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Horizon68

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Apr 3, 2019, 9:26:59 AM4/3/19
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Hello..


We’re about to take a big step back to the centralized/controlled past

The end of the desktop?

Read more here:

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3384713/the-end-of-the-desktop.html



Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.

blt...@o44cmiz2c0ih842cd1xn4o_b4w0f.edu

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Apr 4, 2019, 4:57:16 AM4/4/19
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 06:26:48 -0700
Horizon68 <hor...@horizon.com> wrote:
>Hello..
>
>
>We’re about to take a big step back to the centralized/controlled past
>
>The end of the desktop?
>
>Read more here:
>
>https://www.computerworld.com/article/3384713/the-end-of-the-desktop.html

So the desktop actually runs on a remote machine. Wow, how innovative, no
one has ever thought of that before.

MS re-invents the wheel (badly) yet again and pretends its some incredible
innovation.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Apr 4, 2019, 5:19:03 AM4/4/19
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You're missing the point.

Microsoft seeks to make us renters, not owners.

Same with Google Stadia and browser-based OSes.

At a point and time when huge machine resources are cheap and plentiful,
big business wants to control and dominate our computing experience,
literally making us digital slaves to their mastery.

Wake up. Your rights are being usurped ... and you've been duped
into believing it's a good idea. It isn't.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

blt_kh...@nfd__u4y8cx8yha.edu

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Apr 4, 2019, 5:34:35 AM4/4/19
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 02:18:54 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 4:57:16 AM UTC-4, blt...@o44cmiz2c0ih842cd1xn=
>4o_b4w0f.edu wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 06:26:48 -0700
>> Horizon68 <hor...@horizon.com> wrote:
>> >Hello..
>> >
>> >
>> >We=E2=80=99re about to take a big step back to the centralized/controlle=
>d past
>> >
>> >The end of the desktop?
>> >
>> >Read more here:
>> >
>> >https://www.computerworld.com/article/3384713/the-end-of-the-desktop.htm=
>l
>>=20
>> So the desktop actually runs on a remote machine. Wow, how innovative, no
>> one has ever thought of that before.
>>=20
>> MS re-invents the wheel (badly) yet again and pretends its some incredibl=
>e
>> innovation.
>
>You're missing the point.
>
>Microsoft seeks to make us renters, not owners.
>
>Same with Google Stadia and browser-based OSes.
>
>At a point and time when huge machine resources are cheap and plentiful,
>big business wants to control and dominate our computing experience,
>literally making us digital slaves to their mastery.

Sun tried it with the javastation, that turned out well. Plus we already have
RDP and X Terminals for people who need remote desktop working.

>Wake up. Your rights are being usurped ... and you've been duped
>into believing it's a good idea. It isn't.

Doesn't bother me, I haven't used Windows since 2014 and that was only for
work, not home.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Apr 4, 2019, 5:49:35 AM4/4/19
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Your arguments are for the technology.

Computer abilities and features are not inherently evil. It's how and
why they're being used that makes them evil.

Microsoft (the company) has goals to ensnare all users in a renter-
based system. Same with other big business. Those issues are real,
and they are things to be actively taught against by educating others.

Note: Within Microsoft and other big businesses are people, and
many of those people are seeking to do what's right and not harm
other people. We should be encouraging those people to exert influence
by making public calls to decency, honesty, integrity, sincerity,
morality, and the like. Greater are the numbers of people seeking
to do right and not harm than those few who do seek to harm.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

blt...@4gdem.edu

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Apr 4, 2019, 6:05:48 AM4/4/19
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 02:49:26 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 5:34:35 AM UTC-4, blt_kh...@nfd__u4y8cx8yha.edu
>wrote:
>> Doesn't bother me, I haven't used Windows since 2014 and that was only for
>> work, not home.
>
>Your arguments are for the technology.
>
>Computer abilities and features are not inherently evil. It's how and
>why they're being used that makes them evil.
>
>Microsoft (the company) has goals to ensnare all users in a renter-
>based system. Same with other big business. Those issues are real,
>and they are things to be actively taught against by educating others.

Its up to individuals if they go down that route. Given how the dumb sheep
are quite happy to make their entire lives public on social media I wouldn't
be surprised if they had over control of their machines to a big corp.

>Note: Within Microsoft and other big businesses are people, and
>many of those people are seeking to do what's right and not harm
>other people. We should be encouraging those people to exert influence
>by making public calls to decency, honesty, integrity, sincerity,
>morality, and the like. Greater are the numbers of people seeking
>to do right and not harm than those few who do seek to harm.

