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Mr Flibble
Oct 2, 2018, 2:22:27 PM10/2/18
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Is there any point killfiling Rick C. Hodgin? He won't shut the fuck up
and everyone replies to him so I see lots of half conversations and parts
of his effluence quoted in those replies.
/Flibble
--
"Suppose it’s all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I’d say, bone cancer in children? What’s that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It’s not right, it’s utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That’s what I would say."
and everyone replies to him so I see lots of half conversations and parts
of his effluence quoted in those replies.
/Flibble
--
"Suppose it’s all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I’d say, bone cancer in children? What’s that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It’s not right, it’s utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That’s what I would say."
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 2, 2018, 2:50:39 PM10/2/18
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On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:22:27 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> Is there any point killfiling Rick C. Hodgin? He won't shut .. up
by email address.
If any post includes "Rick C. Hodgin" in it, delete it.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
> Is there any point killfiling Rick C. Hodgin? He won't shut .. up
> and everyone replies to him so I see lots of half conversations and parts
> of his effluence quoted in those replies.
Add my name to a test to the body of the message, and not just
> of his effluence quoted in those replies.
by email address.
If any post includes "Rick C. Hodgin" in it, delete it.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Scott Lurndal
Oct 2, 2018, 3:49:53 PM10/2/18
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trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone (except you)
will be happy.
Dan Purgert
Oct 2, 2018, 9:42:43 PM10/2/18
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>> [...]
to browbeat us into orthodoxy? Truth is lies. Love is hate. Peace is
war. etc.
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>>If any post includes "Rick C. Hodgin" in it, delete it.
>
> Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses. Don't
> trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone (except you)
> will be happy.
Does puking over these groups actually make him happy? Or is it a show
>
> Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses. Don't
> trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone (except you)
> will be happy.
to browbeat us into orthodoxy? Truth is lies. Love is hate. Peace is
war. etc.
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Öö Tiib
Oct 2, 2018, 10:00:36 PM10/2/18
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On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 04:42:43 UTC+3, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> [...]
> >>If any post includes "Rick C. Hodgin" in it, delete it.
> >
> > Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses. Don't
> > trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone (except you)
> > will be happy.
>
> Does puking over these groups actually make him happy?
Yes. He feels that he accomplishes something that way. Lack of progress
> Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> [...]
> >>If any post includes "Rick C. Hodgin" in it, delete it.
> >
> > Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses. Don't
> > trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone (except you)
> > will be happy.
>
> Does puking over these groups actually make him happy?
with his calives and what were there makes him to feel full of shit. So
he goes and vomits some of it out in his posts how everybody else are
blinded and possessed by his demons.
Kenny McCormack
Oct 3, 2018, 3:10:54 AM10/3/18
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In article <a23bd6a4-8969-4cfe...@googlegroups.com>,
I assume that, like just about everything else, it's all about the money.
All religions/cults are, ultimately, about the money.
I'm assuming that Rick is hoping that at least one sucker will contact him
as a result of his postings, and get ensnared in his web. In fact, one
should assume that he's already caught some fish, given that he's been at
this for quite some time now.
--
The difference between communism and capitalism?
In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it's the other way around.
- Daniel Bell, The End of Ideology (1960) -
All religions/cults are, ultimately, about the money.
I'm assuming that Rick is hoping that at least one sucker will contact him
as a result of his postings, and get ensnared in his web. In fact, one
should assume that he's already caught some fish, given that he's been at
this for quite some time now.
--
The difference between communism and capitalism?
In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it's the other way around.
- Daniel Bell, The End of Ideology (1960) -
David Brown
Oct 3, 2018, 3:43:33 AM10/3/18
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On 03/10/18 09:10, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <a23bd6a4-8969-4cfe...@googlegroups.com>,
feeling of controlling people, or being worshipped and obeyed by people)
- but most are about money.
However, that's for the people at the top. They rely on masses lower
down who /think/ its about something else - being better people, talking
to god, storing brownie points in heaven for a better life after this
one. That's how the folks at the top convince the folks lower down to
part with their money.
And I think in many cases, the folks at the top - the leaders or
inventors of the cult - often start off with good intentions, and really
believing what they are selling. Corruption from within or from outside
seems inevitable, but it doesn't necessarily start that way.
>
> I'm assuming that Rick is hoping that at least one sucker will contact him
> as a result of his postings, and get ensnared in his web. In fact, one
> should assume that he's already caught some fish, given that he's been at
> this for quite some time now.
>
I don't think Rick is after money. He is after brownie points with his
god. He really does believe we are all going to burn for eternity - and
that means /everyone/, including other Christians that don't follow his
exact cult rules. And he believes the only way to keep on the good side
of his god is to keep spreading his "message". He is completely blind
to the hypocrisy and inconsistency of what he writes - he really does
think it is true. You can be sure that anyone after money would have
moved on, looking for more fertile ground elsewhere - the economics of
posting here don't make sense.
As for how many followers he has, have a look at his CAlive google group
and see how many people post there.
> In article <a23bd6a4-8969-4cfe...@googlegroups.com>,
> à ö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 04:42:43 UTC+3, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> If any post includes "Rick C. Hodgin" in it, delete it.
>>>>
>>>> Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses.
>>>> Don't trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone
>>>> (except you) will be happy.
>>>
>>> Does puking over these groups actually make him happy?
>>
>> Yes. He feels that he accomplishes something that way. Lack of progress
>> with his calives and what were there makes him to feel full of shit. So
>> he goes and vomits some of it out in his posts how everybody else are
>> blinded and possessed by his demons.
>
> I assume that, like just about everything else, it's all about the money.
>
> All religions/cults are, ultimately, about the money.
Some are about sex, others are about other kinds of power (such as the
>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 04:42:43 UTC+3, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> If any post includes "Rick C. Hodgin" in it, delete it.
>>>>
>>>> Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses.
>>>> Don't trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone
>>>> (except you) will be happy.
>>>
>>> Does puking over these groups actually make him happy?
>>
>> Yes. He feels that he accomplishes something that way. Lack of progress
>> with his calives and what were there makes him to feel full of shit. So
>> he goes and vomits some of it out in his posts how everybody else are
>> blinded and possessed by his demons.
>
> I assume that, like just about everything else, it's all about the money.
>
> All religions/cults are, ultimately, about the money.
feeling of controlling people, or being worshipped and obeyed by people)
- but most are about money.
However, that's for the people at the top. They rely on masses lower
down who /think/ its about something else - being better people, talking
to god, storing brownie points in heaven for a better life after this
one. That's how the folks at the top convince the folks lower down to
part with their money.
And I think in many cases, the folks at the top - the leaders or
inventors of the cult - often start off with good intentions, and really
believing what they are selling. Corruption from within or from outside
seems inevitable, but it doesn't necessarily start that way.
>
> I'm assuming that Rick is hoping that at least one sucker will contact him
> as a result of his postings, and get ensnared in his web. In fact, one
> should assume that he's already caught some fish, given that he's been at
> this for quite some time now.
>
god. He really does believe we are all going to burn for eternity - and
that means /everyone/, including other Christians that don't follow his
exact cult rules. And he believes the only way to keep on the good side
of his god is to keep spreading his "message". He is completely blind
to the hypocrisy and inconsistency of what he writes - he really does
think it is true. You can be sure that anyone after money would have
moved on, looking for more fertile ground elsewhere - the economics of
posting here don't make sense.
As for how many followers he has, have a look at his CAlive google group
and see how many people post there.
bol...@cylonhq.com
Oct 3, 2018, 4:32:11 AM10/3/18
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2018 19:49:42 GMT
sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
have to remove the dot after the C to post anything with it in. Perhaps
you have form with them. Alternatively they could have just screwed up their
regex matchers but the former would be so much more interesting :)
sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>"Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
>>On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:22:27 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>> Is there any point killfiling Rick C Hodgin? He won't shut .. up
>>On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:22:27 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>> and everyone replies to him so I see lots of half conversations and parts
>>> of his effluence quoted in those replies.
>>
>>Add my name to a test to the body of the message, and not just
>>by email address.
>>
>>If any post includes "Rick C Hodgin" in it, delete it.
>>> of his effluence quoted in those replies.
>>
>>Add my name to a test to the body of the message, and not just
>>by email address.
>>
>
>Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses. Don't
>trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone (except you)
>will be happy.
For some reason aioe.org news servers consider your name a Bad Word and I
>Don't be an idiot. Don't put the onus on others for your trespasses. Don't
>trespass on this group and everything will be fine and everyone (except you)
>will be happy.
have to remove the dot after the C to post anything with it in. Perhaps
you have form with them. Alternatively they could have just screwed up their
regex matchers but the former would be so much more interesting :)
Queequeg
Oct 3, 2018, 6:24:07 AM10/3/18
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David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> As for how many followers he has, have a look at his CAlive google group
> and see how many people post there.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/caliveprogramminglanguage
> As for how many followers he has, have a look at his CAlive google group
> and see how many people post there.
