Users needed

[woodb...@gmail.com]

Shalom

I'm looking for someone interested in using my messaging
and serialization library:
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards

. I'll spend 16 hours/week for six months on your
project if we use my software as part of the project.
More info here: http://webEbenezer.net/about.html
.


Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoying programming again.
http://webEbenezer.net

[David Brown]

On 25/10/2019 04:39, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
> Shalom
>
> I'm looking for someone interested in using my messaging
> and serialization library:
> https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
>
> . I'll spend 16 hours/week for six months on your
> project if we use my software as part of the project.
> More info here: http://webEbenezer.net/about.html
> .
>

You do realise that spam is not appreciated in this group?

If you want to talk about C++ aspects of your project, great. If you
want to advertise your commercial company, do it elsewhere.

(And my advice is don't advertise like that - it makes you sound utterly
desperate. If you have been working on this system for years, and you
have to offer heavy bribes to have any chance of getting a single user,
then you should be questioning the business sense of the project.)

[Bonita Montero]

There are already good serialization-frameworks like Google Protocol
Buffers which are far supoerior to your rudimentary code.

[Öö Tiib]

On Friday, 25 October 2019 10:12:22 UTC+3, David Brown wrote:
> On 25/10/2019 04:39, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Shalom
> >
> > I'm looking for someone interested in using my messaging
> > and serialization library:
> > https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
> >
> > . I'll spend 16 hours/week for six months on your
> > project if we use my software as part of the project.
> > More info here: http://webEbenezer.net/about.html
> > .
> >
>
> You do realise that spam is not appreciated in this group?
>
> If you want to talk about C++ aspects of your project, great. If you
> want to advertise your commercial company, do it elsewhere.

That isn't even spam. That middleware writer has been in same
hard-to understand state for more than decade. Perhaps it is
search for email correspondents.

> (And my advice is don't advertise like that - it makes you sound utterly
> desperate. If you have been working on this system for years, and you
> have to offer heavy bribes to have any chance of getting a single user,
> then you should be questioning the business sense of the project.)

It is perhaps not bribe but absolute must ... without woodbrian
no one can imagine how to integrate that thing into anything.
Competitors offer well-documented header only library under
BSD license like that: <https://github.com/USCiLab/cereal>
So he has to provide something to overcome that chasm of
difference in ease of usage.

[Juha Nieminen]

David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 25/10/2019 04:39, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Shalom
>>
>> I'm looking for someone interested in using my messaging
>> and serialization library:
>> https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
>>
>> . I'll spend 16 hours/week for six months on your
>> project if we use my software as part of the project.
>> More info here: http://webEbenezer.net/about.html
>> .
>>
>
> You do realise that spam is not appreciated in this group?
>
> If you want to talk about C++ aspects of your project, great. If you
> want to advertise your commercial company, do it elsewhere.

To be completely honest, I think you are being a bit too harsh,
probably based on his past behavior in this newsgroup.

> (And my advice is don't advertise like that - it makes you sound utterly
> desperate. If you have been working on this system for years, and you
> have to offer heavy bribes to have any chance of getting a single user,
> then you should be questioning the business sense of the project.)

But you may have a point there.

[David Brown]

On 25/10/2019 13:11, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>> On 25/10/2019 04:39, woodb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Shalom
>>>
>>> I'm looking for someone interested in using my messaging
>>> and serialization library:
>>> https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
>>>
>>> . I'll spend 16 hours/week for six months on your
>>> project if we use my software as part of the project.
>>> More info here: http://webEbenezer.net/about.html
>>> .
>>>
>>
>> You do realise that spam is not appreciated in this group?
>>
>> If you want to talk about C++ aspects of your project, great. If you
>> want to advertise your commercial company, do it elsewhere.
>
> To be completely honest, I think you are being a bit too harsh,
> probably based on his past behavior in this newsgroup.

As I understand it (and I hope he'll correct any mistakes I make), he is
running a company based on software services, including this
"middleware". He does not charge any money for this serialisation
library or the use of his "online generator", but is presumably hoping
that people who use it will pay for other development services. He has
offered sponsorship money and time resources to anyone using the
middleware - this is clearly a business prospect, with the expectation
that the user will pay for other services or at least provide a
reference as advertising for other customers.

His post is therefore an unsolicited commercial post - spam.

If one of the more helpful posters in the group were to make a small,
one-off announcement of a new and exciting product they had made, I
think many people would not object. But a substantial proportion of
Brian's posts are spam like this, or direct requests for other people to
support his commercial work with reviews, suggestions, and other help -
often such spam hijacks other people's threads. (I am quite happy with
his on-topic posts and discussions about C++.)

No, I don't think I am being too harsh - and yes, this is because of his
past behaviour in this newsgroup.

>
>> (And my advice is don't advertise like that - it makes you sound utterly
>> desperate. If you have been working on this system for years, and you
>> have to offer heavy bribes to have any chance of getting a single user,
>> then you should be questioning the business sense of the project.)
>
> But you may have a point there.
>

My advice here was given sincerely. I don't think it is right for him
to post spam in this group, but I am still happy to give suggestions to
help his business.

[Keith Thompson]

David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]

> His post is therefore an unsolicited commercial post - spam.

[...]

Spam needn't be commercial. (This is a small quibble, not affecting
your main point.)

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks...@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */