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Rick C. Hodgin

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Go to church today. Learn who it is the Christians are talking
about when they talk about God, and what He has done, and has planned
up ahead for each of us:

http://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/33.htm

6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens
made; and all the host of them by the breath
of his mouth.

7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together
as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses.

8 Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the
inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.

9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded,
and it stood fast.

He has glorious plans for your life, and for all of mankind. He extends
the invitation to all. Be one who receives. Live on.

Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin

Reinhardt Behm

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Sep 4, 2016, 10:53:27 AM9/4/16
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You are wrong here.
In C++ we have other creators and _we_ create them. We just call them
constructors.

--
Reinhardt

Melzzzzz

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Reinhardt Behm <rb...@hushmail.com> wrote:

>
> You are wrong here.
> In C++ we have other creators and _we_ create them. We just call them
> constructors.
>
He spams comp.lang.c and comp.arch as well with this crap...

Rick C. Hodgin

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Reinhardt Behm wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > 9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded,
> > and it stood fast.
>
> You are wrong here. In C++ we have other creators and _we_
> create them. We just call them constructors.

They're at notably different levels of indirection. :-)

bighe...@gmail.com

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Funny; I read this and went to one of these churches
and look at a bible in the pew. And you know what? there
wasn't a SINGLE line of C++ code in it! Not a one!

Why would I go to one of these places to learn about
programming?!

Real Troll

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Sep 4, 2016, 10:09:30 PM9/4/16
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On 04/09/2016 15:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Go to church today.


Have you been to a porn site where nuns are giving lessons in how to
bonk them with a big hard cock?


Rick C. Hodgin

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Why is it only Jesus? Why not Mohamed or Buddha or one of the Hindu gods?
Why is it only Jesus who is the "right God"?

Every religion except Biblical Christianity teaches that you can be made
right before God by performing certain rituals, or in some way self-
attaining the approach to God.

Only Biblical Christianity teaches you that no matter how you live your
life, you'll never be good enough because there is already a real taint
upon you that cannot be removed by good deeds.

That taint that exists is sin. And it is only Jesus Christ who can take
that sin away, restoring you to eternal life, and giving you the plan and
purpose God originally had for you before sin entered in and destroyed
everything.

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How does Jesus take away sin?

Jesus is God. He came to the Earth as a man, born as a man, as a baby,
at the appropriate time, to then be subjected to being under our laws.
He was born of a virgin so that He did not carry the sin of man upon Him
when He was born. The Holy Spirit (the power of God) caused a miracle
within the womb of the virgin. There, His body was created so that He
would have a presence in this world. In that way, His Father is God
Himself, making Him God on Earth.

He was born, and grew up in the normal way, and was given the Holy Spirit
without measure, meaning He was fully God and fully man. He lived until
about 30 years old where He began His ministry on Earth, teaching the
people here about His New Testament, about sin, about forgiveness of sin,
about the false teachings of the enemy. His ministry lasted about three
years, and then He went to the cross to fulfill prophecy and save us.

He was never guilty of violating any of the laws God gave man, so that
He was completely without sin.

You will note that some people commit more sins than other people, but
that all people die. And whether it be Hitler who died, or the little
old lady down the street who is as nice as she can be to everybody, with
never a negative thing to say, always lending a helping hand and giving
out good advice, etc., the same punishment is required by God for sin:
eternal death in Hell, separate from God, and separate from the rest of
God's creation so that there will never be another influence upon God's
creation by that sinful entity.

This is the requirement of sin because sin is falseness, imperfection,
and it stands against the perfect creation of God like a cancer, eating
away at what was laid down perfectly, until the content there has been
twisted and turned away from its original intent, being now used for the
hideous form that sin manifests as. Sin is a literal cancer. And like
cancer, you don't just live with it. You must excise it completely. You
must get in there and cut it out and remove all of it so that it has no
more influence upon the healthy body, so that it will not do any more
damage.

That is why God created Hell. He created Hell to take sin away from the
rest of His creation.

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Why do people still go to Hell if Jesus came to save us?