- CAlive to add #append and #prepend to add content to prior #define
tokens (1)
- Jesus will forgive you, and give you eternal life (2)
- CAlive to add end keyword and code block for polite, common termination
of functions (1)
- Why study the Bible? What can we learn? (1)
- CAlive to introduce wind {..} and unwind {..} blocks and unwind keyword
(1)
- The life of extravagant transformation in and by Jesus Christ (1)
- CAlive to introduce type-ii and type-i functions, as well as i {..}
blocks (1)
- How much is your life worth? (1)
- CAlive to allow directional pointers (ptr->member and member<-ptr) (3)
- Have an Encounter with Jesus today (1)
- CAlive to introduce bury keyword, and flag unused return parameters (1)
- Eternal life (1)
- CAlive to add full CAlive language support for pre-processing (1)
- The Problem with Christianity (1)
Wow.
--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSzL1DqQn0
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 7:49:05 AM10/3/18
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Sin is the enemy of man, not man himself. I am not against any of you.
I am teaching you the way things are. We are born into sin in this world
(do you have to teach a 2yr old to lie?). That sin has caused the condemn-
ation of our soul, and the death of our spirit. The only input we have
is our flesh.
Because we are spiritually dead, the evil spirits which exist are able to
influence our thinking, feelings, emotions, and they lead us to do sinful
things. They can only lead us. They can't make us do things, but when
we acquiesce to their prompting, they then gain a legal license to enter
in to our bodies and then they can make us do things.
They have done this to leaders to change the course of history, altering
public policy, establishing new goals which effectively enslave or wrap
each of us in a world with an increasing propensity toward sin.
Our music industry, television, news media, movies, radio, everything has
been compromised by the enemy, the purpose of which is to give those evil
spirits bodies by which to interact with world (as their own physical bodies
are locked up in chains awaiting the day of judgment), and to keep each
of us locked up in sin, unforgiven, and just as damned to Hell as they are.
I teach you these things because I know the way out. It is to have your
sin forgiven by Jesus.
Once He takes your sin away, your soul is no longer under condemnation,
and your spirit comes alive. This new spirit life "switches the light on"
so you can see the evil spirits at work in your life. This enables you
to turn from them and follow God's guidance, which is also spirit.
It's why Christians change so much once they're saved. The voices givinf
them input do a 180. But the enemy doesn't give up. He regroups and comes
back looking to find a way back in, to diminish /YOUR/ impact on this world,
to hobble you under the enemy's deception and weight of oppression, and
this happens to many Christians, myself included.
The way out of that oppression is to obey and pursue God as per His guidance
in scripture, to pray, fast, read and study the Bible, to meet together
for fellowship and accountability, to keep your focus on the spirit, not
the flesh.
The goal is to be productive for the Lord, to be His servant, to reach others,
to yield a bountiful harvest, which is new, eternal life in others. The
other goal is to keep reign over yourself, which requires focus, discipline,
purpose.
God's ways lead to eternal life through Jesus Christ. It's not about money,
or power, or anything else. It's about forgiveness of sin, and eternal
life. It's about me and you coming to know Jesus. Period.
The enemy tries to soil that goal by painting it as something else. That
enemy has no power over the truth, and the true calling of God remains despite
that enemy's attempts as soiling the goal with lies.
Jesus is calling you to Him. I simply teach you that. It is about Him
and you, and not about me.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
I am teaching you the way things are. We are born into sin in this world
(do you have to teach a 2yr old to lie?). That sin has caused the condemn-
ation of our soul, and the death of our spirit. The only input we have
is our flesh.
Because we are spiritually dead, the evil spirits which exist are able to
influence our thinking, feelings, emotions, and they lead us to do sinful
things. They can only lead us. They can't make us do things, but when
we acquiesce to their prompting, they then gain a legal license to enter
in to our bodies and then they can make us do things.
They have done this to leaders to change the course of history, altering
public policy, establishing new goals which effectively enslave or wrap
each of us in a world with an increasing propensity toward sin.
Our music industry, television, news media, movies, radio, everything has
been compromised by the enemy, the purpose of which is to give those evil
spirits bodies by which to interact with world (as their own physical bodies
are locked up in chains awaiting the day of judgment), and to keep each
of us locked up in sin, unforgiven, and just as damned to Hell as they are.
I teach you these things because I know the way out. It is to have your
sin forgiven by Jesus.
Once He takes your sin away, your soul is no longer under condemnation,
and your spirit comes alive. This new spirit life "switches the light on"
so you can see the evil spirits at work in your life. This enables you
to turn from them and follow God's guidance, which is also spirit.
It's why Christians change so much once they're saved. The voices givinf
them input do a 180. But the enemy doesn't give up. He regroups and comes
back looking to find a way back in, to diminish /YOUR/ impact on this world,
to hobble you under the enemy's deception and weight of oppression, and
this happens to many Christians, myself included.
The way out of that oppression is to obey and pursue God as per His guidance
in scripture, to pray, fast, read and study the Bible, to meet together
for fellowship and accountability, to keep your focus on the spirit, not
the flesh.
The goal is to be productive for the Lord, to be His servant, to reach others,
to yield a bountiful harvest, which is new, eternal life in others. The
other goal is to keep reign over yourself, which requires focus, discipline,
purpose.
God's ways lead to eternal life through Jesus Christ. It's not about money,
or power, or anything else. It's about forgiveness of sin, and eternal
life. It's about me and you coming to know Jesus. Period.
The enemy tries to soil that goal by painting it as something else. That
enemy has no power over the truth, and the true calling of God remains despite
that enemy's attempts as soiling the goal with lies.
Jesus is calling you to Him. I simply teach you that. It is about Him
and you, and not about me.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Öö Tiib
Oct 3, 2018, 1:46:45 PM10/3/18
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On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 10:43:33 UTC+3, David Brown wrote:
>
> I don't think Rick is after money. He is after brownie points with his
> god. He really does believe we are all going to burn for eternity - and
> that means /everyone/, including other Christians that don't follow his
> exact cult rules. And he believes the only way to keep on the good side
> of his god is to keep spreading his "message". He is completely blind
> to the hypocrisy and inconsistency of what he writes - he really does
> think it is true. You can be sure that anyone after money would have
> moved on, looking for more fertile ground elsewhere - the economics of
> posting here don't make sense.
I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
>
> I don't think Rick is after money. He is after brownie points with his
> god. He really does believe we are all going to burn for eternity - and
> that means /everyone/, including other Christians that don't follow his
> exact cult rules. And he believes the only way to keep on the good side
> of his god is to keep spreading his "message". He is completely blind
> to the hypocrisy and inconsistency of what he writes - he really does
> think it is true. You can be sure that anyone after money would have
> moved on, looking for more fertile ground elsewhere - the economics of
> posting here don't make sense.
angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us. Typical technique of his
is being as boring, annoying, perturbing and groundlessly accusing as
possible. He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads. Sometimes
he posts outright nonsense directly or indirectly from parody sites and
when pointed at it then it is not his fault but of some other similar
idiot from YouTube. Why such people never fear that they misinterpret,
misrepresent and disservice their god? Brownie point from Jesus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNKMXkU09Iw
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 2:00:00 PM10/3/18
to
On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
Öö Tiib, what I do is this: I note that in every believer's life
> I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
there was a time before they were believers. People were doing and
saying the same kinds of anti-God things that each of you are doing.
Before I was saved, I was doing the same thing. It's to be expected
because of the nature of sin.
What I do is teach you the reasons why that happens, and the way out.
I do not troll you. I try and correct misunderstandings so the one
posting the mistake can hear the truth, that they might know the true
way per the guidance of the Bible, and then that truth has the oppor-
tunity to make that person free.
It is me being obedient to God, in doing outreach to people I care
about. It is me in hope and fasting and prayer that each of you
would come to believe in Jesus Christ, ask Him to forgive your sin,
and in so doing gain eternal life.
That really is my driving impetus. I seek to serve the Lord by
doing what He's commanded, that each of you may be with Him in
Heaven as well. It is called "the paradise of God" in scripture,
for what other domain would God have?
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 2:04:39 PM10/3/18
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On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
> posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
a relatively static forum like this. I can't hear the tone of your
voice, see your eyes, gauge your body language, observe your mood,
etc.
When people post things that are prompting by the enemy at work
within them, shall I cater to that enemy? That enemy's goals for
the questions people are asking are their host's soul's destruction.
They don't care about the truth or the host, they just want a body
to be in so they can move about in this world, rather than being in
their solitary isolated prison awaiting the day of their judgment.
So what I do is not cater to that evil spirit, but provide that
which the Lord commanded us to do ... a teaching.
I do not answer the direct question(s) designed to trap in their
responses, but rather bypass that trap and teach the truth so the
poster may hear it.
If God is at work within that person's heart, they will know. If
not, it will seem like evasion or something along the lines of
what you cite me as doing below.
> Sometimes
> he posts outright nonsense directly or indirectly from parody sites and
> when pointed at it then it is not his fault but of some other similar
> idiot from YouTube. Why such people never fear that they misinterpret,
> misrepresent and disservice their god? Brownie point from Jesus:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNKMXkU09Iw
them the way they are given, because you are being literally led
by that evil spirit influence, which keeps you pigeonholed in a
solid thinking against God, and you're absolutely sure you're
right in that, and will remain so until God Himself draws you out
of that darkness, and into His marvelous light (John 6:44).
