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ken.fa...@gmail.com

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Apr 9, 2012, 6:30:20 PM4/9/12
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Folks,

(At least those that don't filter out posts from Google Groups...),

It looks like Google finally cleaned up the spam that has been
flooding c.l.f for the last many, many months. I haven't seen
any spam in the group since March 31. :-) :-)

I'd be interested if anyone reading c.l.f from a source that
doesn't otherwise filter spam (in other words, a source *other*
than eternal-september or individual.net, etc.) has observed
the same clean feed, at least with respect to the spam that's
been the subject of discussion here in the recent past?

Regards, Ken

Kathy Rages

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Apr 9, 2012, 7:33:05 PM4/9/12
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In article <5214410.368.1334010620791.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbu5>,
It appears to be gone from giganews, which was letting it all through
before.

Of course, "/googlegroups/HMessage-ID:j" is going to remain in my killfile
for a while; Google ran up an awful lot of ill will with me, and I'm not
going to start trusting them yet.

--
Kathy Rages

James Van Buskirk

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Apr 9, 2012, 8:23:43 PM4/9/12
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<ken.fa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It looks like Google finally cleaned up the spam that has been
> flooding c.l.f for the last many, many months. I haven't seen
> any spam in the group since March 31. :-) :-)

> I'd be interested if anyone reading c.l.f from a source that
> doesn't otherwise filter spam (in other words, a source *other*
> than eternal-september or individual.net, etc.) has observed
> the same clean feed, at least with respect to the spam that's
> been the subject of discussion here in the recent past?

The spam may be less visible, but I find I am missing some legitimate
messages now.

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Gary Scott

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Apr 9, 2012, 8:25:29 PM4/9/12
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Appears to be gone from Supernews as well. However, I've switched to
E-S (cheaper). I hope the next billing cycle that SN ceases and desists
those charges.

Robert Miles

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Apr 9, 2012, 11:21:58 PM4/9/12
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I've seen very little directly on Google Groups lately, which
means that rather little filtering is needed at any point past
them.

I've seen an increase in other newsgroups, though. To me, that
means that the spammers and spammer bosses have decided not to
need brain transplants as soon, and not that Google Groups has
done much other than make the abuse marking appear to users
sooner.

Robert Miles

Fritz Wuehler

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Apr 10, 2012, 2:41:38 AM4/10/12
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giganews has their own problems. they allow a huge number of binary postings
and spam from their own users to text newsgroups. don't give them too much
credit just if they dont peer with google groups.

Louisa

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Apr 10, 2012, 8:19:04 AM4/10/12
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On Apr 10, 8:30 am, ken.fairfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> It looks like Google finally cleaned up the spam that has been
> flooding c.l.f for the last many, many months.  I haven't seen
> any spam in the group since March 31. :-) :-)
>
> I'd be interested if anyone reading c.l.f from a source that
> doesn't otherwise filter spam (in other words, a source *other*
> than eternal-september or individual.net, etc.) has observed
> the same clean feed, at least with respect to the spam that's
> been the subject of discussion here in the recent past?

Spam continued unabated through March.
There's less of it in April; the most recent spam was this evening.

Dick Hendrickson

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Apr 10, 2012, 11:11:53 AM4/10/12
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I just looked at c.l.f via google groups via my web browser. There were
10 or so spams after April 1 and more than I cared to count before then.
Also, the ones that were there looked different from the ones a few
weeks ago.

Dick Hendrickson

user1

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Apr 10, 2012, 11:44:19 AM4/10/12
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The spammer(s) were probably just temporarily off on spring break ;-)

ken.fa...@gmail.com

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Apr 10, 2012, 12:45:50 PM4/10/12
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On Monday, April 9, 2012 5:23:43 PM UTC-7, James Van Buskirk wrote:
> <Ken Fairfield> wrote in message
> news:5214410.368.1334010620791.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbu5...
>
> > It looks like Google finally cleaned up the spam that has been
> > flooding c.l.f for the last many, many months. I haven't seen
> > any spam in the group since March 31. :-) :-)
>
> > I'd be interested if anyone reading c.l.f from a source that
> > doesn't otherwise filter spam (in other words, a source *other*
> > than eternal-september or individual.net, etc.) has observed
> > the same clean feed, at least with respect to the spam that's
> > been the subject of discussion here in the recent past?
>
> The spam may be less visible, but I find I am missing some legitimate
> messages now.

