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Scott Meyers' new book available (as download) now

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Robert Hutchings

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Nov 14, 2014, 9:16:40 AM11/14/14
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http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920033707.do

You can also use PayPal to buy. Paperback will be out in December.

JiiPee

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Nov 14, 2014, 3:20:53 PM11/14/14
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On 14/11/2014 14:16, Robert Hutchings wrote:
> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920033707.do
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> You can also use PayPal to buy. Paperback will be out in December.

So will be propably my christmas gift.

But why one needs to buy pdf and paperback both of them? Does not make
sense to me if its one person reading both of them... It like listening
music from the CD and then copy it to mp3 to listen at car - surely not
make sense buy 2 licenses to listen your album.

One product one price!

Robert Hutchings

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Nov 14, 2014, 4:13:31 PM11/14/14
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You don't need to buy both. I bought the download and will not buy the
paperback.

JiiPee

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Nov 14, 2014, 4:18:00 PM11/14/14
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I definitely prefer the paperback... but just saying would be nice to be
able to read it on computer as well, but then they ask more money which
sounds illogical as I have a licence to read it I think.

red floyd

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Nov 14, 2014, 4:18:18 PM11/14/14
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Different strokes. I bought the dead trees, because I hate e-books.
Personal taste.


JiiPee

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Nov 14, 2014, 5:19:01 PM11/14/14
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I think books are still better for eyes. Maybe computers get better in
the future, but the colors etc are better when reading a paper book. The
"feeling" is thus better...

Mr Flibble

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Nov 14, 2014, 7:55:41 PM11/14/14
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The Kindle has e-Ink; just as easy on the eyes as paper.

/Flibble

JiiPee

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Nov 14, 2014, 8:27:16 PM11/14/14
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I know but I still think paper is better than Kindle... they surely are
not the same.... paper can be twisted for example. There is difference....

Dombo

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Nov 15, 2014, 4:32:11 AM11/15/14
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Op 15-Nov-14 2:27, JiiPee schreef:
eReaders are fine for books that you read from back to back, but for
browsing, which I often do in technical books, I prefer the dead tree
version because ePaper is annoyingly slow when flipping pages. It is a
pitty that in this case you have to pay for both versions separately.
Some publishers, like Manning, add a coupon with a code to their paper
books that allows you to download the electronic version for free so you
get the best of both worlds.

JiiPee

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Nov 15, 2014, 7:28:26 AM11/15/14
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yes exactly. If I ever make a book, the one who buys my paper back gets
pdf also for free. As I said, its definitely the same as somebody buying
a music CD record and then making a mp3 copy of it and listening it when
jogging. Why would they need to buy another mp3 for the same record as
they already bought one license?

seeplus

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Nov 15, 2014, 7:54:32 PM11/15/14
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I have several readers.
They suffer from a very annoying problem of when you are on a train or
similar and you are holding onto the device it is easy to accidentally tap
somewhere on the screen, and it goes away and does that random command.

You then have to setup everything all the way back to where you were reading,
not knowing what was the operation that the Ereader actually performed.

They really do need a hardware finger interlock key somewhere that you need to
hold down when you want to do something major.

Louis Krupp

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Nov 17, 2014, 3:00:00 AM11/17/14
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You don't have to pay full retail for both the e-book and the
paperback. The paperback alone is $49.99, and for $5.00 more, you can
download the e-book, too. It's not free, but it doesn't sound too
unreasonable.

Louis

red floyd

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Nov 17, 2014, 12:29:45 PM11/17/14
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On 11/15/2014 1:33 AM, Dombo wrote:
> eReaders are fine for books that you read from back to back, but for
> browsing, which I often do in technical books, I prefer the dead tree
> version because ePaper is annoyingly slow when flipping pages. It is a
> pitty that in this case you have to pay for both versions separately.
> Some publishers, like Manning, add a coupon with a code to their paper
> books that allows you to download the electronic version for free so you
> get the best of both worlds.

I just read this morning about the latest Kindle which will let you
(metaphorically) stick your finger between the pages while flipping
back or forward to look at something else.

Still doesn't change my opinion on e-books, though.


JiiPee

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Nov 17, 2014, 1:42:09 PM11/17/14
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Yes true , that sounds reasonable, although I would have still given it
for free for paper back buyers as there is not extra cost for giving it.

Robert Hutchings

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Nov 17, 2014, 1:44:59 PM11/17/14
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I like having the PDF...you can search for keywords and copy/paste code
from the PDF into the editor or IDE or your choice. That said, a
physical book is very nice for "just reading". I don't think O'Reilly
gives you the option to buy the book AND download the PDF/EPub/Mobi...?

Louis Krupp

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Nov 17, 2014, 2:00:27 PM11/17/14
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They do. For $54.99, I can download a PDF file, which I've just done,
and the book should arrive whenever it's ready.

Whether or not I'll understand everything that's in the book is
another story...

Louis

JiiPee

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Nov 17, 2014, 3:44:15 PM11/17/14
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But certainly you will be more skillful after reading it... it cannot go
wrong

Robert Hutchings

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Nov 17, 2014, 4:53:04 PM11/17/14
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Louis, how did you get the PDF download AND the paperback book? Was this on http://shop.oreilly.com?

Louis Krupp

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Nov 18, 2014, 10:37:38 AM11/18/14
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:52:51 -0800 (PST), Robert Hutchings
<rm.hut...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>Louis, how did you get the PDF download AND the paperback book? Was this on http://shop.oreilly.com?

Yes. I followed the link in your original post (thank you for that,
by the way), and I clicked on "Print & Ebook" under "Buying Options"
on the top right.

Louis

Robert Hutchings

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Nov 18, 2014, 10:56:16 AM11/18/14
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Okay, I didn't see that. Maybe I can still get the book if I have
purchased the PDF download...

seeplus

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Nov 18, 2014, 10:16:42 PM11/18/14
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Be careful if you are not in the US.
OReilly usually only provide just one option of 2 day international delivery @ $49.50, not exactly what you want if you already have the PDF.

This makes it cheaper to buy somewhere with a discount and buy the Ebook separately :(

Robert Hutchings

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Nov 19, 2014, 9:00:00 AM11/19/14
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Well, I contacted O'Reilly to see if I could get the book in addition to
my PDF download. Waiting for an answer now...

Louis Krupp

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Dec 1, 2014, 4:39:41 AM12/1/14
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Cyber Monday sale on EBooks:

http://www.oreilly.com/

Louis
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