Makes little odds if the people are the top are only interested in next
years profit margin to keep shareholders happy.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Apr 4, 2019, 6:26:31 AM4/4/19
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On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 6:05:48 AM UTC-4, blt...@4gdem.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 02:49:26 -0700 (PDT)
> "Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 5:34:35 AM UTC-4, blt_kh...@nfd__u4y8cx8yha.edu
> >wrote:
> >> Doesn't bother me, I haven't used Windows since 2014 and that was only for
> >> work, not home.
> >
> >Your arguments are for the technology.
> >
> >Computer abilities and features are not inherently evil. It's how and
> >why they're being used that makes them evil.
> >
> >Microsoft (the company) has goals to ensnare all users in a renter-
> >based system. Same with other big business. Those issues are real,
> >and they are things to be actively taught against by educating others.
>
> Its up to individuals if they go down that route. Given how the dumb sheep
> are quite happy to make their entire lives public on social media I wouldn't
> be surprised if they had over control of their machines to a big corp.

FWIW, you come across as one of those "sheep" being willing to
simply stand idly by watching it happen around you.

> >Note: Within Microsoft and other big businesses are people, and
> >many of those people are seeking to do what's right and not harm
> >other people. We should be encouraging those people to exert influence
> >by making public calls to decency, honesty, integrity, sincerity,
> >morality, and the like. Greater are the numbers of people seeking
> >to do right and not harm than those few who do seek to harm.
>
> Makes little odds if the people are the top are only interested in next
> years profit margin to keep shareholders happy.

The goal is to encourage people. You never know what you might
encourage them to step up and do until you try. People are in-
credibly capable, but often misguided (as you cite). By reaching
out and seeking to harness their abilities toward right goals as
by encouragement and by getting them up and into action, major
things can happen.

It only takes a handful of devoted people to change the world.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Mr Flibble

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Apr 4, 2019, 6:31:00 AM4/4/19
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The subscription model is the only way for a software developer to make a
decent amount of money for his/her software these days. Long gone are the
days of selling shrink-wrapped software.

/Leigh

--
“You won’t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.” – Ricky Gervais

“I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn’t believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens.” –
Ricky Gervais

"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."

blt_48l...@n_kul.net

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Apr 4, 2019, 6:43:10 AM4/4/19
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 6:05:48 AM UTC-4, blt...@4gdem.edu wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 02:49:26 -0700 (PDT)
>> "Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 5:34:35 AM UTC-4,
>blt_kh...@nfd__u4y8cx8yha.edu
>> >wrote:
>> >> Doesn't bother me, I haven't used Windows since 2014 and that was only for
>
>> >> work, not home.
>> >
>> >Your arguments are for the technology.
>> >
>> >Computer abilities and features are not inherently evil. It's how and
>> >why they're being used that makes them evil.
>> >
>> >Microsoft (the company) has goals to ensnare all users in a renter-
>> >based system. Same with other big business. Those issues are real,
>> >and they are things to be actively taught against by educating others.
>>
>> Its up to individuals if they go down that route. Given how the dumb sheep
>> are quite happy to make their entire lives public on social media I wouldn't
>> be surprised if they had over control of their machines to a big corp.
>
>FWIW, you come across as one of those "sheep" being willing to
>simply stand idly by watching it happen around you.

Watching it happen to others, not me. There's a big difference. Observing
idiots being given enough rope to hang themselves and using it quite amusing.

>> Makes little odds if the people are the top are only interested in next
>> years profit margin to keep shareholders happy.
>
>The goal is to encourage people. You never know what you might
>encourage them to step up and do until you try. People are in-
>credibly capable, but often misguided (as you cite). By reaching
>out and seeking to harness their abilities toward right goals as
>by encouragement and by getting them up and into action, major
>things can happen.

You speak as if this is some novel idea that no one has ever tried before.

>It only takes a handful of devoted people to change the world.

Thats a nice cosy myth.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Apr 4, 2019, 6:49:30 AM4/4/19
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On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 6:43:10 AM UTC-4, blt_48l...@n_kul.net wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
> >It only takes a handful of devoted people to change the world.
>
> Thats a nice cosy myth.

There are a handful of devoted people changing the world negatively
right now.

We (the silent majority) are not just a majority, but a far and
away supermajority of grand stature.

Calling people "idiots" and laughing at their ignorance and cala-
mity is not something one person should do to another. You make
yourself part of the problem.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Rick C. Hodgin

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Apr 4, 2019, 6:55:04 AM4/4/19
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On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 6:31:00 AM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> The subscription model is the only way for a software developer to make a
> decent amount of money for his/her software these days. Long gone are the
> days of selling shrink-wrapped software.

My goals are not and have not been to make money writing the software
I do. I seek to give people tools which empower them and lift them
up so they can use their abilities to craft their desires into action.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+6%3A10&version=KJV

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while
some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and
pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

You follow after worldly goals, Leigh, seeking to fill your life
with what your eyes can see and your belly can be filled with.
You summarily discount God and anything you can't see with those
eyes and feel full with in that belly. In so doing you determine
your course.