It is for those souls who will be saved I respond as I do. I do
not respond for those who will not be saved.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Öö Tiib
Oct 3, 2018, 2:10:27 PM10/3/18
to
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:00:00 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> > angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
>
>
> Öö Tiib, what I do is this: I note that in every believer's life
> there was a time before they were believers. People were doing and
> saying the same kinds of anti-God things that each of you are doing.
Where I said anything against any gods? I wrote about you. You are not
> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> > angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
>
>
> Öö Tiib, what I do is this: I note that in every believer's life
> there was a time before they were believers. People were doing and
> saying the same kinds of anti-God things that each of you are doing.
god and will never be. By Buddhist religion you perhaps will reborn
as mosquitoes for next century as reward for trying to be so annoying
in this life.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 2:15:50 PM10/3/18
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little ones a drink of water, we were doing the same unto Him.
Likewise, when people attack and say hateful things about one
of His servants, they are doing the same to Him.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A34-41&version=KJV
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come,
==> ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for
you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty,
and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me:
I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw
we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee
drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked,
and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say
==> unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least
of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart
==> from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the
devil and his angels:
You do not understand what you don't understand, Öö Tiib, and be-
cause of sin you are unwilling to even hear the rest of it. That
will remain your fate until you turn away from what you think you
believe, and get to the place where you can say honestly in your
heart, "God, I don't know if you're real or not, but if you are
real, then I want to know the truth about it."
If you can get to that place being honest with yourself ... God
will do the rest.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 2:22:49 PM10/3/18
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On 10/3/2018 2:10 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> ...By Buddhist religion you perhaps will reborn
> as mosquitoes for next century as reward for trying to be so annoying
> in this life.
Satan is always at work to give people alternate hope in some false
> in this life.
thing. Buddhism teaches you will be reborn in another life based
on how you lived this one. Other religions teach other things.
Examine them. Try them out. Test them. Push into them. Seek to
learn the /FULL TRUTH/ about them. You'll see them for what they
are.
Napoleon did this (much to my surprise). He wrote this so elo-
quently:
-----[ Begin ]-----
https://biblehub.com/library/schaff/the_person_of_christ/napoleon_bonaparte.htm
About halfway down it shows His reply in English:
Napoleon replied: --
"I know men; and I tell you that Jesus Christ is not a man. Superficial minds
see a resemblance between Christ and the founders of empires, and the gods of
other religions. That resemblance does not exist. There is between
Christianity and whatever other religions the distance of infinity.
"We can say to the authors of every other religion, You are neither gods, nor
the agents of the Deity. You are but missionaries of falsehood, moulded from
the same clay with the rest of mortals. You are made with all the passions
and vices inseparable from them. Your temples and your priests proclaim your
origin.' Such will be the judgment, the cry of conscience, of whoever
examines the gods and the temples of paganism...
-----[ End ]-----
Jesus is not like others. If you press in and taste and see and
put Him to the test, He will reveal to you who He is in a way
you can receive.
Not all books are the same. Not all religions are the same. And
what I'm teaching you about Jesus is He is God Almighty, not just
a lower-case "g" god, for there are many of those, and they are
mighty. But they are not God Almighty, and they have /NO/ saving
power for your state of sin. That is Jesus' sole domain.
His name literally means "God who saves."
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Öö Tiib
Oct 3, 2018, 2:25:32 PM10/3/18
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On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:04:39 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
> > posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>
> It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
> a relatively static forum like this. I can't hear the tone of your
> voice, see your eyes, gauge your body language, observe your mood,
> etc.
>
> When people post things that are prompting by the enemy at work
> within them, shall I cater to that enemy? That enemy's goals for
> the questions people are asking are their host's soul's destruction.
> They don't care about the truth or the host, they just want a body
> to be in so they can move about in this world, rather than being in
> their solitary isolated prison awaiting the day of their judgment.
What enemy work? All the mistakes that I make are fully mine, I'm
> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
> > posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>
> It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
> a relatively static forum like this. I can't hear the tone of your
> voice, see your eyes, gauge your body language, observe your mood,
> etc.
>
> When people post things that are prompting by the enemy at work
> within them, shall I cater to that enemy? That enemy's goals for
> the questions people are asking are their host's soul's destruction.
> They don't care about the truth or the host, they just want a body
> to be in so they can move about in this world, rather than being in
> their solitary isolated prison awaiting the day of their judgment.
not possessed by no ghost nor do I believe stories about your devils
and demons. If you really think that all scientific-technological
progress is work of your demons then why you do not live like Amish,
work on field and ride around in buggy? Why you sit here in the
internet and annoy people? We here try to discuss and help each other
with complications of one of programming languages. It was man-made
and all mistakes in it were also man-made.
Öö Tiib
Oct 3, 2018, 2:34:48 PM10/3/18
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On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:15:50 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 2:10 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:00:00 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> >>> I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> >>> angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
> >>
> >> Öö Tiib, what I do is this: I note that in every believer's life
> >> there was a time before they were believers. People were doing and
> >> saying the same kinds of anti-God things that each of you are doing.
> >
> > Where I said anything against any gods? I wrote about you. You are not
> > god and will never be. By Buddhist religion you perhaps will reborn
> > as mosquitoes for next century as reward for trying to be so annoying
> > in this life.
>
> Jesus tells His disciples ...
> On 10/3/2018 2:10 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:00:00 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> >>> I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> >>> angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
> >>
> >> Öö Tiib, what I do is this: I note that in every believer's life
> >> there was a time before they were believers. People were doing and
> >> saying the same kinds of anti-God things that each of you are doing.
> >
> > Where I said anything against any gods? I wrote about you. You are not
> > god and will never be. By Buddhist religion you perhaps will reborn
> > as mosquitoes for next century as reward for trying to be so annoying
> > in this life.
>
You are not Jesus. You are a liar. Jesus have said nowhere that I did
say anything against him. You lied that I said something against him.
So do not preach about honesty.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 2:51:31 PM10/3/18
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On 10/3/2018 2:25 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> When people post things that are prompting by the enemy at work
>> within them, shall I cater to that enemy? That enemy's goals for
>> the questions people are asking are their host's soul's destruction.
>> They don't care about the truth or the host, they just want a body
>> to be in so they can move about in this world, rather than being in
>> their solitary isolated prison awaiting the day of their judgment.
>
> What enemy work?
I'll try to explain it from Sci-Fi movie point of view.
>> When people post things that are prompting by the enemy at work
>> within them, shall I cater to that enemy? That enemy's goals for
>> the questions people are asking are their host's soul's destruction.
>> They don't care about the truth or the host, they just want a body
>> to be in so they can move about in this world, rather than being in
>> their solitary isolated prison awaiting the day of their judgment.
>
> What enemy work?
Consider a world in some galaxy where people are living on it. An
alien race develops a technology whereby they can leave their own
solar system and travel the stars. They come upon this planet and
use their technology to leave their physical bodily form and go out
in their consciousness, to then go into the people on that planet
and either take over or influence those people.
We saw something like this on an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise,
in the episode called "Crossing Over" (I think that's its name).
In any event, Trip was the first one taken over in that show, and
this non-corporeal being was able to enter his body and then see
and hear and touch and taste and speak through Trip's body. Trip
left at the same time, so it was like an exchange.
There are enemy's of God who have these kinds of abilities. They
are the fallen angels (1/3rd of the angels followed after Satan
when he fell, and they are all locked in chains awaiting the day
of judgment, which is why we don't see those demons flying around
the Earth today). However, their spirit can leave their body be-
cause their bodies are already eternal. They won't die if the
spirit leaves, unlike our bodies.
So, they leave their bodies and seek out our physical bodies
to inhabit.
This is done to all people world-wide continuously, which is why
there is so much evil in the world. These evil spirits are teach-
ing people alternate ways of doing things (alternate from God's
own teachings), all of which lead to some form of steal, kill,
destroy the things of God, the riches of this world God gave us.
People are unaware of this influence because they cannot discern
the spirit component of their attacks, but they only feel the
effects of those attacks.
You can listen to pop stars and major influences in TV, movies,
music, and media. They will occasionally give interviews about
this thing that enters into their body and guides them.
> All the mistakes that I make are fully mine,
them to. If we stay holy and pure and follow after God always,
we are free from their influence, which is what Jesus did when
He was on this Earth in bodily form. He never sinned, so when
He went to the cross He could take on all sin and die with it
in our place. This was actually /WHY/ He came here to the Earth
as one of us, and not as His full glory God self.
> I'm
> not possessed by no ghost
the sin you've committed in your life. You've let them in, and
they inhabit your thoughts, they give you amped up feelings,
alternate feelings, amped up emotions, alternate emotions, and
they inject thoughts and ideas into your own mind.
Not everything /YOU/ do comes from /YOU/. Some of the things
/YOUR BODY/ does come from their influence. In fact, if you
ever become a Christian and that evil spirit influence is cast
out, you'll be amazed at how much you change because it is
then just you again, and not that evil influence that so subtly
crept in there ... remember it was a serpent who entered in to
the garden. How subtle are snakes? They sneak in silently,
and you don't know they're there ... until they attack.