We each have a choice to make. From within, we will either seek to follow
the truth, or we will not, and in that way we will either choose to follow
after Jesus Christ because He is truth, or we will turn away from Him and
follow after any other manner, all of which are falseness.

For all who do pursue truth, they will come to Him, ask forgiveness, and He
will forgive their sin and be saved. This means He will transfer the sin
debt they've accumulated in their life, past, present, and future, to His
own account, so that when He died at the cross your sin died with Him,
rather than you, setting you free from the sin debt ... as though you never
ever sinned even one time.

This is God's gift to all who come to Him:

1) Jesus was manifest to undo the works of the devil (sin).
2) He did everything required of God to be able to take sin away.
3) He takes our sin away, and He pays the price of our disobedience
in Hell, so that we never have to.

There is no greater gift. And it's free for the receiving. Jesus wants
to forgive you of all of your sin, so that you can be with Him where He
is, forever, in the paradise of God, in a new body that doesn't get tired,
never gets old, will never hunger or thirst, and will be beautiful like
that of the angels ... forever.

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The enemy of God is at work in this world trying to distract you from
coming to Jesus Christ. He is trying to soil His name, and taint that
which He is offering with false attributes so that people will look at
the false attributes and say, "Nope, not for me," rather than looking at
the REAL Jesus Christ and learning that He is everything you could've
ever hoped for, and more.

Jesus extends His arms out to receive you. Receive Him, so that He can
forgive your sin, and give you eternal life. He calls out to you because
He loves you, and He wants to reveal all of His creation and glory to you,
so that you can know Him as He truly is, and not as the world teaches, and
not as our limited abilities here upon this fallen-in-sin Earth can receive,
but rightly, fully, in eternity, as one of His own (made in His own image
and likeness ... we are literally made in God's image and will be like Him
when we see Him as He is).

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Pursue this knowledge for yourself. Go to a local Christian church. Pick
up the Christian Bible and begin searching for yourself, but always begin
by asking God to reveal Himself to you, and to lead you rightly into the
full truth. He will do this for all who are truly seeking the truth.

There is an enemy voice who will come and try to knock you off of that
pursuit. But if you ask God for help, and you are one who is truly in
pursuit of truth, then because God is greater than that enemy, He will lead
you fully into the truth, so that the enemy will not prevent you from coming
to a full and saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. God Himself will act on
your behalf fighting the powerful enemy Satan (and all his demon imps), so
that you (who are most precious to Him) can come to Him, and be saved by
His Son, and be with Him forever. Your value is worth much more than gold.

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God Himself will lead you into all truth ... if you ask Him. I pray you do.
I would like for you to live on in eternity, in the paradise of God, in a
perfect body, forever.

Real Troll

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Sep 5, 2016, 9:33:33 PM9/5/16
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On 05/09/2016 19:52, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Jesus is God.

I thought this man is de-facto God:

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Rick C. Hodgin

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Real Troll wrote:
> On 05/09/2016 19:52, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > Jesus is God.
>
> I thought this man is de-facto God:
> [snip]

There is a worldwide movement to merge genders, and faiths.
There is a movement to render Biblical Christianity impotent and
powerless by attempting to merge in these ideas of genderless and
simply loving one another people.

It is the final thing spoken of by the prophets and Jesus Himself
regarding the end-most times, and is the immediate precursor
to the full-throttle one world religion / one world government
that's coming, and will be the Luciferian teaching of self-love,
and self-worship, under the guise of loving one another, and not
rebuking one another under the true authority of God.

The wheat is being separated from the tares. People will either be
deceived, or they will seek the truth to great personal cost and be
saved.

Jesus is calling out to all, and all who hear and respond will be saved.
The rest will pursue the direction of the world right into their own
eternal destruction.

These end times are described in scripture as a woman in labor, and
things are moving very quickly now. We're close to 10cm, and the time
for deliverance is upon us.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Sep 5, 2016, 10:53:45 PM9/5/16
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Listen to this service. Listen to his teaching and guidance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pupPSlzZmkw

Your literal soul is at stake. You will live on after death. The
determination about whether you live in the paradise of Heaven,
or the fires of Hell, comes down to exactly one thing:

What did you do with Jesus Christ?

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There is a true teaching that will lead you to eternal life. It comes
only from Christianity, and the blood stained Savior who died on
the cross to save you.

Neelam

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Sep 6, 2016, 1:18:29 PM9/6/16
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Not to mention different levels of *existence*! :-)

Rick C. Hodgin

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Sep 6, 2016, 1:39:10 PM9/6/16
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Are you so blind, Neelam? Can you look around and see evidence of the
existence of God in all places, at all times, and in all directions? Can
you see that even the act of looking out to find the existence of God
demonstrates His existence, for you are using eyes, and a mind, and an
entire bodily design created to keep your tissue living, one wrought of
such a complexity at the level of DNA that it could not have come about
by mere random chance.

This complexity in design screams of a grand designer. And in the Bible,
we learn who that designer is, and we also learn who we are:

http://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/14.htm
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt,
they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

We are all filthy in sin before Him. Yet He is not content to merely
judge us. He has sent His Son into the world to save all who will
receive Him. And for those who do, He restores them to the intents and
purposes He had in mind before sin came in and destroyed everything.

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Will you look with your eyes, and consider with your mind, and seek out
the truth, Neelam? Or will you gloss over reality, taking what you
receive from the masses of teachers all around you who proclaim (in sin)
the non-existence of God?

Jesus Christ is King of kings, and Lord of lords. And He calls out to
you, so that you might be forgiven, and enter in to eternal life in a
body that never wears out. He wants with greatest passion to give this
to you ... so He's made it very easy to achieve: all you have to do is
ask Him to forgive you, and it's all yours.

I pray you do. I would like to see you in Heaven.

Mr Flibble

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Sep 6, 2016, 1:43:47 PM9/6/16
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Two different New Testament gospels describe the genealogy of Jesus
Christ all the way back to Adam (the first human). Evolution is a fact
(the fossil record exists). As evolution is a fact we know humans
evolved. As humans evolved there was, genetically, no first human. As
there was no first human Adam could never have existed. As Adam never
existed Adam’s descendants as described in the Bible also never existed
ergo Jesus Christ never existed.

/Flibble

Mr Flibble

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On 06/09/2016 18:54, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Evolution is not a fact. It appears to be a fact but it crumbles under
> scrutiny. A creation viewpoint gives it another explanation which is
> not only plausible, it aligns with all the "discrepancies" that DNA
> researchers are finding that they can't otherwise explain.
>
> Watch this video and look at the incredible complexity and grand design
> in DNA. This complexity cannot come about through random mutation, nor
> even complex mutation. What you are seeing in the fossil record is the
> evidence of speciation over time. God created a master template of each
> kind, and programmed within its DNA the ability to specialize through
> successive generations. But this specialization is a loss of information,
> not a gain, and it has only been going on for 6,000 years:
>
> "Wonder of DNA" by Dr. Georgia Purdom
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ACCIu3jPrc
>
> "Confirming evidence of a literal Adam and Eve" by Dr. Georgia Purdom
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deV99oPnKlI
>
> Here's a shorter summary version that explains it in a nutshell:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbODW6XO8zY&t=20m31s
>
> Parents might have genes AaBbCc. They have children with combinations of
> those genes, resulting in children with AABBCC, AABBCc, AABBcc, AABbCC,
> AABbCc, and so on. But the ones which have AABBcc, for example, have lost
> all of their C genes. These are still present within the DNA, but they're
> no longer expressed.
>
> This is how God designed life, so that it goes from the original master
> template of each kind, which contains all of the genetic information for
> all of the species that will come out of it, which then produces all of
> the combinations of expressed genes as they go on down through the years,
> which account for all of the fossil records we see in which we find
> variation.
>
> "One Race, One Blood" by Ken Ham
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbODW6XO8zY&t=20m31s

Deluded.

/Flibble

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Rick C. Hodgin

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Sep 6, 2016, 2:02:19 PM9/6/16
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The real answer is there to investigate if you're interested. You'll find
the spirit that's at work in this world, and just how pervasive that spirit
is. You can't enter a classroom, enter into a major business, be a part of
any large and influential thing in this world, without encountering it, and
in actuality, having it be the ruling and governing force in that entity's
continued access to large quantities of people.

The only exceptions to this are those God allows to grow up in service to
Him. And because sin is so pervasive, and the evil spirit influence is so
tempting to our sinful flesh, very few people are strong enough in their
faith to withstand the constant onslaught of attacks, and stand up for God
in real ways.

It takes a tremendous effort to be a devout Christian in this world. It
takes almost no effort whatsoever to go along with the status quo, and
especially so if you exhibit some special skills. So long as you're
towing the "party line," you're good to go.

I challenge you, Leigh ... investigate. You'll find the truth, and you'll
find that it is the exact opposite of what you've been taught.

Real Troll

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On 06/09/2016 18:18, Neelam wrote:
> Not to mention different levels of *existence*! :-)

What about different levels of erections? Some god believing Christians
have serious erectile dysfunction. That is why they abuse young boys.
Are you blind not to see this is real life?


Rick C. Hodgin

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Sep 6, 2016, 2:04:22 PM9/6/16
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I apologize for the multiple posts on some Usenet servers. Google Groups
did not post this reply properly, and I tried to correct it before I realized
what was going on. My mistake. I apologize.

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On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:43:47 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 06/09/2016 18:38, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:18:29 PM UTC-4, Neelam wrote:
> >> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
> >>> Reinhardt Behm wrote:
> >>>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>>>> 9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded,
> >>>>> and it stood fast.
> >>>> You are wrong here. In C++ we have other creators and _we_
> >>>> create them. We just call them constructors.
> >>> They're at notably different levels of indirection. :-)
> >> Not to mention different levels of *existence*! :-)
> >

Mr Flibble

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I said, for the avoidance of doubt, that you are deluded. This is not
an appropriate forum for religious bullshit.

/Flibble

Rick C. Hodgin

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> an appropriate forum for religious ...

This is science confirming creation, Leigh. It's in our DNA, and in the
DNA of all living things. The complexities involved are the signature
of God.

In addition, they've found soft tissue in fossilized dinosaur bones.
That's simply not possible with "millions of years." It is possible with
a few hundred or thousands of years.

I can't make you believe it, Leigh. But you're being lied to by a real
enemy. And I'm pointing you to the truth. If you have any desire to
learn of the truth ... there it is.

The ball's in your court. I pray you pick it up and investigate. I
would like to see you in Heaven, Leigh. I would like for you to continue
on after you leave this world.

Gareth Owen

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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:18:29 PM UTC-4, Neelam wrote:
>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
>> > Reinhardt Behm wrote:
>> >> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> >> > 9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded,
>> >> > and it stood fast.
>> >> You are wrong here. In C++ we have other creators and _we_
>> >> create them. We just call them constructors.
>> > They're at notably different levels of indirection. :-)
>> Not to mention different levels of *existence*! :-)
>
> Are you so blind, Neelam? Can you look around and see evidence of the
> existence of God in all places, at all times, and in all directions?

Can I see the existence of God in all places, at all times?

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/police-say-woman-killed-daughter-by-shoving-crucifix-down-her-throat-arranged-body-in-shape-of-cross

I'm going to go with "No."

I cannot see the existence of God in the senseless murder of a young
woman by someone who, just like you, was so utterly convinced that she
was an agent of God's will that she had lost all reason.

Rick C. Hodgin

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In this crime you see the existence of sin, and the influence of the enemy
I bring to your attention to. The same enemy that leads people to commit
"non harmful" acts of sin (secret sexual liaisons, at home drunkenness,
gambling, stealing from the company, etc.) also leads others to conduct
"harmful" acts of sin, whereby other physical bodies or property are
damaged.

Those are the traits we see outwardly, but the base cause of those heinous
acts is sin, and the enemy influence (who is spirit, invisible, but is
there like the "devil on the shoulder" enticing the person to do the bad
things).

