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Anton Ertl

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Oct 27, 2006, 9:19:34 AM10/27/06
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Cecil Bayona

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Oct 27, 2006, 9:55:07 AM10/27/06
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Anton Ertl wrote:
> The Proceedings of EuroForth 2006 are available at
>
> http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth2006/papers/
>
> - anton

As someone that is not familiar with EuroForth's Proceedings, how much
pull do they have in affecting the course of the Forth community? Or are
they merely outlets for people to voice their ideas on subjects related
to Forth.

I briefly looked at the adding Lambda Expressions to Forth article, and
to me it looks interesting at first glance.


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Ian Osgood

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Oct 27, 2006, 5:26:58 PM10/27/06
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I'm looking forward to the online publication of the SIGForth
Newsletters!

Ian

Cecil Bayona

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Oct 30, 2006, 8:42:38 AM10/30/06
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Cecil Bayona wrote:
> Anton Ertl wrote:
>> The Proceedings of EuroForth 2006 are available at
>>
>> http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth2006/papers/
>>
>> - anton
>
> As someone that is not familiar with EuroForth's Proceedings, how much
> pull do they have in affecting the course of the Forth community? Or are
> they merely outlets for people to voice their ideas on subjects related
> to Forth.
>
> I briefly looked at the adding Lambda Expressions to Forth article, and
> to me it looks interesting at first glance.
>
>

The lack of interest on the conference speaks volumes and answers my
question.

Alex McDonald

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Oct 30, 2006, 3:54:34 PM10/30/06
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Cecil Bayona wrote:
> Cecil Bayona wrote:
> > Anton Ertl wrote:
> >> The Proceedings of EuroForth 2006 are available at
> >>
> >> http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth2006/papers/
> >>
> >> - anton
> >
> > As someone that is not familiar with EuroForth's Proceedings, how much
> > pull do they have in affecting the course of the Forth community? Or are
> > they merely outlets for people to voice their ideas on subjects related
> > to Forth.
> >
> > I briefly looked at the adding Lambda Expressions to Forth article, and
> > to me it looks interesting at first glance.
> >
> >
>
> The lack of interest on the conference speaks volumes and answers my
> question.
>

Perhaps it was the wrong question.

As an attendee for the first time at the 2006 EuroForth conference, I
found it very interesting and useful. Note that I attended as an
amateur, and not a professional developer of Forth code and systems.

EuroForth doesn't attempt (imho) any more than communicating ideas and
generating discussion on a variety of Forth subjects. Beyond this, and
the positive aspect of meeting others with the same interest, it
doesn't have any "pull" on the Forth community per se; it does not
stand guard for any particular aspect of Forth.

On the other hand, the Forth 200x group, that co-incidentally meets
before EuroForths as a matter of convenience, may have significant
influence on the future development of the ANS Forth standard. But
whether that is important to you or not depends on your interest in
Forth, and the applicability of a standard to what you wish to do.

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Regards
Alex McDonald

Don Seglio

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Oct 30, 2006, 6:32:05 PM10/30/06
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From the papers a lot of good subjects were discussed but I'm mystified
by the apparent lack of interest in the subjects. I guess Forth is a
tool that attracts the kind of programmer that wants their tools to be
just so, and somebody else's way will not do.

Neal Bridges

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Oct 30, 2006, 6:41:12 PM10/30/06
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"Don Seglio" <don.s...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> From the papers a lot of good subjects were discussed but I'm mystified
> by the apparent lack of interest in the subjects. I guess Forth is a
> tool that attracts the kind of programmer that wants their tools to be
> just so, and somebody else's way will not do.

And how exactly are you gauging the level of interest in the subjects of the
EuroForth 2006 papers?

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Neal Bridges
Quartus Handheld Software
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Don Seglio

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Oct 30, 2006, 6:48:08 PM10/30/06
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Neal Bridges wrote:
> "Don Seglio" <don.s...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:VXv1h.1690$wX....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>> From the papers a lot of good subjects were discussed but I'm mystified
>> by the apparent lack of interest in the subjects. I guess Forth is a
>> tool that attracts the kind of programmer that wants their tools to be
>> just so, and somebody else's way will not do.
>
> And how exactly are you gauging the level of interest in the subjects of the
> EuroForth 2006 papers?
>

By the only thing I can see, the lack of comments on the subjects, but
the discussion on sometimes trivial thing get hundreds of comments.

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Neal Bridges

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Oct 30, 2006, 6:57:32 PM10/30/06
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"Don Seglio" <don.s...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Neal Bridges wrote:
> > "Don Seglio" <don.s...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:VXv1h.1690$wX....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> >> From the papers a lot of good subjects were discussed but I'm
mystified
> >> by the apparent lack of interest in the subjects. I guess Forth is a
> >> tool that attracts the kind of programmer that wants their tools to be
> >> just so, and somebody else's way will not do.
> >
> > And how exactly are you gauging the level of interest in the subjects of
the
> > EuroForth 2006 papers?
> >
>
> By the only thing I can see, the lack of comments on the subjects, but
> the discussion on sometimes trivial thing get hundreds of comments.

That's a poor barometer, and an equally poor basis for sweeping
generalizations about all Forth programmers.

Alex McDonald

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Oct 31, 2006, 5:01:25 AM10/31/06
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Your use of two posting nyms is confusing; please stop this practise.

There may or may not be a great deal of interest in the subjects; time
will tell. The papers have just been published online and announced
here no more thank two weeks ago. This (as you or your alter-ego noted)
allowed you to do no more than briefly read the paper on lambda
calculus. If you have a specific interest and some cogent comments, why
not start the ball rolling?

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Regards
Alex McDonald

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