> nor do I believe stories about your devils
> and demons.
stories, because then they're easy to dismiss, and they can
continue on in their plans with you and others unaware of
their existence. But, they are most assuredly real. They are
so invasive in people's lives, by the way, that if you could
see them it would look like a cloud of pollution hovering over
every place where people are gathered, and like Pig Pen from
Charlie Brown in how they follow around each person.
> If you really think that all scientific-technological
> progress is work of your demons then why you do not live like Amish,
used their spiritual influence in people of power and high
position to cause their goals to be achieved, even with
their own hosts being unaware of the true plan and intention,
such as the LHC ... I am convinced that LHC is some kind of
gateway which has weakend something in the Earth's crust,
allowing evil spirits to come out in numbers not possible
before, because only very strong ones could come out of
their prison before, but now these incredibly powerful mag-
nets have opened up a hole or a portal or something which
allows those spirits to come out, which is why the world
is so rapidly getting worse in the past several years.
Also, the movie Ghostbusters had a theme in it where you
crossed the streams to seal up the ghosts. I believe this
was a type of code that was done in reverse, so that you
do not cross the streams to keep them in, but cross the
streams to let them out, those streams being what we have
seen in the LHC and other super-collider's paths which
cross particles for collision.
The movie was called "Ghostbusters" ... and I believe there
are other movies which convey similar things. It's like
a way to broadcast your intentions, yet without revealing
it in real ways. In fact, I'd even argue that the evil
spirits at work in this world /HAVE/ to do this, which is
why they do it in movie form, so it's broadcast if you
know what to look for, but when you don't it just seems
like a movie.
I could be wrong about all of that, but there is much evi-
dence to support it, as you can see from the way the world
has changed in the past 100 years, and in what stages it
has changed as things have been accumulating over time.
> work on field and ride around in buggy? Why you sit here in the
> internet and annoy people? We here try to discuss and help each other
> with complications of one of programming languages.
over programming will take a backseat when you leave this
world with your own sin still charged to you.
I want to discuss programming. I like designing software
and hardware. I want to do those things. But, I do them
for Christ first, and then for other purposes second.
And I want each of you to have eternal life. I want you
to be forgiven for your sin so you can also talk about
programming, but to do it for Christ as well.
I want His Kingdom on Earth as it is in Heaven, and to
be that way by my choices, the things I do, the ways I
make purposeful choices to go, etc.
> It was man-made
> and all mistakes in it were also man-made.
times "knowledge would increase and people would go to
and fro." We are seeing that transformation in our world
in these last 150 years. The simple advances, the tele-
graph, the steam engine, internal combustion engines,
the telephone, the Internet.... it's all been building up
to this system we have today.
It's been planned from the beginning of creation, and it
was foretold in scripture by God, not in details, but in
concepts.
The end-times are here. We don't know how much time we
have left, but until that final day comes, I will cont-
inue to teach people about Jesus, because up until the
day He calls us out of this world ... people can still
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 2:55:48 PM10/3/18
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A34-41&version=KJV
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say
==> unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least
of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my
brethren, ye have done it unto me."
These are His words, not mine. They refer to the things done in
service to Him, and we learn from other scripture that they also
include the things done against Him.
Here's another translation to look at:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A34-41&version=NIV
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Öö Tiib
Oct 3, 2018, 3:12:38 PM10/3/18
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On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:55:48 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 2:34 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:15:50 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> On 10/3/2018 2:10 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:00:00 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>>> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> >>>>> I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> >>>>> angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
> >>>>
> >>>> Öö Tiib, what I do is this: I note that in every believer's life
> >>>> there was a time before they were believers. People were doing and
> >>>> saying the same kinds of anti-God things that each of you are doing.
> >>>
> >>> Where I said anything against any gods? I wrote about you. You are not
> >>> god and will never be. By Buddhist religion you perhaps will reborn
> >>> as mosquitoes for next century as reward for trying to be so annoying
> >>> in this life.
> >>
> >> Jesus tells His disciples ...
> >
> > You are not Jesus. You are a liar. Jesus have said nowhere that I did
> > say anything against him. You lied that I said something against him.
> > So do not preach about honesty.
>
> I just quoted the part where He did say that. You edited it out:
>
> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A34-41&version=KJV
>
> 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say
> ==> unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least
> of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
> On 10/3/2018 2:34 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:15:50 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> On 10/3/2018 2:10 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:00:00 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>>> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> >>>>> I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
> >>>>> angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us.
> >>>>
> >>>> Öö Tiib, what I do is this: I note that in every believer's life
> >>>> there was a time before they were believers. People were doing and
> >>>> saying the same kinds of anti-God things that each of you are doing.
> >>>
> >>> Where I said anything against any gods? I wrote about you. You are not
> >>> god and will never be. By Buddhist religion you perhaps will reborn
> >>> as mosquitoes for next century as reward for trying to be so annoying
> >>> in this life.
> >>
> >> Jesus tells His disciples ...
> >
> > You are not Jesus. You are a liar. Jesus have said nowhere that I did
> > say anything against him. You lied that I said something against him.
> > So do not preach about honesty.
>
> I just quoted the part where He did say that. You edited it out:
>
> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A34-41&version=KJV
>
> 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say
> ==> unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least
> of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
and when? That is defamation. I am programmer, not some sort of criminal.
I have just honestly said what I think about your behavior. And you are
clearly liar who thinks he is holy and therefore your lies are also holy.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 3:21:47 PM10/3/18
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On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
> and when? That is defamation.
Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
> I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
> and when? That is defamation.
falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
> I am programmer, not some sort of criminal.
sinned in some areas, which makes us being guilty of all of the
whole Law.
A person who's done everything right in their entire life, even
helping build orphanages, and feeding the homeless, and donating
his/her time to causes and science and everything else, yet if
that person were to commit one murder, they would not be innocent
by their other good deeds. They would be guilty by their one sin.
Have you ever told a lie?
Have you ever had lustful thoughts after someone who was not
your spouse?
Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain (used His name as a
cuss / swear word)?
And there are over 600 separate laws that God gave Moses, and
are still in effect for man. The book of Leviticus was to de-
scribe how sinful man could approach Holy God. It is a ritual
to go through, and even then it's not a one-time deal, it must
be done anew each time to appear before God.
What Jesus did was come and fulfill that law, to give us a New
Covenant in His blood, so that we are set free from that Law,
but He becomes a new type of Law within us by His own Holy
Spirit guidance. We simply move differently in this world aft-
er being saved. Our polarity is reversed.
> I have just honestly said what I think about your behavior. And you are
> clearly liar who thinks he is holy and therefore your lies are also holy.
other lower-case "g" gods. That makes you a blasphemer of God,
it places you in rebellion against Him, and it makes you one
with a false accusation against me, stemming from that sin-
induced hate in your heart for God spilling out into all of the
things of God.
If you want to see an objective view / assessment of where you
have erred, start reading the New Testament. Compare your own
actions in daily life, on these forums, in your thoughts, to
the teachings of Christ.
/DO NOT/ compare them to my teachings, or what you think I've
written. Compare them directly to that Bible you can buy in
your local store. And make sure you get a good translation,
and not a modern one because there are ancient texts the vari-
ous translations came from. The King James Bible came from
what's called "The Majority Text" which was where over 99.4%
of the 5,000 manuscripts they had in their possession at the
time it was written (1603-1611) agreed with one another. The
number of manuscripts in agreement today have been discovered
to be around 30,000 in the 2000s.
Many of the new modern Bibles take cues from the non-majority
texts, and these teach markedly different things, indicating
they were purposeful attempts a perverting the true word of
God.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Scott Lurndal
Oct 3, 2018, 3:29:05 PM10/3/18
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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
>On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
>> posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>
>It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
>a relatively static forum like this.
THEN DON'T DO IT!
>> ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
>> posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>
>It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
>a relatively static forum like this.
The definition of insanity is repeating the same action expecting
different results.
Ian Collins
Oct 3, 2018, 3:48:33 PM10/3/18
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On 04/10/18 07:04, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
>> posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>
> It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
> a relatively static forum like this.
Yet more nonsense. Open minded Christians embrace and discuss science,
> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
>> posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>
> It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
> a relatively static forum like this.
which is one reason very few are young Earth creationists. If you had
the courage of your convictions, you would do the same rather than
simply parroting dogma.
--
Ian.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 3:50:22 PM10/3/18
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I am more than content to teach you the Christian perspective on
any and all science discoveries. These will nearly all necessarily
contradict mainstream teaching found in worldly sources (those that
do not credit things back to Jesus Christ as the creator).
What would you like to be taught about today?
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 4:07:55 PM10/3/18
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X, Y, or Z, will come to faith when witnessed to? Does wit-
nessing every lead to conversion? Sure it does. I was wit-
nessed to by someone at my place of employment, and his wil-
lingness to help me in answering my many questions led to me
coming to faith in late July, 2004.