Do you mean GG is gobbling up some legitimate messages that
were posted via GG, or that somehow they've reached out to
the "greater usenet" and sucked them down? Curious minds
want to know! :-)

-Ken

ken.fa...@gmail.com

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Apr 10, 2012, 12:49:35 PM4/10/12
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On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:19:04 AM UTC-7, Louisa wrote:

> Spam continued unabated through March.
> There's less of it in April; the most recent spam was this evening.

That's pretty much what I tried to say and confirms my
observation.

If I overstated the lack of spam, I apologize: clearly there
are still a *few* spam messages posted since April 1, but I can
probably count them on my two score digits. I call that
a radical improvement. :-)

-Ken

James Van Buskirk

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Apr 10, 2012, 1:08:01 PM4/10/12
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<ken.fa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In one thread I was following, the message:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.fortran/msg/6196354f9abb3633?hl=en

is visible in google's archives and was responded to by another poster
but never seems to have made it to my server.

ken.fa...@gmail.com

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Apr 10, 2012, 1:15:34 PM4/10/12
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On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:08:01 AM UTC-7, James Van Buskirk wrote:
[...]
> In one thread I was following, the message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.fortran/msg/6196354f9abb3633?hl=en
>
> is visible in google's archives and was responded to by another poster
> but never seems to have made it to my server.

Interesting. It looks like Bob is posting via Google Groups. Did
you see his earlier post in that thread in follow-up to the OP?

-Ken

James Van Buskirk

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Apr 10, 2012, 1:35:10 PM4/10/12
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<ken.fa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The thread on my computer and the thread in google groups are the
same except for that single message I am missing but google groups
has.

James Van Buskirk

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Apr 10, 2012, 1:50:15 PM4/10/12
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"James Van Buskirk" <not_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The thread on my computer and the thread in google groups are the
> same except for that single message I am missing but google groups
> has.

Actually no posts from Terence seem to be visible on my computer
since about December 1 of last year. Maybe a killfile entry I
made then is interpreted by Outlook Express to wipe out his
messages. I looked at my killfile and I couldn't find any
reasonable candidates, though.

Qolin

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Apr 16, 2012, 9:36:57 AM4/16/12
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Funnily enough, I too have noticed that I can't see Terence's postings. I
use Windows live mail (the 64-bit progeny of Outlook Express) and I have
looked for killfile entries, without success.

...Does Terence post using GG?

Qolin

Qolin at domain.com
domain is qomputing

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Daniel H

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Apr 16, 2012, 11:06:37 AM4/16/12
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I noticed the same problem with Terence at least 2x.
I am using eternal-september and wouldn't know of any matching killfile
entries.

Daniel

user1

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Apr 16, 2012, 11:33:30 AM4/16/12
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Daniel H wrote:
> I noticed the same problem with Terence at least 2x.
> I am using eternal-september and wouldn't know of any matching killfile
> entries.
>
> Daniel
>

That is interesting. I have setup both both aioe and eternal-september,
and can see Terence's post via aioe, but not via eternal-september. No
filters of my own making in place.


Robert Miles

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Apr 16, 2012, 12:01:34 PM4/16/12
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On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:44:19 AM UTC-5, user1 wrote:
> The spammer(s) were probably just temporarily off on spring break ;-)

Let's hope spring lasts 100 years for them, if they live that long.

Robert Miles

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Apr 16, 2012, 12:11:11 PM4/16/12
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The best I can tell, eternal-september has a number of killfile entries of their own. Applied for the whole server.

