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Thorsten Kiefer  
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 More options Mar 11, 1:28 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.3d
From: Thorsten Kiefer <webmas...@nillakaes.de>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:28:35 +0100
Local: Tues, Mar 11 2008 1:28 pm
Subject: 3D in applet
Hi,
is it possible to render 3D graphics in an applet
without demanding to user to install java3d ?
Is it part of the jre now ?

Regards
Thorsten


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Andrew Thompson  
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 More options Mar 13, 2:49 am
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.3d
From: Andrew Thompson <andrewtho...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 13 2008 2:49 am
Subject: Re: 3D in applet
On Mar 12, 4:28 am, Thorsten Kiefer <webmas...@nillakaes.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> is it possible to render 3D graphics in an applet
> without demanding to user to install java3d ?

No.  (At least, not unless you re-implement
the 3D functionality entirely in your applet.)

> Is it part of the jre now ?

No.  An easy way to check is to look in the
J2SE JavaDocs for the J3D package/class names.
They are not listed.

That was the bad news, now some good news.

I saw this post only because I have a Google alert
for /applet/ (I consider it my 'duty' to let people
know the far better alternative).

Although I've had no direct experience with J3D, I
have successfully deployed projects based on JOGL
(another 'extra' API) using *webstart*.  It was
almost impossible to deploy JOGL applets *in a
web page*.

It seems some folks are already deploying Java3D
using webstart.
<http://www.google.com/search?
as_q=java3d&as_sitesearch=&as_filetype=jnlp>

In fact, it appears to be quite *easy* to deploy using
webstart, since the Java3D folks provide the API as a
JNLP extension that can be referenced from your own
(JNLP) launch file.
<http://download.java.net/media/java3d/webstart/release/java3d-1.5-
latest.jnlp>

Link to that from within your launch file, and all the
set-up and caching of Java3D should happen automatically
for the end-user.  Better still, if the J3D folks update
the API, the client gets the update automatically - at no
'expense' to your server.

On related subjects, and coming back to 'I only saw
this because..'.

The J3D group on usenet seems rather quiet, but the
Java3D forum..
<http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=70>
..at the Java3D site..
<https://java3d.dev.java.net/>
..shows more activity.

Perhaps I should also point out that many of the
comp.lang.java.programmers (I often post there, it
is a very active group) could have figured out
what I told you above.

HTH

--
Andrew T.
PhySci.org


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Thorsten Kiefer  
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 More options Mar 13, 5:24 am
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.3d
From: Thorsten Kiefer <webmas...@nillakaes.de>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:24:08 +0100
Local: Thurs, Mar 13 2008 5:24 am
Subject: Re: 3D in applet
Hi,
thank you for your answer.
Next time I will ask in comp.lang.java.programmers.

Best Regards
Thorsten


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Andrew Thompson  
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 More options Mar 13, 5:59 am
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.3d
From: Andrew Thompson <andrewtho...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 13 2008 5:59 am
Subject: Re: 3D in applet
On Mar 13, 8:24 pm, Thorsten Kiefer <webmas...@nillakaes.de> wrote:

(big trim - slight reorganiation of text)

> > ...Perhaps I should also point out that many of the
> > comp.lang.java.programmers ...
> thank you for your answer.

You are welcome.  Could I ask you to 'demonstrate'
your gratitude by posting 'in-line with trimming'
as I am doing, rather than top-posting*?

> Next time I will ask in comp.lang.java.programmers.

Sure, but two things..
1) I got it wrong.  There is no 's' on the end.
Oh - I see you already found the correct group.
Good job.
2) * Most of the people who post to c.l.j.programmer
*intensely* dislike top-posting.   ;-)

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Andrew T.
PhySci.org


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Thorsten Kiefer  
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 More options Mar 13, 1:14 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.3d
From: Thorsten Kiefer <webmas...@nillakaes.de>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:14:23 +0100
Local: Thurs, Mar 13 2008 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: 3D in applet

> Good job.
> 2) * Most of the people who post to c.l.j.programmer
> *intensely* dislike top-posting.   ;-)

OK

-TK


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