Brian Wood's C++ Middleware Writer Spam Advertising

[Mr Flibble]

Brian,

Pack it in. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not a free advertising platform.

1) It is a conflict of interest for the author of a product to modify an
encyclopaedic entry so that it mentions that product.
2) In a situation such as this a product has to be notable for it to
appear on Wikipedia and your product is not notable (if it was it would
have at least one independent, notable third party source discussing it).
3) You are not adding any value to the encyclopaedic entry as what you
are doing is purely advertisement for the purposes of promoting your
product.
4) You seem to think that as your product is a "free service" you can
advertise it at will on Wikipedia. This is an erroneous thought.

Again, pack it in. You are acting like a child: people shouldn't have
to keep checking the entry to undo your repeated spam edits.

/Flibble

[Christian Gollwitzer]

Am 15.02.16 um 19:21 schrieb Mr Flibble:

> Pack it in. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not a free advertising platform.
>

> [...]

> Again, pack it in. You are acting like a child: people shouldn't have
> to keep checking the entry to undo your repeated spam edits.

Maybe an administrator could block the article until the repeated
advertisement stops? It should be evident to anyone from a quick google
search that Brian's software is nothing widely known/applied.
Unfortunaly, I don't have much experience with Wikipedia's processes,
how do you call in an admin?

Christian

[woodb...@gmail.com]

Sorry if you find it spam. I think it's a case
of "One man's trash is another man's treasure."

I think the Java section of the Wikipedia page should
be cut from 16 lines to 5 or 6 lines.
It would also be helpful if the languages were ordered
in chronological or alphabetical order.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - "If I am not for myself who will be
for me? If I am only for myself, who am I?" Rabbi Hillel

http://webEbenezer.net

[Alf P. Steinbach]

On 2/15/2016 8:32 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
>
> Maybe an administrator could block the article until the repeated
> advertisement stops? It should be evident to anyone from a quick google
> search that Brian's software is nothing widely known/applied.
> Unfortunaly, I don't have much experience with Wikipedia's processes,
> how do you call in an admin?

I don't know.

Wikipedia appears to have evolved to the kind of half-closed society
where an unreasonable investment of time and effort is required just to
get into it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialization

Looks clean now but I notice in the edit history Brian is really
persistent about promoting his software there.

As if there's no listing of C++ libraries anywhere, not even one
automatically posted to the newsgroups every month.


Cheers,

- Alf

[Jens Thoms Toerring]

woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sorry if you find it spam. I think it's a case
> of "One man's trash is another man's treasure."

If you add your own stuff to wikipedia it's clearly spam. It's
not for you as the author to decide if it's important enough to
be mentioned, no matter how good or beneficial for others you
may consider it to be. It's up to a happy user to add it if
(s)he feels it's important enough. If you want to get some
exposure go and buy some advertisement space somewhere - mis-
using wikipedia for that is spam as clearly as it gets - it
ticks all the boxes.

Never ever touch a page (or have any part in changing it,
except maybe when asked by someone else for details) that
mentions any of your work (or you personally) - even if you
feel the treatment to be wrong or unflattering.

What about writing an excellent article about serialization
(that may mention your library in some form) that is helpful
to others, and publish it on your own web site? If it's really
good it will get some good rankings in search engines and may
end up linked to by wikipedia after some time. It's a bit of
work, admittedly, but it's the honest way to go.

--
\ Jens Thoms Toerring ___ j...@toerring.de
\__________________________ http://toerring.de

[Mr Flibble]

He isn't listening: he is still vandalizing that page with his spam. He
certainly is a stubborn cunt.

/Flibble

[Jerry Stuckle]

Does it help to report his spam to wikipedia? I don't know - I've never
seen a spammer so determined.

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[Daniel]

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 4:37:21 PM UTC-5, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:

[woodb...@gmail.com]

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 5:40:36 PM UTC-6, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote:
> woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Sorry if you find it spam. I think it's a case
> > of "One man's trash is another man's treasure."
>
> If you add your own stuff to wikipedia it's clearly spam. It's
> not for you as the author to decide if it's important enough to
> be mentioned, no matter how good or beneficial for others you
> may consider it to be. It's up to a happy user to add it if

I'm also a happy user.

> (s)he feels it's important enough.

Well, it supports automating the creation of serialization
functions. The serialization library in Boost doesn't do that.

It's also an on line approach. So most of the changes
are made to the code generator and users don't have to
patch their installations. In that sense it minimizes
the amount of code that has to be downloaded by users.

It's been on line since 2002. Back then the value of
what I wrote above wasn't clear to some people, but I
think it's increasingly obvious today.

> If you want to get some
> exposure go and buy some advertisement space somewhere - mis-
> using wikipedia for that is spam as clearly as it gets - it
> ticks all the boxes.
>
> Never ever touch a page (or have any part in changing it,
> except maybe when asked by someone else for details) that
> mentions any of your work (or you personally) - even if you
> feel the treatment to be wrong or unflattering.
>

I'll make it clear that the user that's recommending
it is also the author.

> What about writing an excellent article about serialization
> (that may mention your library in some form) that is helpful
> to others, and publish it on your own web site? If it's really
> good it will get some good rankings in search engines and may
> end up linked to by wikipedia after some time. It's a bit of
> work, admittedly, but it's the honest way to go.

What about the 16 lines of boring text about Java
serialization on that Wikipedia page? Do you support that
being reduced to 5 or 6 lines?


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust.
http://webEbenezer.net

[Jerry Stuckle]

It's still spam.

>> What about writing an excellent article about serialization
>> (that may mention your library in some form) that is helpful
>> to others, and publish it on your own web site? If it's really
>> good it will get some good rankings in search engines and may
>> end up linked to by wikipedia after some time. It's a bit of
>> work, admittedly, but it's the honest way to go.
>
> What about the 16 lines of boring text about Java
> serialization on that Wikipedia page? Do you support that
> being reduced to 5 or 6 lines?
>

Strawman argument. It has nothing to do with your spam.

But then I guess it doesn't make any difference anyway since you can't
seem to keep your site up.

>
> Brian
> Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust.
> http://webEbenezer.net
>
>>
>> --
>> \ Jens Thoms Toerring ___ j...@toerring.de
>> \__________________________ http://toerring.de
>

[Mr Flibble]

On 16/02/2016 04:13, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 5:40:36 PM UTC-6, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote:
>>
>> Never ever touch a page (or have any part in changing it,
>> except maybe when asked by someone else for details) that
>> mentions any of your work (or you personally) - even if you
>> feel the treatment to be wrong or unflattering.
>>
>
> I'll make it clear that the user that's recommending
> it is also the author.

That will make absolutely no difference: myself and others will continue
to remove your edits because your software is not notable enough to be
in an encyclopaedia and what you are writing is simply spam promoting
your software.

/Flibble

[J. Clarke]

In article <dc11337f-5a5e-4260...@googlegroups.com>,
woodb...@gmail.com says...

If you want to reduce it, just reduce it and see what happens. Geez.

[Cholo Lennon]

On 02/15/2016 06:42 PM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>
> Looks clean now but I notice in the edit history Brian is really
> persistent about promoting his software there.

You can't expect something different from a bigoted/fanatical person.
His repeated posts about anything except C++ show that behaviour (that's
why he is in my kill file)


Regards

--
Cholo Lennon
Bs.As.
ARG