Even in such a case, God is there. The creation He made in the form of
the body which, if it could be frozen in time and examined by a competent
scientist, would be able to discover the design of creation at work, the
love and care given to its design, the age of those involved (that they
have had food and water and education and care given to them for how many
years), and if those years were also examined you'd see the opportunities
they had to not commit that act of sin, the many places in their life where
God reached out to them to try to get their attention and draw them back to
what's right, and so on.

God is always there. It is the enemy of God who tries to pawn off on
another their influence. The fact that they are invisible makes it so very
easy to do. But, God has given us faculties to recognize invisible things.
We cannot see love, but you can see the effects of love in the way a person
behaves. You cannot see the evil spirit influence, but you can see the
effect of the evil spirit influence in the way a person behaves.

God is always there. But the enemy is always there as well, enticing
people to commit sin. And the enemy is very keen on getting people to do
heinous acts in the name of Christianity, or in some way related to Jesus
Christ, in an attempt to soil His name, or to make it much easier for those
"good people" who would read of someone doing such a thing to summarily
conclude that such activity is "all Christians," and dismiss it without
investigating further.

But the voice of God calls out continually within each of us, and His voice
sounds in men and women like me who do raise their voice for Him, teaching
that such acts are not of God, but bringing attention to the enemy who is
there trying to deceive you into believing that such acts exist because 1)
God doesn't exist, or 2) God is evil if He does exist, and so on.

The real God, the real Jesus Christ, the true God is unapproachable because
He is so Holy, so Perfect, so Amazingly Awesome, and so Far Beyond us. It
is only through His Son that we are able to approach Him, which is why He
sent His Son ... to make a way back for us to Him.

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What you see as hateful behavior in others is the result of sin. What you
see in Jesus Christ being willing to forgive your sin is real love. And it
is to Him I direct you, not toward the behavior of those who are acting in
sin in this world.

Gareth Owen

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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:

> In this crime you see the existence of sin, and the influence of the
> enemy I bring to your attention to

Sorry, you said you could see God in *all* places.

Rick C. Hodgin

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God's greatest gift to us is our volition. The Bible records:

http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/3-20.htm
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice,
and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him,
and he with me.

He knocks. But He will not force Himself upon anyone. He is giving
everyone the ability to choose, and He is honoring their choices.

As I have said many times, Jesus Christ will not send anyone to Hell.
But each person, by their own actions and choices, will send themselves
to Hell, because Jesus Christ's death on the cross was sufficient to
atone for every sin by every person on the Earth, past, present, and
future, but each of us must individually come to Him and receive Him,
asking Him for forgiveness, and receiving our portion of His gift to us,
which is eternal life, and marriage to Him in eternity.

We are more than we see in this world. And our existence goes on beyond
our allotted time here in this world. We are amazing creations made in
the very image and likeness of God. It is only sin that has corrupted
our existence to this form we see here in this fallen world. But this
form will not go on forever. It is approaching the end very quickly,
and all those who will be saved are begin gathered unto Him. Those who
will not be saved are being pushed away from Him by their own choices to
not be near Him in any way (run from teaching about Jesus Christ, for
example, never attend a church, avoid those who try to guide people as
per His teachings).

Jesus knows who are His, and He draws men and women like me to teach the
people of this world so that those who are His will have the opportunity
to hear His word, to hear the truth, to come out, repent, ask forgiveness,
and be saved. It is for them (those who will be saved) that men and
women like me labor. We don't do it for other reasons. We do it because
men's souls are at stake, and they are of the utmost precious value.
All of them. And Jesus is giving everyone the absolute maximum number of
opportunities to come to Him so that when they stand before Him having
rejected Him, the self-conviction of via their own guilt will be totally
overwhelming, and not a matter of nuance, question, or subtlety.

Rick C. Hodgin

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If the day comes where you are called to stand before God to give an
account of your life (because you did not accept Jesus Christ), you
should remember this exchange and ask God Himself to show you where He
was during this heinous act.

His response to you will be so filled with love and compassion and immense
caring and reaching out in every way possible to encourage those involved
to not partake of the sin, that you will fall down on the floor unable to
stand (in your perfect angel-like body of immense strength and ability) for
the weeping at the beauty of His efforts in trying to prevent that act.