Prior to that, I would've laughed you to scorn if you told
me I was going to be a born again Christian. I would've
mocked you for even believing that such a thing as "born
again" exists. I would've told you that "Christianity is
fine for those who want/need that crutch, but that you do
not need any kind of god to be a good, moral person."
It wasn't until the change happened to me, and I was born
again, and I did see through new spiritual eyes, that I
then realized how wrong I'd been. The blindness I had from
sin prevented me from seeing it.
The spirit reveals what the flesh cannot know, Scott. It
is for that future hope that I persist, not for those who
will never come to believe.
--
Rick c. Hodgin
Ian Collins
Oct 3, 2018, 4:14:04 PM10/3/18
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On 04/10/18 08:50, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 3:48 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 04/10/18 07:04, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>>> ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
>>>> posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>>>
>>> It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
>>> a relatively static forum like this.
>>
>> Yet more nonsense. Open minded Christians embrace and discuss science, which
>> is one reason very few are young Earth creationists. If you had the courage
>> of your convictions, you would do the same rather than simply parroting dogma.
>
> You completely misunderstand what I post, Ian.
>
> I am more than content to teach you the Christian perspective on
> any and all science discoveries.
You are not "teach the Christian perspective" conscience, you repeat the
> On 10/3/2018 3:48 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 04/10/18 07:04, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 1:46 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>>> ...He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
>>>> posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads.
>>>
>>> It's a very difficult thing for a Christian to approach people in
>>> a relatively static forum like this.
>>
>> Yet more nonsense. Open minded Christians embrace and discuss science, which
>> is one reason very few are young Earth creationists. If you had the courage
>> of your convictions, you would do the same rather than simply parroting dogma.
>
> You completely misunderstand what I post, Ian.
>
> I am more than content to teach you the Christian perspective on
> any and all science discoveries.
young Earth creationist perspective, such as the nonsense about dinosaur
soft tissue and fossils.
--
Ian.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 4:25:09 PM10/3/18
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The Earth was created 6,000 years ago. The DNA which exists in
the fossil record would've come from within that time. It would
still be very rare to find extinct species in the fossil layers
with in tact DNA, because they would've died around the time of
the flood. Any in-tact DNA would likely come from those animals
which existed after the flood and died many years later. The
flood was about 4,400 years ago.
The reason Creation Scientists teach the DNA could not have come
from dinosaurs living millions of years ago is because of the ex-
tremely fragile nature of DNA. It cannot last more than a few
thousand years under ideal conditions, and typically not more
than a few hundred years even in excellent conditions. It will
break into fragments.
The soft tissue discoveries had not only DNA, but also blood
cells, collagen, and it had in-tact structure and form.
We've also seen direct evidence that fossilization can take
place in a very short period of time.
-----
You should watch that video I posted on dinosaurs. It shows
lots of proof throughout history that dinosaurs existed with
man, and that you cannot trust the fossil evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQIF7Yh3hI
You'll find so many records showing how human being scared
into stone, plates of metal, sides of buildings, ornate cloth-
ing buried with leaders who fell in the 0 a.d to 1,000 a.d.
timeframe, showing images of dinosaurs. They even have what
they looked like with their skin patterns.
You've been lied to, Ian. I'm trying to teach you the truth.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 4:30:44 PM10/3/18
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On 10/3/2018 4:25 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> You should watch that video I posted on dinosaurs. It shows
> lots of proof throughout history that dinosaurs existed with
> man, and that you cannot trust the fossil evidence:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQIF7Yh3hI
>
> You'll find so many records showing how human being scared
Wow. That should've been "...how human beings carved..."
> You should watch that video I posted on dinosaurs. It shows
> lots of proof throughout history that dinosaurs existed with
> man, and that you cannot trust the fossil evidence:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQIF7Yh3hI
>
> You'll find so many records showing how human being scared
Ian Collins
Oct 3, 2018, 4:37:54 PM10/3/18
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On 04/10/18 09:25, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> The Earth was created 6,000 years ago. The DNA which exists in
> the fossil record would've come from within that time. It would
> still be very rare to find extinct species in the fossil layers
> with in tact DNA, because they would've died around the time of
> the flood. Any in-tact DNA would likely come from those animals
> which existed after the flood and died many years later. The
> flood was about 4,400 years ago.
>
> The reason Creation Scientists teach the DNA could not have come
> from dinosaurs living millions of years ago is because of the ex-
> tremely fragile nature of DNA. It cannot last more than a few
> thousand years under ideal conditions, and typically not more
> than a few hundred years even in excellent conditions. It will
> break into fragments.
>
> The soft tissue discoveries had not only DNA, but also blood
> cells, collagen, and it had in-tact structure and form.
This has all be been well and truly debunked:
>
> The Earth was created 6,000 years ago. The DNA which exists in
> the fossil record would've come from within that time. It would
> still be very rare to find extinct species in the fossil layers
> with in tact DNA, because they would've died around the time of
> the flood. Any in-tact DNA would likely come from those animals
> which existed after the flood and died many years later. The
> flood was about 4,400 years ago.
>
> The reason Creation Scientists teach the DNA could not have come
> from dinosaurs living millions of years ago is because of the ex-
> tremely fragile nature of DNA. It cannot last more than a few
> thousand years under ideal conditions, and typically not more
> than a few hundred years even in excellent conditions. It will
> break into fragments.
>
> The soft tissue discoveries had not only DNA, but also blood
> cells, collagen, and it had in-tact structure and form.
https://letterstocreationists.wordpress.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue/
A good quote from that paper:
"Growing up with a conservative Christian background, she [Mary
Schweitzer] had believed that the secular science establishment promotes
themes like evolution out of a desire to discredit biblical faith.
However, when she took an actual paleontology class, she saw things
differently [27]:
I think the thing that surprised me most about that class was that I had
no idea, coming from a conservative Christian background, that
scientists are not all trying to disprove God in whatever way they can.
What we were not told growing up is that there’s a lot of very rigorous,
hard science that allows us to interpret the lives of organisms we’ve
never seen—and knowing this made me rethink a few things, because I know
God and God is not a deceiver. If you step back a little bit and let God
be God I don’t think there’s any contradiction at all between the Bible
and what we see in nature. He is under no obligation to meet our
expectations. He is bigger than that."
--
Ian.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 4:54:30 PM10/3/18
to
On 10/3/2018 4:37 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 04/10/18 09:25, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>
>> The Earth was created 6,000 years ago. The DNA which exists in
>> the fossil record would've come from within that time. It would
>> still be very rare to find extinct species in the fossil layers
>> with in tact DNA, because they would've died around the time of
>> the flood. Any in-tact DNA would likely come from those animals
>> which existed after the flood and died many years later. The
>> flood was about 4,400 years ago.
>>
>> The reason Creation Scientists teach the DNA could not have come
>> from dinosaurs living millions of years ago is because of the ex-
>> tremely fragile nature of DNA. It cannot last more than a few
>> thousand years under ideal conditions, and typically not more
>> than a few hundred years even in excellent conditions. It will
>> break into fragments.
>>
>> The soft tissue discoveries had not only DNA, but also blood
>> cells, collagen, and it had in-tact structure and form.
>
> This has all be been well and truly debunked:
>
> https://letterstocreationists.wordpress.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue/
>
> A good quote from that paper:
>
> "Growing up with a conservative Christian background, she [Mary Schweitzer]
> had believed that the secular science establishment promotes themes like
> evolution out of a desire to discredit biblical faith. However, when she took
> an actual paleontology class, she saw things differently [27]:
Many people's faith is destroyed by modern school entities, in-
> On 04/10/18 09:25, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>
>> The Earth was created 6,000 years ago. The DNA which exists in
>> the fossil record would've come from within that time. It would
>> still be very rare to find extinct species in the fossil layers
>> with in tact DNA, because they would've died around the time of
>> the flood. Any in-tact DNA would likely come from those animals
>> which existed after the flood and died many years later. The
>> flood was about 4,400 years ago.
>>
>> The reason Creation Scientists teach the DNA could not have come
>> from dinosaurs living millions of years ago is because of the ex-
>> tremely fragile nature of DNA. It cannot last more than a few
>> thousand years under ideal conditions, and typically not more
>> than a few hundred years even in excellent conditions. It will
>> break into fragments.
>>
>> The soft tissue discoveries had not only DNA, but also blood
>> cells, collagen, and it had in-tact structure and form.
>
> This has all be been well and truly debunked:
>
> https://letterstocreationists.wordpress.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue/
>
> A good quote from that paper:
>
> "Growing up with a conservative Christian background, she [Mary Schweitzer]
> had believed that the secular science establishment promotes themes like
> evolution out of a desire to discredit biblical faith. However, when she took
> an actual paleontology class, she saw things differently [27]:
cluding textbooks, teachers, professors.
> I think the thing that surprised me most about that class was that I had no
> idea, coming from a conservative Christian background, that scientists are
> not all trying to disprove God in whatever way they can. What we were not
> told growing up is that there’s a lot of very rigorous, hard science that
> allows us to interpret the lives of organisms we’ve never seen—and knowing
> this made me rethink a few things, because I know God and God is not a
> deceiver. If you step back a little bit and let God be God I don’t think
> there’s any contradiction at all between the Bible and what we see in nature.
