forrth and abstraction

[quiet_lad]

lisp claims to have pwoer ful abstraction ability as does haskell, can
forth compete?

[Sp...@controlq.com]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, quiet_lad wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: quiet_lad <gavc...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
> Subject: forrth and abstraction

>
> lisp claims to have pwoer ful abstraction ability as does haskell, can
> forth compete?
>

Gavino has learned a new word, today. A B S T R A C T I O N.

Can you say ABSTRACTION?

Abstraction!

[Rod Pemberton]

"quiet_lad" <gavc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e1e81491-03bd-43d6...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

> lisp claims to have pwoer ful abstraction ability as does haskell, can
> forth compete?

Gavino,

Are these just nuisance questions or are you serious with some of them?

Both Forth and Lisp can be implemented with only a few words or operations.
Search c.l.f. for "primitives" and posts by me.


Rod Pemberton

[Jason Damisch]

On Mar 22, 1:32 pm, quiet_lad <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> lisp claims to have pwoer ful abstraction ability as does haskell, can
> forth compete?

Forth is a very flexible language, with control not only of the
interpreter, but also of the compiler. So, you can program using
whatever paradigm you wish. If you want to use layers and
abstractions you may. Or, you can code directly onto the hardware
with words mapping directly to hardware registers. Look at the classic
Washing Machine example.

http://www.forth.com/embedded/swiftx-embedded-systems-7.html

there is not much in the way of multiple layers, but there is an
abstraction in terms of words a human being can understand, matching
the process of what the washing machine does to wash clothes.

Jason

[quiet_lad]

On Mar 22, 2:55 pm, "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_h...@noavailemail.cmm>
wrote:
> "quiet_lad" <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I am always 100% serious.

[quiet_lad]

On Mar 22, 2:40 pm, S...@ControlQ.com wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, quiet_lad wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT)

> > From: quiet_lad <gavcom...@gmail.com>

> > Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
> > Subject: forrth and abstraction
>
> > lisp claims to have pwoer ful abstraction ability as does haskell, can
> > forth compete?
>
> Gavino has learned a new word, today.  A B S T R A C T I O N.
>
> Can you say ABSTRACTION?
>
> Abstraction!

Dude you get that I am genius right? 6 fig net worth etc.
Lisp haskell etc much blobbging about abstraction.
Fair to ask forth such.
Now go back to your moms basement student poor boy, and read some
austrain school economics books.

[Hugh Aguilar]

Gavino has invented a new word, today. B L O B B G I N G

Can you say BLOBBGING?

Blobbging!

You see Mark, if only we were geniuses like Gavino --- we would be
blobbging too!

[quiet_lad]

Hey man I live 200 yards from beach here in socal.
:)
;)
Remember austrian school economics IS economics.
vote republican

[quiet_lad]

On Mar 22, 2:55 pm, "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_h...@noavailemail.cmm>
wrote:

> "quiet_lad" <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I never post something to bother people. Thats whats so funny.
People get this impression but I from a unix pro perspective see so
much crappy software in business its crazy. I am vastly surious about
howto solve software problems better. I also want to get much richer
and software is one avenue for me.

[Hugh Aguilar]

Actually, I apologize for making fun of you. You never put people down
--- you have never told me that my software "sucks" --- so I should
not put you down. I still believe that it is more likely that you will
eventually post some Forth code on comp.lang.forth than the Passanniti/
Rather dynamic duo.

I think that you have an attention-span problem. You never carry
through with these ideas that you post. You never even proof-read your
posts for grammar and spelling errors --- you just slam out the post
as fast as you can type and that is it.

If you are going to succeed, you need to focus on something and stick
with it until you have written a program. Stop this business of
getting interested in some grandiose idea that Forth could be used
for, asking if this is possible (the answer is: "yes, but with a lot
of work"), and then forgetting about it and moving on to some other
wild idea. Focus on something doable and stick with it until you have
done it. Start with something simple --- don't worry, nobody is going
to laugh at you if it is something super-simple --- everybody is going
to cheer wildly as if you had just invented peanut-butter. Go for it!

Well, I have done enough blobbging about distraction for now --- time
to get back to my mom's basement. ;-)

[John Passaniti]

On Mar 26, 12:49 am, quiet_lad <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dude you get that I am genius right? 6 fig net worth etc.

Sorry, but genius isn't defined on how much money you make. It's
defined by what is between your ears. And in the case of newsgroups,
your ability to translate your ideas into words. It's possible you
are a genius in some domain. Clearly not this one.

Maybe you should take some of the six-figure net worth you claim and
hire a programming tutor.

[BruceMcF]

On Mar 29, 4:08 pm, John Passaniti <john.passan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 12:49 am, quiet_lad <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dude you get that I am genius right? 6 fig net worth etc.
>
> Sorry, but genius isn't defined on how much money you make.

And if it were, a net worth between $100,000 and $999,999 probably
wouldn't make it to "genius level" of net worth accumulation. In the
US in 2007, median household net worth in the 50%~75% percentile
bracket was about $200,000, median household net worth in the 75%~90%
bracket was nearly $600,000, and median household income in the
90%~100% bracket was around $1.9m ... so six figure net worth on a
household level put someone likely in the top half of net worth, but
certainly well below the 95% percentile.

[hwf...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:49:24 PM UTC-7, quiet_lad wrote:
> Dude you get that I am genius right?

Then you will be smart enough to read the existing Forth books that are available online, work through some problems and then ask intelligent questions.

[Sp...@controlq.com]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, quiet_lad wrote:
>>> Dude you get that I am genius right? 6 fig net worth etc.
>>> Lisp haskell etc much blobbging about abstraction.
>>> Fair to ask forth such.
>>> Now go back to your moms basement student poor boy, and read some
>>> austrain school economics books.

So, genius, just where is your blobbg where you do all this blobbging?

[hwf...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:45:49 AM UTC-7, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
> I still believe that it is more likely that you will
> eventually post some Forth code on comp.lang.forth than the Passanniti/
> Rather dynamic duo.
>

Passanniti won't blow smoke up your ass (I can only speak figuratively), so c.l.f is a good place to get an honest critique.

[quiet_lad]

On Mar 29, 4:08 pm, John Passaniti <john.passan...@gmail.com> wrote:

1no genius is your wealth, unless you inherit and I didn't
2never in 1000 years

[quiet_lad]

?

[quiet_lad]

you got me there
i gota admit

[quiet_lad]

household is usually married couple who got $$ for parent to buy house
which is this net worth figure.
most people are in debt