Re: www.prevayler.org anyone do an in ram data base with transaction log in tcl?
Sp...@controlq.com
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, gavino wrote:
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:47:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: gavino <gavc...@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl
> Subject: www.prevayler.org anyone do an in ram data base with transaction log
> in tcl?
>
> thsi seesm outstanding, any do this in tcl?
>
> could be a rad alternative web db
>
> esp with 512G ram box you can get now
>
SQLite supports :memory databases, and the tcl/sqlite interface is
trivial. SQLite now supports foreign keys, and has supported triggers for
some time, so transaction logs can be built into the DDL if you know
SQL/DDL ... but don't you mean forth????
Oh, and if you're looking for web interfaces, Dave Welton and Ronnie
Brunner have both produced workable Tcl based solutions -- I won't mention
them by name, so you will *HAVE* to look those up for yourself.
Instead of trolling the forth and Tcl news groups, why not point your
browser at google or bing or yahoo and look up the answers for yourself?
Your "has anyone ..." questions are starting to chafe!!!
Rob Sciuk
gavino
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, gavino wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:47:04 -0800 (PST)
> > Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl
> > Subject:www.prevayler.organyone do an in ram data base with transaction log
> > in tcl?
>
> > thsi seesm outstanding, any do this in tcl?
>
> > could be a rad alternative web db
>
> > esp with 512G ram box you can get now
>
> SQLite supports :memory databases, and the tcl/sqlite interface is
> trivial. SQLite now supports foreign keys, and has supported triggers for
> some time, so transaction logs can be built into the DDL if you know
> SQL/DDL ... but don't you mean forth????
>
> Oh, and if you're looking for web interfaces, Dave Welton and Ronnie
> Brunner have both produced workable Tcl based solutions -- I won't mention
> them by name, so you will *HAVE* to look those up for yourself.
>
> Instead of trolling the forth and Tcl news groups, why not point your
> browser at google or bing or yahoo and look up the answers for yourself?
>
> Your "has anyone ..." questions are starting to chafe!!!
>
> Rob Sciuk
Hey fuck you man. I am not trolling, and want to hear from people
using the programming languages.
Jerry Avins
> ... I ... want to hear from people using the programming languages.
Why? You never seem to do anything with what you learn.
jerry
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Bruce McFarling
> > Rob Sciuk
Different connotation of trolling. Not trolling as in "being like a
troll under a bridge", but trolling as in "lake trolling for
trout" ... as it says at Active Angler, "Trolling is a technique
tailor-made for anglers with all degrees of expertise because it's
easy, fun and it works!"
W. James
> gavino wrote:
>
> > ... I ... want to hear from people using the programming
> > languages.
>
> Why? You never seem to do anything with what you learn.
True, if in fact he learns anything.
He seems to have a very modest IQ, and he lacks the confidence
and willpower to decide upon a programming language. He wants the
"experts" to tell him what language is best. He will
continue to vacillate forever.
>
> jerry
--
gavino
154 IQ
tom.rmadilo
> 154 IQ
Fortunately for me programming has nothing to do with my IQ, just an
ability to communicate with a piece of silicon, really dumb silicon.
One property of the computer memory system: total amnesia on power
loss. This is a property you don't want in a database, so don't get
all happy about combining "ram" and "database", it just doesn't work.
My rule is to convince the silicon to write everything to iron before
celebrating. Iron remembers stuff, much better than I. That way I can
keep my IQ to something manageable.
I have a two bit memory and one bit is used to remember this limit.
gavino
ha ha!
you are funny
thanks for reminding me to be humble
no point in fighting with people
idea is to conquer nature so that I can have all the food and sleep I
want.
Jerry Avins
Mine varies with the season and how annoyed I feel when the test is
administered. Once, when I was very angry, it came out at 180. That
didn't impress me (or my friends). My wife was over 200. Numbers like
these mean nothing. Often, they characterize jerks.
Jerry
gavino
effort to make neative comment less than to make ncie constructive one
I guess. you barfbag
John Passaniti
> 154 IQ
Really? I'd like to know what standardized test that was. On most
standardized IQ tests I'm aware of, a score of 154 puts you beyond 99%
of the people on the planet. Somehow I doubt it.