> He is under no obligation to meet our expectations. He is bigger than that."
evil spirits within them.
Many people are servants of Satan (literally) without knowing about
it. They move for the reasons the evil spirits put into their
thoughts, which are not the reasons why the evil spirits are moving,
but they are "using" the person to accomplish their goal, without
them knowing about it.
Sin always leads to "steal, kill, destroy" in some form.
The Bible warns also about "science falsely so-called," and teaches
us to maintain our faith in the light of what appears to be contra-
dictory evidence.
One such example of where this has borne fruit is in the area of
genetics research. The study of DNA has revealed so much com-
plexity that it could not have come about by random chance. It
was clearly, clearly, clearly designed.
Christians have said that all alone, and now science has finally
caught up and revealed enough through technology to say yes, it
is designed.
Stalwarts will continue to say it is not designed, but it is so
obvious. There are single DNA encoding sequences that are used
in 12-different functions, encoding the same DNA to RNA through
an editor, which removes certain parts here, and not there, and
uses certain encodings here, and not there, such that if you
were to alter even one gene in those sequences, one of the 12
things it relates to would cease to function, and the organism
would be non-viable.
It's like having a 12-way crossword puzzle. One letter out of
place and the entire thing collapses.
It is a number so far beyond the number of atoms that exist in
the universe that it came about by random chance. It makes it
impossible in all but the absolute most extreme view.
And when you factor in the diversity of life, the beauty, the
form and purpose, the inherent single-designer signature found
in all of it ... it's obvious we were designed.
I could not see it before I came to faith. Now it's obvious. I
imagine it will be the same for everyone until they're saved.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 4:57:01 PM10/3/18
to
On 10/3/2018 4:54 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The Bible warns also about "science falsely so-called," and teaches
> us to maintain our faith in the light of what appears to be contra-
> dictory evidence.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+6%3A19-21&version=KJV
> The Bible warns also about "science falsely so-called," and teaches
> us to maintain our faith in the light of what appears to be contra-
> dictory evidence.
19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation
against the time to come, that they may lay hold on
eternal life.
20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions
of science falsely so called:
21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
Grace be with thee. Amen.
It's interesting Paul places that "oppositions of science falsely
so called" in there with profanity and vain babblings. :-)
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Öö Tiib
Oct 3, 2018, 5:03:55 PM10/3/18
to
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
> > and when? That is defamation.
>
> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
So criticizing you is wrong? Where is it written that Rick C. Hodgin
> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
> > and when? That is defamation.
>
> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
is infallible or even holy and so criticizing him is crime or even
blasphemy? You are just like the rest of self-righteous liars who
pretend something that they are not.
> > I am programmer, not some sort of criminal.
>
Yes, sure, I have done several things inconsiderately or carelessly or
mislead others out of vanity or bride. But I always regret because I
consider that I did not make our world better place. That does not give
you any rights to lie that I have done something bad to you.
> And there are over 600 separate laws that God gave Moses, and
> are still in effect for man.
by that book. So I haven't given any orders nor ways to wash my sins
with blood sacrifices like Jews in that book. Therefore I just try to
live my life decently.
> > I have just honestly said what I think about your behavior. And you are
> > clearly liar who thinks he is holy and therefore your lies are also holy.
>
> You have denied God.
said that god has all rights to do whatever god wants to do and can
request anything from me anytime.
> You have compared the Christian God to other lower-case "g" gods.
and Jews, and that the Scriptures given to Christians and Jews were
correct, and Messiah was sent and yet it did not help Jews and
Christians who are still disobedient. I have not lied, search Quran
translation and read 29.46 and 29.47. But Quran is also not written
for me but for Arabs.
> That makes you a blasphemer of God,
> it places you in rebellion against Him, and it makes you one
> with a false accusation against me, stemming from that sin-
> induced hate in your heart for God spilling out into all of the
> things of God.
And yes, you are liar who thinks himself being holy. You are not
god. Sure, I have read Bible, there's nowhere said that you are
holy; god owns you nothing. I don't have any reason to hate god.
And I can't hate even you, Rick, being stupid is usual, being
annoying is usual and being liar is also usual. It just makes you
boring, untrustworthy and not charming ... that's it.
Ian Collins
Oct 3, 2018, 5:10:05 PM10/3/18
to
referring to something completely different.
--
Ian.
Ian Collins
Oct 3, 2018, 5:17:10 PM10/3/18
to
will be destroyed.
>> I think the thing that surprised me most about that class was that I had no
>> idea, coming from a conservative Christian background, that scientists are
>> not all trying to disprove God in whatever way they can. What we were not
>> told growing up is that there’s a lot of very rigorous, hard science that
>> allows us to interpret the lives of organisms we’ve never seen—and knowing
>> this made me rethink a few things, because I know God and God is not a
>> deceiver. If you step back a little bit and let God be God I don’t think
>> there’s any contradiction at all between the Bible and what we see in nature.
>> He is under no obligation to meet our expectations. He is bigger than that."
>
> It isn't the teachers that are always trying to do this. It's the
> evil spirits within them.
what Schweitzer has to say, her core faith is undamaged by the truth.
> One such example of where this has borne fruit is in the area of
> genetics research. The study of DNA has revealed so much com-
> plexity that it could not have come about by random chance. It
> was clearly, clearly, clearly designed.
time-frame, but over 100s of millions of years? Read up on probability.
--
Ian.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 5:24:46 PM10/3/18
to
On 10/3/2018 5:03 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>> I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>>> and when? That is defamation.
>>
>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>
> So criticizing you is wrong? Where is it written that Rick C. Hodgin
> is infallible or even holy and so criticizing him is crime or even
> blasphemy? You are just like the rest of self-righteous liars who
> pretend something that they are not.
It's the content and the way you criticize me, which is because I
> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>> I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>>> and when? That is defamation.
>>
>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>
> So criticizing you is wrong? Where is it written that Rick C. Hodgin
> is infallible or even holy and so criticizing him is crime or even
> blasphemy? You are just like the rest of self-righteous liars who
> pretend something that they are not.
am teaching you about the author of the universe.
>>> I am programmer, not some sort of criminal.
>>
>> The Bible teaches ...
>
> Yes, sure, I have done several things inconsiderately or carelessly or
> mislead others out of vanity or bride. But I always regret because I
> consider that I did not make our world better place. That does not give
> you any rights to lie that I have done something bad to you.
ethical, hard-working people in Hell. It has to do with whether
or not your sin was forgiven. Not other things.
>> And there are over 600 separate laws that God gave Moses, and
>> are still in effect for man.
>
> These laws were given to the Chosen Nation, Jews not to me, "gentile",
> by that book. So I haven't given any orders nor ways to wash my sins
> with blood sacrifices like Jews in that book. Therefore I just try to
> live my life decently.
Öö Tiib. Many of those people who lived in areas where Jesus
was never taught will still be saved, because they heard His
voice calling them in their heart, and they answered and follow-
ed Him. But unless they are of that spirit, and you will know
them by their fruit, it will not be so for others.
>>> I have just honestly said what I think about your behavior. And you are
>>> clearly liar who thinks he is holy and therefore your lies are also holy.
>>
>> You have denied God.
>
> Where? I have only shown several times that you are liar. I have always
> said that god has all rights to do whatever god wants to do and can
> request anything from me anytime.
of where I have lied on anything.
You have said today:
-----[ Begin ]-----
I think he believes that he gets more brownie points when people are
angry at him. Therefore he tries to troll us. Typical technique of his
is being as boring, annoying, perturbing and groundlessly accusing as
possible. He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads. Sometimes
he posts outright nonsense directly or indirectly from parody sites and
when pointed at it then it is not his fault but of some other similar
idiot from YouTube. Why such people never fear that they misinterpret,
misrepresent and disservice their god? Brownie point from Jesus:
-----[ End ]-----
is being as boring, annoying, perturbing and groundlessly accusing as
possible. He does never answer any questions, he ignores what was
posted and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads. Sometimes
he posts outright nonsense directly or indirectly from parody sites and
when pointed at it then it is not his fault but of some other similar
idiot from YouTube. Why such people never fear that they misinterpret,
misrepresent and disservice their god? Brownie point from Jesus:
"Therefore he tries to troll us." -- I do not troll anyone. I
am legitimately teaching. Every one of my posts has that same
teaching position.
"Typical technique of his is being as boring, annoying, perturbing
things which are described directly and exactly in scripture. I
can back up everything I've posted about anything I've posted in
the area of Christianity or observing people's behavior as being
sin with Bible verses.
"He does never answer any questions," -- I answer many questions.
I do not always give the exact answer the person intended, but I
judge things by multiple factors, not just reading posts and then
issuing replies. I discern intents behind certain posts, and have
to address those intents, because the author of the things being
written are not just the sole individual, but also the evil spirits
they've let in guiding their thoughts toward certain questions,
etc. It is truly an extreme maneuver to do well consistently, and
it is very difficult to do it right. I stand by the things I have
written, and I will back up anything brought into question with
direct verses of scripture.
