Fortran Forum Recommendation
Gary Scott
of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
obsolete as you can get).
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Gary Scott
> Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
> of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
> cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
> of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
> former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
> the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
> better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
> magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
> nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
> (I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
> obsolete as you can get).
>
I guess another point...some of the code snippets are in an atrocious
style with no indention, no line spacing, etc. Recommend a standardized
clean, easier to read style for code snippets.
Ron Ford
> Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
> of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
> cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
> of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
> former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
> the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
> better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
> magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
> nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
> (I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
> obsolete as you can get).
What is the Fortran forum?
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What men value in this world is not rights but privileges. 7
H. L. Mencken
Gary Scott
A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
Ian
I have just picked up this thread.
I'm the current editor. Here is the acm web address
http://portal.acm.org/browse_dl.cfm?coll=portal&dl=ACM&idx=J286&linked=1&part=newsletter
I'll have a chat with the acm over some of the issues raised.
cheers
ian chivers
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Ron Ford
> Ron Ford wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:51 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>>
>>
>>>Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
>>>of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
>>>cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
>>>of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
>>>former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
>>>the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
>>>better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
>>>magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
>>>nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
>>>(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
>>>obsolete as you can get).
>>
>>
>> What is the Fortran forum?
>
> A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
I noticed that clf's Arjen Markus contributes this time. I wish I had I
had the means to buy every fortran tool I wanted, but alas, I was only
middle class before Bush II.
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cerebrums and smaller adrenal glands. 2
H. L. Mencken
Gary Scott
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:19 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>
>
>>Ron Ford wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:51 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
>>>>of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
>>>>cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
>>>>of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
>>>>former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
>>>>the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
>>>>better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
>>>>magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
>>>>nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
>>>>(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
>>>>obsolete as you can get).
>>>
>>>
>>>What is the Fortran forum?
>>
>>A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
>
>
> I noticed that clf's Arjen Markus contributes this time. I wish I had I
> had the means to buy every fortran tool I wanted, but alas, I was only
> middle class before Bush II.
My starting salary was 21600 in 1981. I thought I was rich.
Clive Page
<r...@example.invalid> writes
>I noticed that clf's Arjen Markus contributes this time. I wish I had I
>had the means to buy every fortran tool I wanted, but alas, I was only
>middle class before Bush II.
It's a pity that Fortran Forum remains so inaccessible. I have tried to
subscribe a few times in the past, but always failed (can't remember
what the ACM site objected to, perhaps not having a US-registered
address or US credit card, or maybe that I wasn't already an ACM
member).
I've also tried to read it via the Athens system which allows UK
academics to access a vast number of scientific publications on-line,
but the ACM chooses to not make this one available that way. I have
access to two university libraries (one a copyright library), but
neither of them takes the paper version.
I know that I have contributed to Fortran Forum (because the editor has
been kind enough to send me a copy of my own text) but as far as I'm
concerned, it remains a write-only medium. And I have not yet come
across another Fortran user in my own field who has even heard of the
publication. :-(
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Clive Page
michael...@compuserve.com
> In message <11cunli1pa3vf$....@example.invalid>, Ron Ford
Come on, Clive, you've been moaning about this biennially for years. I
don't live in the US, do not have a US credit card, and am not a
member of the ACM. And I have NO PROBLEM suscribing.
If at first you don't succeed ...
Regards,
Mike Metcalf
AnotherSquid
On Aug 22, 7:34 am, michaelmetc...@compuserve.com wrote:
> Come on, Clive, you've been moaning about this biennially for years. I
> don't live in the US, do not have a US credit card, and am not a
> member of the ACM. And I have NO PROBLEM suscribing.
>
> If at first you don't succeed ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Metcalf
I am the sort of person who usually has all sorts of trouble with
things like this, but I had no trouble registering for the free
reading of Volume 27, Issue 1 (April 2008) issue. I am sure I could
have read other issues if I had wanted to.
And
Terence
My old copies of ACM were almost entirely about Fortran.
I treasure the copy with the "hidden line removal " algorithm
So now they have a separate magazine for this ancient programming
language?
How time flies! But it sounds like "Notes on Linea A".
Clive Page
<70dc9747-1aa3-483e...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
michael...@compuserve.com writes
>Come on, Clive, you've been moaning about this biennially for years. I
>don't live in the US, do not have a US credit card, and am not a
>member of the ACM. And I have NO PROBLEM suscribing.
It may be that if I tried again, I might succeed (I've just managed to
buy tickets on a train in Italy on the trenitalia website only at the
5th attempt, the other 4 having been refused) and maybe just a bit more
persistence is needed. But my other comments still stand: no printed
copies in libraries anywhere that I know of, not available to UK
universities via Athens, etc. It is the very opposite of being
well-known and easily accessible. This is a pity, as it reinforces the
image of Fortran as a niche language, with a dwindling base of users.
I know that the ACM doesn't pay its authors anything, and I suspect that
the editor doesn't get paid much if anything at all, certainly not
enough to compensate for the time it takes to edit. In that case, an
equivalent online publication would have a lot of benefits and the main
disadvantage would be the prestige that the ACM brings to Fortran Forum,
which I suspect isn't all that much.
--
Clive Page
Gary Scott
like it should be much of a burden to nearly anyone with an interest (if
they knew it existed).
Clive Page
<garyl...@sbcglobal.net> writes
>I think the subscription fee is only like $10 us/year. Doesn't seem
>like it should be much of a burden to nearly anyone with an interest
>(if they knew it existed).
Indeed. The cost is small - e.g. a quarter of the cost of the cheapest
membership of the BCS which gets me to UK Fortran Forums etc. It's the
fact that potential subscribers have to jump through hoops, and the
results are a journal that isn't freely available. I know it's how
academic journals used to run, and some are still jealously guarded in
the same way, but the world is changing, fortunately, and a lot more
information can now be freely redistributed. I think minority interests
like Fortran have something to gain from changing the approach. Just my
suggestion...
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Clive Page
David Thompson
> Ron Ford wrote:
> > What is the Fortran forum?
>
> A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
s/of/for/
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Gary Scott
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:19 -0500, Gary Scott
> <garyl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Ron Ford wrote:
>
>
>>>What is the Fortran forum?
>>
>>A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
>
>
> s/of/for/
?
>
> - formerly david.thompson1 || achar(64) || worldnet.att.net
dpb
> David Thompson wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:19 -0500, Gary Scott
>> <garyl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
>>
>> s/of/for/
>
> ?
>
A substitution of "for" for "of"...
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Ian Bush
> David Thompson wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:19 -0500, Gary Scott
> > <garylsc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >>Ron Ford wrote:
>
> >>>What is the Fortran forum?
>
> >>A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
>
> > s/of/for/
>
> ?
>
Substitute the first occurrence of the string "of" with the string
"for" in the line being parsed,
Ian
Gary Scott
ah, in my editor, the "s" would be "c" for "change"...
Gary Scott
You'd think that since I'm a member and get blasted with a half dozen
emails from them every day, I'd get that right.
>
> Ian
Richard Maine
> A substitution of "for" for "of"...
Nice turn of phrase. :-) Accurate too,which makes it even better.
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Gary Scott
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>
> You'd think that since I'm a member and get blasted with a half dozen
> emails from them every day, I'd get that right.
>
>>
>
>
>
There is a very nice magazine from ACM called Communications of the ACM.
Nice, big full color, regular magazine. Sometimes has articles with
code or pseudo code. Semi scholarly (abstract, references, edited to
the hilt)...how about some Fortran articles in there??