For me, one of the best measures of intelligence is the quality of
questions one asks. One of my professional roles is to design and
conduct technical interviews for job candidates. And one technique I
use to help evaluate candidates is to ask a questions that force them
to ask me for more information. The results are often stunning. I've
seen people with impressive academic credentials and past job titles
come in-- people you would assume would have high intelligence-- who
ask questions that show they don't know how to solve problems. One
fellow looked at one of my questions, said "cannot be solved with the
information given", and then asked to move on to the next question.
When I asked him if there were any additional details I could add to
help him solve the problem, he said, "if you don't know the problem
well enough to describe it, then how would you expect me to solve
it?" Go ahead and guess if he was hired.
So regardless of your claims regarding intelligence, what the rest of
us have in this newsgroup is your words-- the questions you ask and
how you respond to answers. Intelligence is many things, but in the
context of this newsgroup, intelligence is a measure of how you solve
problems. And I just don't see a lot of problem solving from you. I
see endless "could Forth do X" questions even after being told
repeatedly that Forth is a general purpose programming language that
can do anything. The question is never if Forth can do X. The
question is if Forth is the better than other options for doing X.
Intelligence is also about the ability to learn and apply that
learning. So, what have you learned from your time in
comp.lang.forth? How have you been able to apply what you've learned?
John Passaniti
> On Dec 11, 8:50 pm, gavino <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 154 IQ
>
> Fortunately for me programming has nothing to do with my IQ, just an
> ability to communicate with a piece of silicon, really dumb silicon.
No, it's more than that. Writing software of any significance
involves being able to (1) understand the problem, (2) come up with a
solution to the problem, (3) express that solution in terms of the
language and semantics of a programming language, (4) view the
execution of that code in terms of an abstracted view of the
underlying hardware, and (5) use feedback from the machine to debug
code and learn from the error. Beyond that, writing software involves
planning, communicating the design to others, and being able to
comprehend the system as a whole. If you really believe these
abilities have nothing to do with intelligence, then, well, I'm
fascinated.
Jerry Avins
> ... One of my professional roles is to design and
> conduct technical interviews for job candidates. And one technique I
> use to help evaluate candidates is to ask a questions that force them
> to ask me for more information. The results are often stunning. I've
> seen people with impressive academic credentials and past job titles
> come in-- people you would assume would have high intelligence-- who
> ask questions that show they don't know how to solve problems.
A question I used to ask was
Given that i = C*dv/dt and v = sin(wt), then i=w*C*cos(wt). Then Z=v/i =
sin(wt)/c*cos(wt) = (1/C)*tan(wt). Yes?
Some just laughed. Some were stumped. A few figured it out.
One question I was asked in 1962 was how to generate 10 watts of square
wave power at 100 MHz. I answered that I knew of no device that could do
it, not TWTs, doorknob or lighthouse tubes, or any other. I knew little
of semiconductors, but what little I did know gave no cause for
optimism. The questioner replied, "You're exactly right, but I need it,
so what should I do?" I said doubtfully that he could always synthesize
it from sine components. He lit up and said that that was exactly what
he did. I goy the job.
Jerry
Jerry Avins
I disagree with that last. Id gavino thinks those abilities don't
require intelligence, then he hasn't much.
Jerry
Bruce McFarling
> I disagree with that last. Id gavino thinks those abilities don't
> require intelligence, then he hasn't much.
This is confusing intelligence conceived of as an index of a certain
type of mental capacity (more plausibly, some particular type of
mental capacity), with education/ignorance. Just as one can be a
brilliantly talented athlete with poor skills training and be beaten
by a much less talented but better coached and prepared opponent, one
could by quite intelligent but due to lack of exposure or application,
never acquire sufficient critical reasoning skills to make much use of
that intelligence.
So while lack of intelligence is a *sufficient* reason for holding the
views referred to, it is not a *necessary* reason.
Andrew Haley
> On Dec 12, 12:25?am, "tom.rmadilo" <tom.rmad...@gmail.com> wrote:
He didn't say it has nothing to do with intelligence, he said it has
nothing to do with IQ. That is quite a different thing.