"he ignores what was posted..." -- I do not ignore what was posted.
I may miss things because I can't read every post on the Usenet
groups I subscribe to all the time. But I do not ignore anything
I read. It's as I say, I am discerning more than just the raw
words on the posts. There is spiritual movement behind them. It's
why I spend time responding to some extremely vulgar people like
Leigh and Peter Cheung, and others I discard and do not reply to
at all for far lesser "offenses" (by outward appearance). The
spirit guides the Christian from within, and there are times we
know to be silent. It's not an ignoring, however.
"...and deliberately misunderstands the little he reads." -- I do
not deliberately misunderstand anything. I do often misunderstand
things I read due to dyslexia, but when called on it I correct it.
You have written so many lies about me today, calling me in my
service to God everything except a servant of God. Do you see
this?
>> You have compared the Christian God to other lower-case "g" gods.
>
> Where? I have written that by Quran Allah is same god of Christians
> and Jews, and that the Scriptures given to Christians and Jews were
> correct, and Messiah was sent and yet it did not help Jews and
> Christians who are still disobedient. I have not lied, search Quran
> translation and read 29.46 and 29.47. But Quran is also not written
> for me but for Arabs.
"Why such people never fear that they misinterpret, misrepresent
and disservice their god?"
You brought the entirety of religious deities into one grouping
and disservice their god?"
there and used the lower-case "g" "god" identifier.
God Almighty, the God of the Bible, is not on par with other gods.
Other gods exist, but all of them were created. None of them are
the Alpha and the Omega, the Great I AM, the eternal God who was,
and is, and is to come, the Almighty.
What I am trying to teach you is that distinction a) exists, b)
is completely real, and c) is non-trivial. God is who God is,
and He deserves to be recognized for who He is.
>> That makes you a blasphemer of God,
>> it places you in rebellion against Him, and it makes you one
>> with a false accusation against me, stemming from that sin-
>> induced hate in your heart for God spilling out into all of the
>> things of God.
>
> How can I ever rebel against god? God can do whatever he pleases.
> And yes, you are liar who thinks himself being holy. You are not
> god. Sure, I have read Bible, there's nowhere said that you are
> holy; god owns you nothing. I don't have any reason to hate god.
> And I can't hate even you, Rick, being stupid is usual, being
> annoying is usual and being liar is also usual. It just makes you
> boring, untrustworthy and not charming ... that's it.
in rebellion against God.
You know in your heart you have sin. You've heard the teaching
that all men everywhere are now called to repent and come to
Jesus asking forgiveness for their sin ... yet you will not do
it. At least not yet.
Jesus said:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+12%3A30&version=KJV
30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that
gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
By His own teaching, since you are not with Him, you are directly
against Him and scattering abroad. You are in full rebellion a-
gainst Him, and will suffer the wrath of that rebellion on Judgment
Day.
/IT'S WHY I TEACH YOU ABOUT THIS TODAY/ ... because today you can
still be saved. After you leave this world /IT WILL/ be too late.
And no one knows when they're leaving this world. One unexpected
health issue, and it's all over.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 5:26:17 PM10/3/18
to
Paul to write what He wrote. As such, the spirit of God wrote it
for multiple audiences over time.
Given also that in Daniel the angel had already told Daniel that
in the end-times knowledge would increase and people would go to
and fro ... it's a natural continuation of the original prophesy.
And what they had back then in terms of science still serves as
much of the foundation for what we have today. Many forms of
math are credited back to people B.C.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Ian Collins
Oct 3, 2018, 5:32:53 PM10/3/18
to
On 04/10/18 10:26, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 5:09 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 04/10/18 09:56, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 4:54 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> The Bible warns also about "science falsely so-called," and teaches
>>>> us to maintain our faith in the light of what appears to be contra-
>>>> dictory evidence.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+6%3A19-21&version=KJV
>>>
>>> 19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation
>>> against the time to come, that they may lay hold on
>>> eternal life.
>>> 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
>>> avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions
>>> of science falsely so called:
>>> 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
>>> Grace be with thee. Amen.
>>>
>>> It's interesting Paul places that "oppositions of science falsely
>>> so called" in there with profanity and vain babblings. :-)
>>
>> Science as we know didn't exist back in biblical times. They would be
>> referring to something completely different.
>
> It wasn't Paul writing that. It was the spirit of God prompting
> Paul to write what He wrote. As such, the spirit of God wrote it
> for multiple audiences over time.
That's a half arsed cop out. They would even have had a word for science.
> On 10/3/2018 5:09 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 04/10/18 09:56, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 4:54 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> The Bible warns also about "science falsely so-called," and teaches
>>>> us to maintain our faith in the light of what appears to be contra-
>>>> dictory evidence.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+6%3A19-21&version=KJV
>>>
>>> 19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation
>>> against the time to come, that they may lay hold on
>>> eternal life.
>>> 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
>>> avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions
>>> of science falsely so called:
>>> 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
>>> Grace be with thee. Amen.
>>>
>>> It's interesting Paul places that "oppositions of science falsely
>>> so called" in there with profanity and vain babblings. :-)
>>
>> Science as we know didn't exist back in biblical times. They would be
>> referring to something completely different.
>
> It wasn't Paul writing that. It was the spirit of God prompting
> Paul to write what He wrote. As such, the spirit of God wrote it
> for multiple audiences over time.
> And what they had back then in terms of science still serves as
> much of the foundation for what we have today. Many forms of
> math are credited back to people B.C.
much later.
--
Ian.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 5:33:01 PM10/3/18
to
person to rightly understand the things around Him. He
then calls people to stand up for Him and reclaim what the
enemy tried to steal, for the enemy always only comes to
steal, kill, destroy.
>>> I think the thing that surprised me most about that class was that I had no
>>> idea, coming from a conservative Christian background, that scientists are
>>> not all trying to disprove God in whatever way they can. What we were not
>>> told growing up is that there’s a lot of very rigorous, hard science that
>>> allows us to interpret the lives of organisms we’ve never seen—and knowing
>>> this made me rethink a few things, because I know God and God is not a
>>> deceiver. If you step back a little bit and let God be God I don’t think
>>> there’s any contradiction at all between the Bible and what we see in nature.
>>> He is under no obligation to meet our expectations. He is bigger than that."
>>
>> It isn't the teachers that are always trying to do this. It's the
>> evil spirits within them.
>
> There you go again, can't face the truth and fall back on "sin"... Read what
> Schweitzer has to say, her core faith is undamaged by the truth.
find evidence. Why do people have road rage? Why can't people
stop the addiction they can't stand being a part of their life?
Why are some people willing to destroy their marriage for a
fling, when they know it's wrong.
We are all tempted, lured, prompted, continually by evil spirits
to do bad things. They want us in sin, a doorway to them moving
us in this world.
It's before you, Ian. It's obvious if you will get past your
first denial and seek the truth objectively.
>> One such example of where this has borne fruit is in the area of
>> genetics research. The study of DNA has revealed so much com-
>> plexity that it could not have come about by random chance. It
>> was clearly, clearly, clearly designed.
>
> Such complexity that couldn't have come about by random chance in your
> time-frame, but over 100s of millions of years? Read up on probability.
coming into existence is. It's 10^(340,000,000) power for a
single cell to come about by undirected natural processes.
The probability of a single protein coming into existence by
random chance is 10^164 power.
There are only 10^80 atoms in the entire universe.
At 35:23:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vBqYDBW5s&t=35m23s
It is absolutely impossible for all life on Earth to have
evolved from the Big Bang + aftermath.
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Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 3, 2018, 5:35:18 PM10/3/18
to
to believe the things of God, and were seeking to understand things
in worldly forms.
It's written about in the Book of Acts, by the way, if you want to
read it.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Melzzzzz
Oct 3, 2018, 6:25:40 PM10/3/18
to
On 2018-10-03, Öö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> > I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>> > and when? That is defamation.
>>
>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>
> So criticizing you is wrong?
Same old. Rick is insane, no point in discussing anything with insane
> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> > I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>> > and when? That is defamation.
>>
>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>
> So criticizing you is wrong?
person.
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Ian Collins
Oct 4, 2018, 3:01:57 AM10/4/18
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On 04/10/18 10:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 5:16 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 04/10/18 09:54, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 4:37 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>
>>>> I think the thing that surprised me most about that class was that I had no
>>>> idea, coming from a conservative Christian background, that scientists are
>>>> not all trying to disprove God in whatever way they can. What we were not
>>>> told growing up is that there’s a lot of very rigorous, hard science that
>>>> allows us to interpret the lives of organisms we’ve never seen—and knowing
>>>> this made me rethink a few things, because I know God and God is not a
>>>> deceiver. If you step back a little bit and let God be God I don’t think
>>>> there’s any contradiction at all between the Bible and what we see in nature.
>>>> He is under no obligation to meet our expectations. He is bigger than that."
>>>
>>> It isn't the teachers that are always trying to do this. It's the
>>> evil spirits within them.
>>
>> There you go again, can't face the truth and fall back on "sin"... Read what
>> Schweitzer has to say, her core faith is undamaged by the truth.
