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Jouko Koski

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May 29, 2018, 6:47:18 AM5/29/18
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Bjarne Stroustrup himself is expressing some concerns about the C++
language development:

http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2018/p0977r0.pdf

I'm afraid that some of these concerns should have applied already
in earlier rounds of the standardization, but it is good that they
are stated at least now.

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Jouko

Alf P. Steinbach

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May 29, 2018, 10:24:20 AM5/29/18
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Strong words,

> Together [the proposals] are insanity to the point of endangering the
> future of C++


… but he's right on the mark.


Cheers!,

- Alf

Scott Lurndal

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May 29, 2018, 11:45:14 AM5/29/18
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That horse left the stable after C++11.

woodb...@gmail.com

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May 29, 2018, 1:48:59 PM5/29/18
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It's hard to imagine C++ 2020 being a big success.
I hope it won't be a dud, but ...


Brian
Ebenzer Enterprises
http://webEbenezer.net

Jorgen Grahn

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May 30, 2018, 7:19:31 AM5/30/18
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On Tue, 2018-05-29, Jouko Koski wrote:
> Bjarne Stroustrup himself is expressing some concerns about the C++
> language development:
>
> http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2018/p0977r0.pdf

Good. People (hopefully) listen to Stroustrup, and I'm happy to see
that he hasn't join the ADD school of language design. (I wasn't
aware the committee had gotten that feature-happy though; that's a
bit worrying.)

/Jorgen

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Thiago Adams

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May 30, 2018, 9:42:14 AM5/30/18
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Some C++ programmers were waiting someone else to say that
C++ is becoming too complex, and now they will be
more comfortable to repeat that.

"Modern C++" become a bad adjective in my option.





Jorgen Grahn

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May 30, 2018, 10:53:32 AM5/30/18
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On Wed, 2018-05-30, Thiago Adams wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 7:47:18 AM UTC-3, Jouko Koski wrote:
>> Bjarne Stroustrup himself is expressing some concerns about the C++
>> language development:
>>
>> http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2018/p0977r0.pdf
>>
>> I'm afraid that some of these concerns should have applied already
>> in earlier rounds of the standardization, but it is good that they
>> are stated at least now.
>
> Some C++ programmers were waiting someone else to say that
> C++ is becoming too complex, and now they will be
> more comfortable to repeat that.

In my case, I respect Stroustrup for his good taste in language
design, and haven't followed the ISO work in detail ...

Doesn't mean I will join the small Usenet choir of whiners anytime
soon.

> "Modern C++" become a bad adjective in my option.

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