Robert Miles

On Monday, April 16, 2012 10:06:37 AM UTC-5, Daniel H wrote:
> I noticed the same problem with Terence at least 2x.
> I am using eternal-september and wouldn't know of any matching killfile
> entries.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 04/16/2012 03:36 PM, Qolin wrote:
> > Funnily enough, I too have noticed that I can't see Terence's postings.
> > I use Windows live mail (the 64-bit progeny of Outlook Express) and I
> > have looked for killfile entries, without success.
> >
> > ...Does Terence post using GG?
> >
> > Qolin
> >
> > Qolin at domain.com
> > domain is qomputing
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> > "James Van Buskirk" wrote in message news:jm1rsi$jeo$1...@dont-email.me...
> >
> > "James Van Buskirk" <not_va...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:jm1r09$e44$1...@dont-email.me...
> >
> >> The thread on my computer and the thread in google groups are the
> >> same except for that single message I am missing but google groups
> >> has.
> >
> > Actually no posts from Terence seem to be visible on my computer
> > since about December 1 of last year. Maybe a killfile entry I
> > made then is interpreted by Outlook Express to wipe out his
> > messages. I looked at my killfile and I couldn't find any
> > reasonable candidates, though.


On Monday, April 16, 2012 10:06:37 AM UTC-5, Daniel H wrote:
> I noticed the same problem with Terence at least 2x.
> I am using eternal-september and wouldn't know of any matching killfile
> entries.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 04/16/2012 03:36 PM, Qolin wrote:
> > Funnily enough, I too have noticed that I can't see Terence's postings.
> > I use Windows live mail (the 64-bit progeny of Outlook Express) and I
> > have looked for killfile entries, without success.
> >
> > ...Does Terence post using GG?
> >
> > Qolin
> >
> > Qolin at domain.com
> > domain is qomputing
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> > "James Van Buskirk" wrote in message news:jm1rsi$jeo$1...@dont-email.me...
> >
> > "James Van Buskirk" <not_va...@comcast.net> wrote in message

Terence

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Apr 16, 2012, 10:45:18 PM4/16/12
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No, Terence DOES post, With Outlook Express Version 5.
And people read it Ok because quite a few write privately afterwards.


Terence

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Apr 16, 2012, 10:49:56 PM4/16/12
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Interesting, FYI,
I post from Australia, and have found that of the 47 servers used by
Australia to communicate worldwide (Telstra monopoly service), at any given
time two or three are on some other country's blacklist. It takes a private
detection to get the Continental Postmaster to be informed and fix things
anew.



user1

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Apr 17, 2012, 6:44:05 AM4/17/12
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Same thing. I see the above post, and the one about Outlook Express,
appearing on aioe, but not eternal-september.

Arjan

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:16:04 PM4/17/12
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I only interact with this forum via groups.google.com. It was
convenient until about 2 years ago the spam overtook. The installation
of a newsreader failed several times and I stopped bothering about
that. Ploughing through the spam I always managed to get to the real
FORTRAN contributions, but it was "an art". I am glad to see that
since some days my regular interaction manner with this group via
groups.google.com shows less than 50% of spam (including this
one ;-) )! Hurray!

Arjan

Qolin

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:30:21 PM4/17/12
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"user1" wrote in message news:jmjhfp$na$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
Same here.

However, I reported the issue to Eternal-september,and included the headers
from one of Terence's postings.

Here is the result:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Wolfgang M. Weyand
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:22 AM
To: Colin Watters
Subject: Re: comp.lang.fortran

Colin Watters wrote:


NNTP-Posting-Host: 121.210.2.110
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Does ES have any "killfile" entries of your own? and is Terence suffering
from their application?


Hi,

ES uses Cleanfeed to filter spam and non-standard (HTML) posts.
The IP address contained in the above posting is currently contained in a
blacklist,
which means it was also used in one of the many spam runs that emanate from
Google
from time to time and target groups like comp.lang.fortran, among others.

I have checked Terence's postings and removed the above IP address from the
blacklist.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Qolin

qolin at domain dot com
domain is qomputing



Terence

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Apr 17, 2012, 6:34:05 PM4/17/12
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THANK YOU Qolin!!
Really don't know how these happen.
My source IP is not my house intranet, but assign randomly to one of the 47
Australian servers on a sesson basis.


Qolin

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Apr 17, 2012, 7:10:55 PM4/17/12
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Hey Terence,

Good to see you once again, at last!

Qolin

Qolin at domain dot com
domain is qomputing


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James Van Buskirk

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Apr 17, 2012, 7:16:03 PM4/17/12
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"Terence" <tbwr...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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Good to be able to see you after > 4 months.
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