Andrew.
M. Strobel
While intelligence and social ability are notoriously difficult to test and measure, it is generally believed
that modestly above-average intelligence (1 to 2 standard deviations above the mean) correlates upward with
social ability. In American high schools, for example, highly-active honors students have been shown to be
quite popular in most cases. However, abnormally high intelligence, 3 or more standard deviations above the
mean, tends to correlate strongly with poor social skills.
Cited from http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Correlation_between_intelligence_and_social_deficiency
Now this is absolutely OT, but I think we share a common educational ideal (german Bildungsideal)
/Str.
Jerry Avins
Well, technically, yes. But the kid has been hanging around here long
enough so that, if he observed intelligently, some of the group's
collective smarts ought to have rubbed off on him by now.
Jerry Avins
...
> ... abnormally high intelligence, 3 or more standard deviations above the
> mean, tends to correlate strongly with poor social skills.
...
I can testify to that from personal experience. Still, it is possible
with application and analysis to overcome most of the difficulty if one
cares to.
Jerry
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Bruce McFarling
> Well, technically, yes. But the kid has been hanging around here long
> enough so that, if he observed intelligently, some of the group's
> collective smarts ought to have rubbed off on him by now.
Certainly. The point is that while lack of the effective intelligence
is one plausible explanation for that, a second plausible explanation
is possessing the effective intelligence and not bothering to bring it
to bear.
Brad
>
> ha ha!
> you are funny
> thanks for reminding me to be humble
> no point in fighting with people
> idea is to conquer nature so that I can have all the food and sleep I
> want.
You might start by conquering Forth. It's not hard to learn, although
Forth's dirty little secret is that it takes several years to learn to
write "good" Forth. For many people, 5 to 10 years. But then, anything
worthwhile is like that. It helps to believe that it will be worth it.
For me it was worth it.
-Brad
gavino
communication is important
be interesting to see who you consider intelligent
gavino
I wish to have a biz not a job.
I am confident I could outdo a person 4 levels up from my current job
in my current company.
jobs are so stultifyingly limiting.
gavino
>
> - Show quoted text -
don't get my words mixed....careful
gavino
I guess I have an inner fear of not getting anywhere.
Intimidation I suppose.
Jerry Avins
I was able to chose my own projects much of the time. If you are as good
as you think you are, you can find a job that doesn't stifle you. As a
business owner, your freedom is limited, especially if you have
employees. I once explained to my group leader why I refused promotion
to management: "It's my job to make you look good. It's your job to beg,
borrow, or steal the resources I need to do that. I like my job better."
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Bruce McFarling
> I wish to have a biz not a job.
> I am confident I could outdo a person 4 levels up from my current job
> in my current company.
> jobs are so stultifyingly limiting.
Then get a pair of the same model cheap Chinese netbooks, identify a
market opportunity that they cannot tap with their existing software
base which will possibly go untapped due to resource constraint, and
*contact* someone to fill that opportunity and vest the rights with
you. The pair is so you can verify the deliverable benchmark is hit as
they progress.
Then start with medium lots, for which you aim to merely break-even at
first, and start selling the cheap netbooks with the enhanced
capabilities on eBay. If you succeeded, you can shortly move up to
larger lots and start earning a living, if you failed, the
unwillingness to pay extra for your product versus the vanilla
competition will tell you that you failed.
That brings together the three things required to start the biz: the
hardware capability, the software capability, and the venture capital.
Since you can't bring the first two to the table, it will have to be
the third.
And the way our economy is set up, putting in the financial capital
that is at risk of loss of the project fails is the default way of
getting a business started - the strategy of bringing the skilled
labor to the table and starting up on a shoestring is more often a way
of turning an inexpensive hobby into a more expensive one.
Glenn Jackman
> On Dec 11, 6:57�pm, "W. James" <w_a_x_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Jerry Avins wrote:
> > > gavino wrote:
> >
> > > > �... �I ... want to hear from people using the programming
> > > > languages.
> >
> > > Why? You never seem to do anything with what you learn.
> >
> > True, if in fact he learns anything.
