What do forther think of plan 9 from bell labs?

gavino

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Jan 10, 2012, 5:23:02 AM1/10/12

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It seems technically awesome but the user interface kicked my ass.

Rod Pemberton

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Jan 10, 2012, 5:39:29 AM1/10/12

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"gavino" <gavc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> What do forther think of plan 9 from bell labs?

Eric S. Raymond already accurately answered that question in the first
sentence attributed to him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs

> It seems technically awesome but the user interface kicked my ass.

No, it seems obsolete. Primary development stopped in 2002. The few
"advanced" ideas of value mentioned on the Wikipedia page seem to have been
copied by BSD, Linux, and Windows many years ago.

Rod Pemberton

BruceMcF

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Jan 10, 2012, 10:22:53 AM1/10/12

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On Jan 10, 5:23 am, gavino <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems technically awesome but the user interface kicked my ass.

what kicked your ass was not plan9 but rio sam and acme

plan9 still has a user and developer community so maybe you can find
the forum where they hang out and volunteer to help with developing
shell and text editor programs that do not kick your ass

Mat

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Jan 12, 2012, 2:09:38 PM1/12/12

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On 10 Jan., 11:39, "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_h...@noavailemail.cmm>
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> "gavino" <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I do not know any other operating system with a common interface and
single abstraction level for all kind of functionality and possible
application. Can you give me a hint, how Linux, BSD and Windows
implementing a similar protocol like 4p ? That would be nice.

Mat.

Mat

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Jan 12, 2012, 2:11:57 PM1/12/12

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Sorry I mean 9p of course (was a typo).

Pavel Klinkovsky

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Jan 12, 2012, 3:53:37 PM1/12/12

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> I do not know any other operating system with a common interface and
> single abstraction level for all kind of functionality and possible
> application.

What about Inferno?!

Just joking, I know the relationship between P9 and Inferno well. I am
using both... ;)

Pavel

Rod Pemberton

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Jan 14, 2012, 4:30:51 AM1/14/12

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"Mat" <dam...@web.de> wrote in message
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> Can you give me a hint, how Linux, BSD and Windows

> implementing a similar protocol like 9p ?

No, I'm not familiar with 9P. And, I definately didn't consider 9P to be
one of the "advanced" ideas. It sounded like message passing used in
Smalltalk to me. Wikipedia's 9P page doesn't say much about it. It seems
to be application of the "everything is a file" concept to network
communication, AFAICT. If so, it's no major leap forward. IIRC, there were
a number of "everything is a file" solutions for networking the past, e.g.,
NASA's Public Domain Simple Sockets Library. Wikipedia's page on Plan 9
mentions that 9P was already implemented for Linux though as well as the
other things that Linux and BSD use.

http://www.openchannelsoftware.com/projects/SSL/

Rod Pemberton

Arnold Doray

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Jan 14, 2012, 10:40:40 AM1/14/12

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Also interesting is that they invented an alternative to TCP called
"Internet Link" protocol [1] . Any experience with this?

[1] http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/il/

Cheers
Arnold

gavino

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Feb 2, 2012, 7:08:52 PM2/2/12

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mutable name spaces seem to not be in bsd ro linux, nor exporting you sound or network card or cpu as a file or importing them, from another machine....