God is at work continually reaching out to people. But people get to make
their own choices. People are a real creation and God honors them fully,
including in their gift of volition. He warns about the ramifications of
our choices, that sin brings about eternal death in Hell. But people do
not place value on that warning, and continue on in their own wants and
wishes.

The enemy of God blinds people's eyes to the truth so that they can only
see hate, and falseness, and negativity. But for those who seek the truth,
who seek out love, God opens people's eyes so that they can see the truth,
and receive the full spectrum of love that He occupies, comforting them in
all areas of their life such that even if they die here in this world, and
even if they die here in this world in heinous ways, yet are they received
in eternity as they are known to Him for that seeking.

God is just and fair and honorable and righteous. He does not allow evil
to go unpunished, and He gifts free forgiveness of sin to all who will
receive it. And whereas those who are saved will not receive punishment
for our sin, that sin also does not go unpunished, but Jesus Himself paid
the price of our sin in Hell. He took on the punishment in our place, so
that we could be set free.

You should be careful in how you mock God. You do now know Him, and you
do not know what you are saying when you make casual claims about His
existence and attributes. You should learn more about Him. You'll find
out the truth about Him if you do.

Wouter van Ooijen

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Sep 6, 2016, 4:20:19 PM9/6/16
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Op 06-Sep-16 om 7:38 PM schreef Rick C. Hodgin:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 1:18:29 PM UTC-4, Neelam wrote:
>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Reinhardt Behm wrote:
>>>> Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>> 9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded,
>>>>> and it stood fast.
>>>> You are wrong here. In C++ we have other creators and _we_
>>>> create them. We just call them constructors.
>>> They're at notably different levels of indirection. :-)
>> Not to mention different levels of *existence*! :-)
>
> Are you so blind, Neelam? Can you look around and see evidence of the
> existence of God in all places, at all times, and in all directions?

If he is responsible for engineering the universe, life and the rest, he
is either a very incompetent enigineer, or a sadist. In both cases I
don't want anything to do with him.

Wouter "Objects? No thanks!" van Ooijen

Gareth Owen

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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:55:05 PM UTC-4, gwowen wrote:
>> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > In this crime you see the existence of sin, and the influence of the
>> > enemy I bring to your attention to
>>
>> Sorry, you said you could see God in *all* places.
>
> If the day comes where you are called to stand before God to give an
> account of your life (because you did not accept Jesus Christ), you
> should remember this exchange and ask God Himself to show you where He
> was during this heinous act.

I suppose I should be thankful that you only metaphorically force your
religion into places its not wanted.

Rick C. Hodgin

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gwowen wrote:
> I suppose I should be thankful that you only metaphorically
> force your religion into places its not wanted.

Listen to the words of this message. See for yourself if there's
any truth in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54c6b7yuKEE

Jesus cares enough about each of us to give us every opportunity,
time and time and time again, despite our unending failures
and mistakes. So patient is He. So caring.

Best regards,
Rick.C. Hodgin

Rick C. Hodgin

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On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 10:46:37 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Go to church today. Learn who it is the Christians are talking
> about when they talk about God, and what He has done, and has planned
> up ahead for each of us:
>
> http://biblehub.com/kjv/psalms/33.htm
>
> 6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens
> made; and all the host of them by the breath
> of his mouth.
>
> 7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together
> as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses.
>
> 8 Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the
> inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.
>
> 9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded,
> and it stood fast.
>
> He has glorious plans for your life, and for all of mankind. He extends
> the invitation to all. Be one who receives. Live on.

There is an active enemy at work in this world. He is invisible, but the
effects of his operations can be clearly seen. Just as we cannot see love,
but when we see the behavior of those in love we know it is love, so it is
with the actions of the enemy when we see hate and war and fighting and
strife.

-----
Here is a sermon which teaches you about that invisible war, how it is
recorded in scripture, which can then help you recognize the battles
taking place around you in your life, and why many of them are there
(hint: not every bit of strife you encounter happens just on its own):

http://www.libsf.org/video/steve_lawson__the_invisible_war.mp4

-----
This is one which explains the extent to which Jesus calls His followers
to follow Him, and one of the more difficult passages for people, where
Jesus say in order to follow Him you must hate your own mother and father,
even your own life ... what did He mean?

http://www.libsf.org/audio/steve_lawson__it_will_cost_you_everything.mp3

-----
And here is a series showing the power of the resurrection of Jesus
Christ from the dead, what it means for mankind, and for each of us
individually. Without the resurrection, Christianity has nothing to
offer beyond other religions. But because Jesus Christ died, and was
raised from death, all who put their faith in Him will never die, for
He is life and the wellspring of it:

Part 1: http://www.libsf.org/audio/steve_lawson__the_miracle_of_resurrection_part_1.mp3
Part 2: http://www.libsf.org/audio/steve_lawson__the_miracle_of_resurrection_part_2.mp3
Part 3: http://www.libsf.org/audio/steve_lawson__the_miracle_of_resurrection_part_3.mp3
Part 4: http://www.libsf.org/audio/steve_lawson__the_miracle_of_resurrection_part_4.mp3

-----
If you have questions about Jesus Christ, ask God to help you understand.
Seek out the most devout Christian family member, friend, or neighbor you
know and begin a dialogue with your questions. But beware of hypocrite
Christians. They are out there, and some are more difficult to spot than
others. But, you will know them when you find them. And when you do,
remember that the hypocrite is not Jesus Christ, but the fallen-in-sin
man or woman, and that you are in pursuit of Jesus Christ, not them.

Press in to learn about Jesus Christ and He will reveal to you as much as
you are able to receive. He'll meet you where you are in your life and
bring you forward from there. For all Christians are walk is the same,
in that it begins exactly where we are, and always extends straight ahead
to His Kingdom. We all begin at different places, but all of our walks
are straight unto Him.

I pray you will open your heart, mind, and spirit to receive the truth,
to receive Jesus Christ, and the knowledge of Him. He has grace to offer
you for your transgressions (your sin), and He has peace to bring unto
your heart, and He has joy to fill you with so that you are that best
person you can be. He makes it possible because of who He is, and what
He can do for you. He's not like the gods of other religions, but rather
He is God Almighty. When He saves a person, they are truly saved, and
there is a change which comes because of it. The born again (spirit)
nature augments our former reality so that we are no longer as we were
before, but are new creations in Christ. The old has passed, the new is
put on, and the new changes everything about your life.

What does Jesus Christ bring? Love, joy, peace, hope, and rest for your
soul. You will go to sleep each night knowing whose you are, where you
are going, and what are your goals here upon this Earth. You will have
joy welling up inside you, and coming out of the sides of your eyes. It
will be the happiest you've ever been ... but the enemy also will step up
his game and attack you where you're weakest. But even through the
attacks, yet will you have peace in your soul, and joy unspeakable. And
even though you might think you should be upset at what's going on around
you, His presence in your life will give you the calmest, coolest, most
amazing peace you've ever had. The Bible actually refers to it as "the
peace that surpasses all understanding." And I testify that it is real.

How do you learn about God? You seek Him. You ask Him to help you. You
begin as a child, believing from within, and trusting implicitly. The
enemy will try to throw up roadblocks, try to bring up your own reason
and intellect against you, prior teachings, things you've held on to before,
but God is greater than all of his lies, and you need only say within your
inner most core: "NO! I will not listen to lies. If God is real, I want
to know the truth!" The Bible records that when you seek after God, and
you submit yourself to Him, the devil will flee from you.

The devil has no power. His power base is through our acquiescing to his
temptations. But that's all he can do: tempt. He cannot force you to do
anything. He is not stronger than God. He is a defeated foe, completely
without power or authority. But we give him power and authority when we
acquiesce to his temptations through sin.

But when we seek after Jesus Christ, and pursue holiness, and say no to
sin, the devil is revealed for that which he is: impotent, powerless, and
the fully defeated weak foe that Jesus defeated at the cross. But for
those who will not believe, who are still slaves to sin, that enemy rises
up within them, within their sin, and is able to lash out and do harm.
But even the harm being done has no eternal consequences, but only is able
to do harm here on this Earth. And for all who are secure in Jesus Christ,
yet are they able to see the future in eternity, counting their lives here
as a witness for Christ, such that even if we die, yet will we live on,
and knowing all the while that it is far far better to be there in Heaven
with God, than to be here upon this Earth where the enemy comes and attacks
at every point.

-----
Jesus Christ is assurance. Hope. Salvation. Life. And truth. He is
everything you've ever been looking for, even if you didn't know it until
now. He is not the false and weak Jesus of the world, tainted by sin and
shamed by heinous acts done under the guise of "Christianity." He is The
Almighty God, Holy and true and righteous and powerful, and He will meet
every one who comes to Him as a Lamb. But He will meet everyone who
refuses Him as a Lion, because of this: Because of who He is (hope,
salvation, life, truth), all who reject Him reject those things, which is
to say they are embracing sin, embracing falseness. It is why all who do
are going to be put away into Hell forever. We are eternal beings, and
God has eternal plans for each of us. But for those who would be an
ongoing cancer to His perfect creation, they will be locked away so they
can do no harm, so they will not be an influence.

It is His greatest gift to us: free will (volition) to choose for ourselves.

Choose wisely. Choose truth. Choose love. Choose hope. Choose salvation.
Choose Jesus Christ.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Sep 7, 2016, 9:28:57 AM9/7/16
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The video link I posted pointed to a video file that had become corrupt
at some point. I've repaired it:

-----
Here is a sermon which teaches you about that invisible war, how it is
recorded in scripture, which can then help you recognize the battles
taking place around you in your life, and why many of them are there
(hint: not every bit of strife you encounter happens just on its own):

"The Invisible War" by Steve Lawson
http://www.libsf.org/video/steve_lawson__the_invisible_war.mp4

Mr Flibble

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Sep 7, 2016, 12:27:15 PM9/7/16
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Mention Jesus again and you are going straight into my killfile.

/Flibble

Gareth Owen

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Sep 7, 2016, 1:32:51 PM9/7/16
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Trouble is, three days later he comes out again.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Sep 7, 2016, 2:23:35 PM9/7/16
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Mr Flibble wrote:
> Mention Jesus again and you are going straight into my killfile.

I've been sitting here for a little while trying to figure out the
purpose of you posting such a statement. If you were truly
incensed by my posts, you would just add me to your killfile and
be done with it. No fanfare, no parade.

But as it is I'm left wondering why you would post such a reply,
and I think I've figured it out: You're looking for me to give you an
excuse for why you will stop listening to my posts. They trouble
your inmost man and that makes you uncomfortable, because you
know there's more to my posts than mere religion. You know deep
down that you do indeed need to be saved.

You are transparent, Leigh. To me, to you, to God. And you won't
get off the hook so easily. Even if you do add me to your killfile,
the uneasiness you feel on the inside won't go away. His call upon
your life is real ... and you can run, but you can't hide.

You hear His call, Leigh. He doesn't go away. His call cannot be
silenced, but rather it grows. You'll see Him everywhere, and in
things you used to look upon one way, you'll now see them differently.
You may already be experiencing this. Mine preceded by years.
Subtle things. Flowers. Birds. Squirrels. They were different in
my perception than they were years before.

That was my experience in the time leading up to my salvation in
2004. I never would've believed it possible if it hadn't happened
to me.

I wish you well, Leigh. Pride is our greatest obstacle. Once overcome,
then everything becomes better.

Wouter van Ooijen

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Sep 7, 2016, 2:36:27 PM9/7/16
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> Go to church today.
>
> I've been sitting here for a little while trying to figure out the
> purpose of you posting such a statement.

Me too, but about your statement.

Wouter "Objects? No Thanks!" van Ooijen

Mr Flibble

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Sep 7, 2016, 4:22:46 PM9/7/16
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Welcome to my killfile.

/Flibble

Real Troll

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Sep 7, 2016, 4:26:20 PM9/7/16
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On 07/09/2016 21:22, Mr Flibble wrote:
>
> Welcome to my killfile.
>
>

How many times have you said this? Is there anybody left for you to
respond to?



Öö Tiib

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I have only seen him announcing it about Jerry and Rick in this
group.
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