> > He seems to have a very modest IQ, and he lacks the confidence
> > and willpower to decide upon a programming language. �He wants the
> > "experts" to tell him what language is best. �He will
> > continue to vacillate forever.
>
> I guess. you barfbag
At 2009-12-15 03:13AM, "gavino" wrote:
> communication is important
>
> be interesting to see who you consider intelligent
Interesting juxtaposition.
--
Glenn Jackman
Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. -- Anonymous
John Passaniti
> communication is important
>
> be interesting to see who you consider intelligent
I already answered that. The most intelligent people I know are the
ones who are very aware of what they don't know, and who ask questions
that demonstrate they have done the ground-work in answering the
question.
John Passaniti
> I am confident I could outdo a person 4 levels up from my current job
> in my current company.
> jobs are so stultifyingly limiting.
That very well may be true. People four levels up from where you are
may be no better than you are, and you could easily replace them.
I think there is a period in every software developer's life where
they look at those above them, and say "I could do that." But the
truth is that to run a business-- at least to run it well-- requires a
tremendous variety of skills that you probably don't have. Nobody I
know who runs a business would write endless "can Forth do X"
messages. They would have read the material online and in print,
learn about the places where Forth excels (and where Forth doesn't),
think about the essential qualities of both, and have the answer
themselves.
Probably the fundamental skill in running a business is getting the
answers to questions. And that requires the ability to ask the right
questions. You aren't asking the right questions.
gavino
>
> - Show quoted text -
hilarious
I see a lot of redhat, which I am not allowed to upgrade because they
are afraid to break the java apps runing on it. I guess the devs
don't really understand thier won stuff and how it is setup. Scary.
Then we get aquired adn the big company moves the tired old stuff
running on redhat 4 into a big managed facility where no one can get
anything done with out asking a project non tek person, who then files
a ticket with the facility, and the the people at the facilty are
shaky. All love to use software at least 5 years old.
gavino
Not quite sure what you mean here.
gavino
No I mean an example.
gavino
No I actually have massive skill in all those areas. Just not the
connections.
I think you don't understand my purpose here. I ask not because I can
not look things up but because it is much more interesting to talk to
someone who is using software in thier own company or projects and ask
them how it works and what the challenges are. So basically instead
of your lame opinions about how smart I am etc. or if I have business
skills...would be more interesting to ask for example what forth
applications you have written, how do they run? have they been
maintainable and upgradeable? are they profitable? do they solve
problems fast and more flexibly than other sfotware tools you have
used? Then I might be interested in your replies and not think of you
as this arrogant moronic overcricial tool.
Jerry Avins
...
> I think you don't understand my purpose here. I ask not because I can
> not look things up but because it is much more interesting to talk to
> someone who is using software in thier own company or projects and ask
> them how it works and what the challenges are. So basically instead
> of your lame opinions about how smart I am etc. or if I have business
> skills...would be more interesting to ask for example what forth
> applications you have written, how do they run? have they been
> maintainable and upgradeable? are they profitable? do they solve
> problems fast and more flexibly than other sfotware tools you have
> used? Then I might be interested in your replies and not think of you
> as this arrogant moronic overcricial tool.
That amounts to, "I can do everything worthwhile, so whatever I can't do
isn't worth doing or even thinking. You may have high IQ, but your ego
is blinding you.
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Bruce McFarling
> Not quite sure what you mean here.
There's this kit that's hitting the fringe market at $120~$140, WiFi,
ARM or Mips processor, 2gb flash drive, 256Mb, 7" screen. That's
wholesale around $80~$90. There's even cheaper kit of the same type
coming down the pike. Its presently normally running WinCE or some
Linux as an OS, one of them promise to be running Android sometime
next year.
Its a massively competitive market on all sides, so if someone had an
in-house capability/efficiency advantage, it would support selling the
kit into a market that they cannot presently tap based on existing
capabilities, and allow healthier margins than the vendors of the bog
standard version.
Sp...@controlq.com
>
> There's this kit that's hitting the fringe market at $120~$140, WiFi,
> ARM or Mips processor, 2gb flash drive, 256Mb, 7" screen. That's
> wholesale around $80~$90. There's even cheaper kit of the same type
> coming down the pike. Its presently normally running WinCE or some
> Linux as an OS, one of them promise to be running Android sometime
> next year.