>
> I am telling you the truth, Ian.
So, did you read it?
> On 10/3/2018 5:16 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 04/10/18 09:54, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 4:37 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>
>>>> I think the thing that surprised me most about that class was that I had no
>>>> idea, coming from a conservative Christian background, that scientists are
>>>> not all trying to disprove God in whatever way they can. What we were not
>>>> told growing up is that there’s a lot of very rigorous, hard science that
>>>> allows us to interpret the lives of organisms we’ve never seen—and knowing
>>>> this made me rethink a few things, because I know God and God is not a
>>>> deceiver. If you step back a little bit and let God be God I don’t think
>>>> there’s any contradiction at all between the Bible and what we see in nature.
>>>> He is under no obligation to meet our expectations. He is bigger than that."
>>>
>>> It isn't the teachers that are always trying to do this. It's the
>>> evil spirits within them.
>>
>> There you go again, can't face the truth and fall back on "sin"... Read what
>> Schweitzer has to say, her core faith is undamaged by the truth.
>
> I am telling you the truth, Ian.
>>> One such example of where this has borne fruit is in the area of
>>> genetics research. The study of DNA has revealed so much com-
>>> plexity that it could not have come about by random chance. It
>>> was clearly, clearly, clearly designed.
>>
>> Such complexity that couldn't have come about by random chance in your
>> time-frame, but over 100s of millions of years? Read up on probability.
>
> I have. The video I posted shows what the probability of it
> coming into existence is. It's 10^(340,000,000) power for a
> single cell to come about by undirected natural processes.
> The probability of a single protein coming into existence by
> random chance is 10^164 power.
>
> There are only 10^80 atoms in the entire universe.
>
> At 35:23:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vBqYDBW5s&t=35m23s
>
> It is absolutely impossible for all life on Earth to have
> evolved from the Big Bang + aftermath.
DNA is only determined by probability. News flash! It isn't.
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Kenny McCormack
Oct 4, 2018, 7:43:04 AM10/4/18
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In article <tlbtD.12016$BM....@fx09.am4>,
Agreed. I don't even bother engaging directly anymore. It used to be fun,
but no more. But it can still be fun to talk about/around him.
For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or Tool?"
In fact, given how nuts the news is - and getting nuttier every day - the
question of "Insane or Tool?" applies to a lot of people nowadays.
And note that a subclass of Tool is "Tool pretending to be insane".
And, hey, that last comment almost makes this on-topic for a C++ group.
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but no more. But it can still be fun to talk about/around him.
For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or Tool?"
In fact, given how nuts the news is - and getting nuttier every day - the
question of "Insane or Tool?" applies to a lot of people nowadays.
And note that a subclass of Tool is "Tool pretending to be insane".
And, hey, that last comment almost makes this on-topic for a C++ group.
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Dan Purgert
Oct 4, 2018, 7:53:51 AM10/4/18
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Kenny McCormack wrote:
> [...]
the standards :)
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> For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or
> Tool?"
I was unaware they were mutually-exclusive. Guess I missed an update to
> Tool?"
the standards :)
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David Brown
Oct 4, 2018, 8:07:41 AM10/4/18
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On 03/10/18 23:24, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 10/3/2018 5:03 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>>> I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>>>> and when? That is defamation.
>>>
>>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>>
Here's a clue - when almost everybody says you are wrong, then perhaps
> On 10/3/2018 5:03 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>>> I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>>>> and when? That is defamation.
>>>
>>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>>
it is because you /are/ wrong.
>> So criticizing you is wrong? Where is it written that Rick C. Hodgin
>> is infallible or even holy and so criticizing him is crime or even
>> blasphemy? You are just like the rest of self-righteous liars who
>> pretend something that they are not.
>
> It's the content and the way you criticize me, which is because I
> am teaching you about the author of the universe.
>
way to people who are not interested, and because you refuse to give
honest and genuine answers when people ask questions. They criticise
your dishonesty, your hypocrisy, your hatred, your judgemental and
holier-than-thou attitude, your narcissism, your self-proclaimed
martyrdom, your arrogance.
No one is criticising God - since so few here believe there is such a
thing, the idea of criticising, insulting or rejecting god makes no
sense. I don't "reject god" any more than you reject the flying
spaghetti monster or pink unicorns. It is all personal - it is the
things /you/ say that people reject, criticise and complain about. And
it's time you took some responsibility for your actions and words, and
realised it is not Christianity, or religion, or God that people are
rejecting, it is /your/ posts here. Nothing more, nothing less - your
posts, your words, your fault.
Kenny McCormack
Oct 4, 2018, 8:25:46 AM10/4/18
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In article <slrnprbvq...@xps-linux.djph.net>,
exclusive.
By "Tool", I mean someone whose weird behavior is not explainable as
insanity. I.e., in the criminal justice system, insanity removes guilt.
If someone is judged insane, they are considered not guilty of whatever
whacko thing they did. In my terminology, to be judged a Tool, you have to
be guilty - in this case, guilty of trolling Usenet - and, as we've seen,
insane people are not guilty.
Personally, my best guess is that Rick is *not* insane, but he does a very
good job of playing so on Usenet. This makes him a Tool.
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"You know what they say: the house always loses."
"When life gives you lemons, don't pay taxes."
"Grab 'em by the p***y!"
Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> wrote:
>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>> [...]
>> For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or
>> Tool?"
>
>I was unaware they were mutually-exclusive. Guess I missed an update to
>the standards :)
I get what you're saying, but, yes, in my terminology, they are mutually
>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>> [...]
>> For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or
>> Tool?"
>
>I was unaware they were mutually-exclusive. Guess I missed an update to
>the standards :)
exclusive.
By "Tool", I mean someone whose weird behavior is not explainable as
insanity. I.e., in the criminal justice system, insanity removes guilt.
If someone is judged insane, they are considered not guilty of whatever
whacko thing they did. In my terminology, to be judged a Tool, you have to
be guilty - in this case, guilty of trolling Usenet - and, as we've seen,
insane people are not guilty.
Personally, my best guess is that Rick is *not* insane, but he does a very
good job of playing so on Usenet. This makes him a Tool.
--
"Only a genius could lose a billion dollars running a casino."
"You know what they say: the house always loses."
"When life gives you lemons, don't pay taxes."
"Grab 'em by the p***y!"
Dan Purgert
Oct 4, 2018, 9:04:06 AM10/4/18
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Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <slrnprbvq...@xps-linux.djph.net>,
> Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> wrote:
>>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or
>>> Tool?"
>>
>>I was unaware they were mutually-exclusive. Guess I missed an update to
>>the standards :)
>
> I get what you're saying, but, yes, in my terminology, they are mutually
> exclusive.
> [...]
> In article <slrnprbvq...@xps-linux.djph.net>,
> Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> wrote:
>>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or
>>> Tool?"
>>
>>I was unaware they were mutually-exclusive. Guess I missed an update to
>>the standards :)
>
> I get what you're saying, but, yes, in my terminology, they are mutually
> exclusive.
Works for me.
Rick C. Hodgin
Oct 4, 2018, 10:54:06 AM10/4/18
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On 10/4/2018 3:01 AM, Ian Collins wrote:
> There you go, jumping to the erroneous conclusion that the evolution of DNA
> is only determined by probability. News flash! It isn't.
I did not jump to that conclusion. I know the answer, Ian. :-)
> There you go, jumping to the erroneous conclusion that the evolution of DNA
> is only determined by probability. News flash! It isn't.
It's the total blindness sin pulls over people, Ian. Until
they come to Jesus and have their sin taken away, that blindness
will keep them shackled to falseness, unable to get up and move
to the truth.
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Melzzzzz
Oct 4, 2018, 11:13:25 AM10/4/18
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On 2018-10-04, Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <tlbtD.12016$BM....@fx09.am4>,
> Melzzzzz <Melz...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>On 2018-10-03, Öö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>>> > I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>>>> > and when? That is defamation.
>>>>
>>>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>>>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>>>
>>> So criticizing you is wrong?
>>
>>Same old. Rick is insane, no point in discussing anything with insane
>>person.
>
> Agreed. I don't even bother engaging directly anymore. It used to be fun,
> but no more. But it can still be fun to talk about/around him.
>
> For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or Tool?"
He cracked obviously. Sometime in 2000's when God reveiled him ultimate
> In article <tlbtD.12016$BM....@fx09.am4>,
> Melzzzzz <Melz...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>On 2018-10-03, Öö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 22:21:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> On 10/3/2018 3:12 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>>>> > I have done something against you or against any other Christian? Where
>>>> > and when? That is defamation.
>>>>
>>>> Multiple times. You have criticized me and called me names
>>>> falsely. Most everyone here has done so.
>>>
>>> So criticizing you is wrong?
>>
>>Same old. Rick is insane, no point in discussing anything with insane
>>person.
>
> Agreed. I don't even bother engaging directly anymore. It used to be fun,
> but no more. But it can still be fun to talk about/around him.
>
> For us dedicated Rick watchers, the question boils down to "Insane or Tool?"
truth. Loonies repeat endlessly same thing without reason and disregard
any argument. That's hallmark of looney ;)
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