so.
>
>

Thanks, Joshua.

RedGrittyBrick

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:37:39 AM8/12/08

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Joshua Cranmer wrote:
> Dave Miller wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to filter on the NNTP-Posting-Host header within
>> the Thunderbird newsreader?
>
> It's not possible in TB 2.0, TB 3.0a1, or TB 3.0a2; with any luck, it
> should get into TB nightlies within a week or so.
>
>

Where can I get a TB nightly?

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RedGrittyBrick

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Aug 12, 2008, 7:25:05 AM8/12/08

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Whilst waiting for TB to acquire decent filtering I am having some
success with NewsProxy (nfilter). I found it surprisingly easy to set
up. I had to exit and restart it after configuring the news server. Stop
and Start buttons seem to reload any changes to filters.

Features I like:
* Simple to set up and use.
* rules to drop posts
* rules to prefix text to "subject" or "sender" headers.
* which TB message filters can then use.
* scoring rules
* e.g. Add 50 to score if NNTP-Posting-Host is *.foo.bar
* Then have rules to drop or mark posts scoring > 150 say.

e.g. "comp.lang.java.* FLAG:FAKE-POSTER supersedes:*"

Version 1.2.4 can be obtained by following the links at
http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html

The filters are edited in a text editor and are explained here
http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html

P.S. Yes I realise lots of other NNTP clients already have these
filtering capabilities. I've tried a few but I like TB's UI too much to
switch (for now).

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Daniele Futtorovic

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Aug 12, 2008, 1:57:48 PM8/12/08

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On 12/08/2008 13:25, RedGrittyBrick allegedly wrote:
> RedGrittyBrick wrote:
>> Joshua Cranmer wrote:
>>> Dave Miller wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know how to filter on the NNTP-Posting-Host header
>>>> within the Thunderbird newsreader?
>>>
>>> It's not possible in TB 2.0, TB 3.0a1, or TB 3.0a2; with any luck, it
>>> should get into TB nightlies within a week or so.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Where can I get a TB nightly?

Presumably here:
<http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/>

> Whilst waiting for TB to acquire decent filtering I am having some
> success with NewsProxy (nfilter). I found it surprisingly easy to set
> up. I had to exit and restart it after configuring the news server. Stop
> and Start buttons seem to reload any changes to filters.
>
> Features I like:
> * Simple to set up and use.
> * rules to drop posts
> * rules to prefix text to "subject" or "sender" headers.
> * which TB message filters can then use.
> * scoring rules
> * e.g. Add 50 to score if NNTP-Posting-Host is *.foo.bar
> * Then have rules to drop or mark posts scoring > 150 say.
>
> e.g. "comp.lang.java.* FLAG:FAKE-POSTER supersedes:*"
>
>
> Version 1.2.4 can be obtained by following the links at
> http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html
>
> The filters are edited in a text editor and are explained here
> http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html

Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll give it a try.

The NNTP part of TB is the poorest one IMO by the way. Unfortunately,
they don't seem to address it at all in their "TB 3 roadmap":
<https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3>

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DF.

RedGrittyBrick

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Aug 12, 2008, 2:56:59 PM8/12/08

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Daniele Futtorovic wrote:
> RedGrittyBrick wrote:

>> RedGrittyBrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Where can I get a TB nightly?
>
> Presumably here:
> <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/>

Thanks.

>> Whilst waiting for TB to acquire decent filtering I am having some
>> success with NewsProxy (nfilter). I found it surprisingly easy to set
>> up. I had to exit and restart it after configuring the news server.
>> Stop and Start buttons seem to reload any changes to filters.
>>
>>

>> Version 1.2.4 can be obtained by following the links at
>> http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html
>>
>> The filters are edited in a text editor and are explained here
>> http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll give it a try.
>
> The NNTP part of TB is the poorest one IMO by the way. Unfortunately,
> they don't seem to address it at all in their "TB 3 roadmap":
> <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Thunderbird3>
>

The ISP I use at home has an NNTP server that doesn't provide full
"overview" headers <http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html#4.1>. So I
registered for motzarella.org's free nntp service (which IIRC you
recommended) - It certainly makes at least one petty nuisance disappear.