>
> Its a massively competitive market on all sides, so if someone had an
> in-house capability/efficiency advantage, it would support selling the
> kit into a market that they cannot presently tap based on existing
> capabilities, and allow healthier margins than the vendors of the bog
> standard version.
>
Links???
Bruce McFarling
Uwe Klein
add it to the available linux netbook distributions ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_netbook-oriented_Linux_distributions
uwe
Bruce McFarling
wrote:
>
> uwe
Its not really an available Linux netbook distribution as much as a
slowly growing resource site for people with that hardware. I don't
know that the ability to replace Windows CE with Linux by doing a
system restore with the file intended for the netbooks that shipped
with Linux qualifies as an "available Linux distribution" in the same
sense, and the other distributions they link to already seem to be in
that list.
Uwe Klein
> Its not really an available Linux netbook distribution as much as a
> slowly growing resource site for people with that hardware. I don't
> know that the ability to replace Windows CE with Linux by doing a
> system restore with the file intended for the netbooks that shipped
> with Linux qualifies as an "available Linux distribution" in the same
> sense, and the other distributions they link to already seem to be in
> that list.
My thinking was why don't you just move over to debian etch for mipsII ?
uwe
Bernd Paysan
> Nobody I
> know who runs a business would write endless "can Forth do X"
> messages.
Ah, the people I know who run businesses do exactly that. I.e. they
show little understanding in what they ask for, and don't sort in the
answers as how you'd imagine they should. Since I know how they got
there, I understand why they didn't require skills - it's not necessary.
All you need is the right connections and then not screw up too badly.
Having been around long enough in a growing industry is often good
enough for a ticket to senior management, which is called "senior"
because the people there are either bald or gray-haired ;-). They would
never hire themselves, because they know that they aren't up to date.
The trouble is: When they hire someone, they can't even judge properly
if he's up to date. Since that's the fact, they rely rather on
relationships so that they hire someone they can "trust".
In the Chinese culture, this net of relationship is formalized as
"Guanxi" - but it exists in all cultures; there just hasn't been enough
effort put into examining it as in China. I'm quite sure these managers
don't realize it - unless they are Chinese themselves - but most of
their decisions for higher posts shows obvious traces that they gave the
post to someone they know rather than someone who has the right skills.
Since the competition does it the same way, these businesses don't
really fail; they even repeat and mimic all the mistakes their
competitors make. E.g. take the current downturn and the semiconductor
industry: The usual "procedure" during a downturn (I've witnessed more
than one downturn, and know what happens) is to first reduce your stock.
I.e. fabs closing down, distributors empty their warehouse, customers
consume their stock. Until there's nothing left. Then, customers call
distributors, distributors call fabs, and fabs are slowly reopened, and
resume operation. The latency is several month, during which nothing is
available - that's the phase we are in at the moment. My company can't
deliver, and when the competition wasn't that stupid, this would be the
end of my company. But fortunately, the competition is just as stupid,
and can't deliver, either. So the costumers, who have failed to order
at the right time, can only bang their heads on their tables. In a few
months, you as consumer will see the results, because by then, your
local dealer runs out of stock.
This happens every time, and the senior management always responds to
this sort of crisis as if it was the first time. The funny thing is
that there are several participants in that chain who repeat the same
mistakes and don't learn - this chain is just too long to be visible
with the 3-month-reporting period. In fact, it takes a whole year to
manifest.
I don't want to go to senior management, because I would have to tell my
coworkers "you are wrong" all the time. I do that in engineering, as
well, but engineers are used to being wrong (oh, and I do tell my senior
managers that they are wrong when I meet them, as well - and sometimes,
my advices even get through ;-).
--
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/
Albert van der Horst
This was explained to me by my geography teacher. In farming
it is called the "pig cycle". It takes some time to grow a pig.
He didn't call in ancient Chinese wisdom.
>--
>Bernd Paysan
Groetjes Albert
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Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
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Bruce McFarling
wrote:
> This was explained to me by my geography teacher. In farming
> it is called the "pig cycle". It takes some time to grow a pig.