There's so much more available to you than what you see today,
Leigh ... if only you'd be willing to receive it.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Mr Flibble

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Apr 4, 2019, 9:02:02 AM4/4/19
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Nonsense.
A) Your bible is false.
B) Your god the existence of which is predicated on your bible being true
is, given (A), also false.

/Flibble

blt_2...@rbh38tg7h62l1onmhoof.edu

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Apr 5, 2019, 5:14:13 AM4/5/19
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:49:21 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 6:43:10 AM UTC-4, blt_48l...@n_kul.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
>> >It only takes a handful of devoted people to change the world.
>>
>> Thats a nice cosy myth.
>
>There are a handful of devoted people changing the world negatively
>right now.

If one of them is Trump then a lot of people might disagree with you there.

>We (the silent majority) are not just a majority, but a far and
>away supermajority of grand stature.

Off you go and change the world then.

>Calling people "idiots" and laughing at their ignorance and cala-
>mity is not something one person should do to another. You make
>yourself part of the problem.

The *average* IQ in the west is 100. Thats a long way from rocket scientist.
And in africa its 70, so good luck persuading those morons to do anything
in their own favour.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Apr 5, 2019, 5:42:33 AM4/5/19
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You get lost in your own misconceptions and unfounded judgments.
They keep you pinned down and diminished. If you desire to change
that the ability to overcome does exist, but you must pursue it.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

blt_...@2kluo9b5zdn94iicm.co.uk

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Apr 5, 2019, 6:44:12 AM4/5/19
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 02:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 5:14:13 AM UTC-4,
>blt_2...@rbh38tg7h62l1onmhoof.edu wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:49:21 -0700 (PDT)
>> "Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 6:43:10 AM UTC-4, blt_48l...@n_kul.net wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 03:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
>> >> >It only takes a handful of devoted people to change the world.
>> >>
>> >> Thats a nice cosy myth.
>> >
>> >There are a handful of devoted people changing the world negatively
>> >right now.
>>
>> If one of them is Trump then a lot of people might disagree with you there.
>>
>> >We (the silent majority) are not just a majority, but a far and
>> >away supermajority of grand stature.
>>
>> Off you go and change the world then.
>>
>> >Calling people "idiots" and laughing at their ignorance and cala-
>> >mity is not something one person should do to another. You make
>> >yourself part of the problem.
>>
>> The *average* IQ in the west is 100. Thats a long way from rocket scientist.
>> And in africa its 70, so good luck persuading those morons to do anything
>> in their own favour.
>
>You get lost in your own misconceptions and unfounded judgments.
>They keep you pinned down and diminished. If you desire to change
>that the ability to overcome does exist, but you must pursue it.

You sound like a budget cut and paste motivational speaker - lots of words
but not much actually said.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Apr 5, 2019, 6:59:05 AM4/5/19
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We hear what we want to hear.

You have an attitude of nonchalance and disdain for helping
others. You choose to call me names, other people names, and
you discard them as idiots and morons, even mocking people's
intelligence, something a person is born with an does not have
an ability to adjust by work or effort. You come across as
one who would mock someone also who is handicapped or has an
appearance unlike others based on those superficial qualities
alone, even though each of us is more than our mere outward
appearance, and the opportunities and what we do with those
opportunities set a course for our life that can be beyond
our apparent abilities.

Because you live in that place of casting negativity upon all
others around you, it is only natural you would also discount
the wisdom offered to you by me and others, and not hear any
of it when it's plainly before you able to be received.

You erect walls around yourself to keep you where you are.
Until you are willing to tear down those walls, you will
remain isolated from the truth.

The choice is yours. You harm yourself by keeping those
walls erected. The path of wisdom is coming to that first
realization in your heart, "Maybe I am wrong. Maybe there
is something I don't know that would serve me and my life
better than where I am and what I have today."

Get to that place and those walls will start coming down
quickly.

Note: I was the same one for the first 30+ years of my life.
It took me searching for the truth before it was revealed to
me. Seek the truth and watch your entire world change.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

blt_Zx...@kb3vbmyoqnmqhk0l1.edu

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Apr 5, 2019, 12:06:35 PM4/5/19
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 03:58:55 -0700 (PDT)
"Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 6:44:12 AM UTC-4, blt_...@2kluo9b5zdn94iicm.co.uk
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 02:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
>> "Rick C Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >You get lost in your own misconceptions and unfounded judgments.
>> >They keep you pinned down and diminished. If you desire to change
>> >that the ability to overcome does exist, but you must pursue it.
>>
>> You sound like a budget cut and paste motivational speaker - lots of words
>> but not much actually said.
>
> We hear what we want to hear.

[snip]

I re-iterate my original statement above.


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