The Rapture (Reprise ad infinitum)

[Rick C. Hodgin]

The rapture will happen soon; the last ones didn't happen because reasons.

--

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

[Rick C. