Fifth documentation
m-coughlin
> Do someone knows where to find any kind of information about
> Fifth, a Forth derivative, Language? (preferred novice level).
> I have to learn it. I know is very similar to Forth but...
Since I sometimes enjoy looking at strange computer
languages, I can tell you that there have been at least two or
three languages with the name "Fifth". I don't think any of them
had any written documentation that would be of use to novices. I
would estimate that there have been around 100 Forth-like
computer languages published. Most of these were of interest
only to their authors and very few other people could find much
use for them or even run them. Their documentation was poorly
commented source code. If you are good at reverse engineering
software, you might like to look at them. Otherwise, if you have
to ask where you can find information on a computer language
derived from Forth, you probably don't want to bother with it.
If you first find a good tutorial for a Forth based computer
language, then you have a completely different situation, and
that version of Forth is well worth studying.
If there is a computer language named "Fifth" that does
have novice level information, then I would like to know about
it. Why do you have to learn Fifth? If someone has given you
this requirement, can he provide more information about which
version of Fifth you have to know about?
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Michael Coughlin m-cou...@comcast.net Cambridge, MA USA
Carlos Albo
tutorial, so I´ll try to do it that way...
My boss asked me to learn it, I have to make some changes on a wrapper
software. I know the compiler is call Fifth86 (v4.7), from Rgy Corporation,
from Yokohama (also called RgyFORTH), but even with this I´m not able to
find anything interesting about it.
Anyway I´ll try to contact with the software engineers of those systems to
ask about Fifht86. If I get something I´ll post here for you!
Thanks for all Michael!
Carlos Albo.
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m-coughlin
> Well, I have no information about this Language yet, I had to
> My boss asked me to learn it, I have to make some changes on
> a wrapper software. I know the compiler is call Fifth86 (v4.7),
> from Rgy Corporation, from Yokohama (also called RgyFORTH),
> about it.
> Anyway I惻l try to contact with the software engineers of
> those systems to ask about Fifht86. If I get something I惻l post
> here for you!
You might have missed seeing the company in California
(Development Associates) that sells a product called FUTURE86
which is based on Fifth86 from RGY in Yokohama.
http://www.geocities.com/devassoc/f86.htm
References for RGY or Rigy Corp. in Japan only lead to
missing web pages.
Forth is a powerful language that enables one programmer or
a very small company to do amazing things. It is also completely
different from other languages and exists in many different
versions. So you are at a disadvantage if you have to maintain it.
The name Forth is a common English word. Searching for it
on Internet data bases gives far too many useless references. I
wish we could change Forth's name to something else that gives
good search results, but then we would still have the problem of
all the different forms that Forth can take and all the
different names that have been used for it.
Fifth86 is a version of Forth for the 80x86 CPU running on
DOS. There are many experts on comp.lang.forth who use Forth
this way. Whenever you see something you don't understand, write
out the code, and they will try their best to help you. Then we
will all go off and debate how to do the same thing differently.
Steve Graham
I would imagine that you are talkings about the language created by
Paul Snow and Cliff Click of Software Construction Co. It featured a
32-bit Forth with a very interesting IDE. I know that I've downloaded
it from the 'Net before, but I could not find the location last night.
Steve Graham
Paul E. Bennett
carlosa...@SPAMterra.es "Carlos Albo" writes:
> Well, I have no information about this Language yet, I had to study a Forth
> tutorial, so I惻l try to do it that way...
> My boss asked me to learn it, I have to make some changes on a wrapper
> software. I know the compiler is call Fifth86 (v4.7), from Rgy Corporation,
> from Yokohama (also called RgyFORTH), but even with this I惴 not able to
> find anything interesting about it.
>
> Anyway I惻l try to contact with the software engineers of those systems to
> ask about Fifht86. If I get something I惻l post here for you!
>
> Thanks for all Michael!
> Carlos Albo.
Have you tried the Simtel site (famous back a few years for having
all sorts of DOS based stuff). I have Fifth on one of their CD-ROM's
but that version is probably quite ancient now. If it will help I
suppose I could post it to you.
This Fifth, by the way, is a sort of Object Oriented Forth.
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http://files.chatnfiles.com/Simtel/DISC2/FORTH/FIFTH.ZIP And a writeup
is at
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/ftp.dei.isep.ipp.pt/pub/forth/talk/fifth25.txt
Steve Graham
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Carlos Albo wrote:
>Hi
>Do someone knows where to find any kind of information about Fifth, a Forth
>derivative, Language? (preferred novice level).
>I have to learn it. I know is very similar to Forth but...
>
>Thanks to all for any help.
> Carlos.
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