> He didn't call in ancient Chinese wisdom.
Guanxi is not ancient Chinese wisdom - it is very much current
everyday practice, though as Bernd suggests, its more a difference of
degree than a difference in kind - I had several Chinese students
studying in Australia who could chew your ear off on how aggravating
Guanxi is to work around.
Bernd Paysan
Some companies like TSMC even claim to have "no Guanxi" (I won't believe
- same as some Indian high tech companies claim they have no cast system
inside, and yet still most managers are Brahmins). Guanxi is just human
nature - trust those people you know, people with similar origin, and
working against human nature is difficult, whereas going with human
nature is dead easy (now *this* is ancient Chinese knowledge ;-).
And the "pig cycle" is only an engineering problem. People have long
ago found ways to stop these cycles by compensating both the influencing
factors (like Imhotep's irrigation system) and built storage houses for
surplus wheat in good years. Storing pigs didn't work that well, so
that's why it took much longer to cure pig cycles.
It is a common problem of feedback loops that they tend to oscillate
when they have a significant delay inside and an amplification factor.
The solution to that is to compensate the oscillation, i.e. use an
inverted signal, and an RC filter inside the system. The "C" in the
real pig cycle of course is storage of frozen pigs, and the "R" is the
proportionality factor when to stock pigs or when to sell stock. We do
that now as much as possible, and only those agricultural goods that
can't be stored for long enough (like milk) still have "pig cycles".
However, the management of the whole semiconductor industry obviously
doesn't know anything about this ancient knowledge.
gavino
you don't understand
gavino
so can you do a startup that hoards parts until a downturn and then is
the only supplier? charge monopoly prices?
gavino
wrote:
> In article <oqrsv6-n88....@vimes.paysan.nom>,
lol
hide some pigs somewhere, then when scarce at right time, bring em out
to sell to hungry people
gavino
who do you trust?
I guesss whats missing is that if you are manager, you think person
you liek can learn the ropes of the job in say 2 months, and have
ally, rather than guy who knows stuff in 2 week but who might be your
rival's ally, politics of course
gavino
I wonder if intel secretly owns amd, just to avoid monopoly lawsuits.
I wonder if the china chip is real.
Elizabeth D Rather
...
>
> so can you do a startup that hoards parts until a downturn and then is
> the only supplier? charge monopoly prices?
Certainly. What you have to do is figure out what exactly which parts
are going to experience a shortage, when that will occur, how long it
will last, and what the demand will be when that happens. Having done
all that, then all you need to do is convince somebody with a lot of
money to invest in your scheme.
Cheers,
Elizabeth
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Bernd Paysan
> gavino wrote:
> ...
>>
>> so can you do a startup that hoards parts until a downturn and then
>> is the only supplier? charge monopoly prices?
>
> Certainly. What you have to do is figure out what exactly which parts
> are going to experience a shortage, when that will occur, how long it
> will last, and what the demand will be when that happens. Having done
> all that, then all you need to do is convince somebody with a lot of
> money to invest in your scheme.
And even that has been done - the business model in question is called
"distributor". The whole problem with the idea is: When the actual
downturn happens, your investor becomes nervous and doesn't give you the
money you then need to stock the parts.
The "compensate for latencies" works well in the semiconductor industry
during normal operation. It's only during downturns, all the big guys
run around in headless chicken mode. I don't know a cure. During the
last recession, one part of our now bigger company did what I would
suggest - they kept the line running and stocked parts they thought
would be needed afterwards. It took years to empty those stocks
afterwards, at least for the less popular parts they produced. The
management was replaced, and apparently the strategy wasn't considered
to be "good". It's like "nobody does it that way". The new CEO was
very nervous about all these parts in stock, and sold them in a hurry
(i.e. cheap). He later acknowledged that he had to learn a lot about
that business. Well, he sold the company before the next crash, so we
have now another CEO, who has no experiences with recessions as CEO, but
a lot of experience with being a headless chicken.
gavino
LOL
wow
I work at a huge movie site online. You would laugh at what goes on.
Thier top programmer quit and mangement wants to outsource to india.
The parent company already has. Its wild.