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Elizabeth D. Rather  
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 More options Jan 18 2005, 7:46 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
From: "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erat...@forth.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:46:16 -0800
Local: Tues, Jan 18 2005 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: Starting out on Forth
"Paul E. Bennett" <p...@amleth.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:csjjkc$gtl$1$830fa79d@news.demon.co.uk...

> Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:

> [%X]

> > ....  I remember Chuck's axiom about the conservation of complexity;

> That sounds like an interesting one. I don't recall seeing it written
> anywhere. Is there a reference for it?

It goes something like this:

Any given problem has a certain intrinsic level of complexity.  In the
solution of the problem, this complexity will be conserved:  if you dive in
with too little advance thought, your solution may become very complex by
the time it's done.  On the other hand, if you invest more in thought,
design, and preparation, you may be able to achieve a very simple solution
(the complexity hasn't gone away, it's become embodied in the sophistication
of the design).

In connection with our recent discussion, that investment certainly can take
the form of prototyping.  When I was working with Chuck, he'd typically go
through the following process:

1. Read the spec.  Assert confidently that it really isn't as complicated as
that, and write a very clever program that solves the essence of the
problem.

2. Enter a phase in which the customer repeatedly points out aspects of the
spec that have been ignored or omitted; in fixing these, the code gets more
and more complicated.

3. At some point, a full understanding of the problem emerges.  All the
previous code is thrown out and a new program emerges which represents a
simple, elegant solution to the *whole* problem.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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