Will Bertrand Meyer ever release his ETL3 book?

[llothar]

I looked there recently and the last comments are from 2006.

Maybe he can put his PDF under some open license and we can use this
book to learn/talk more about eiffel.

[Helmut]

My impression: It will take some time. From what I see, the ECMA
committee is still working on the Eiffel language specification. The
last version of the standard from june 2006 is probably reclecting the
status of the draft etl3 on Bertrand's website.

The ecma language spec from june 2006 is inconsistent and not
reflecting the current definition of Eiffel. They are currently
introducing a new loop construct (and who knows what else).

Unfortunately the ECMA committee works in the dark and it is very
difficult to find out, what is going on there. Therefore I don't think
that Bertrand will release anything draft under a public license.
Moreover if you want to discuss some features of Eiffel, you will
hardly get any response from Bertrand and his ECMA committee (at least
this is my experience).

[llothar]

On 15 Nov., 20:23, Helmut <helmut.bra...@gmx.net> wrote:

> My impression: It will take some time. From what I see, the ECMA
> committee is still working on the Eiffel language specification. The
> last version of the standard from june 2006 is probably reclecting the
> status of the draft etl3 on Bertrand's website.

Yes the old Eiffel problem, better never then successfull.

By the way, i just found on amazon a new book

"Touch of Class: Learning to Program Well with Objects and Contracts"

http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Class-Learning-Program-Contracts/dp/3540921443/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258316758&sr=1-2

Has anyone read this book? Is it about Eiffel and as good as the
"Object Oriented Software Engineering" was years ago.

[ZuLuuuuuu]

On Nov 15, 10:35 pm, llothar <scholz.lot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> By the way, i just found on amazon a new book
>
> "Touch of Class: Learning to Program Well with Objects and Contracts"
>

> http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Class-Learning-Program-Contracts/dp/35409...

>
> Has anyone read this book? Is it about Eiffel and as good as the
> "Object Oriented Software Engineering"  was years ago.
>
>

I was reading this book a while ago. Yes, it uses Eiffel language and
EiffelStudio as the teaching tools. I haven't read "Object Oriented
Software Engineering" but its audience is a little different I guess
since "Touch of Class ..." starts teaching from ground zero and that's
why great for beginners to both computer programming and Eiffel. I
like the book pretty much, I should say.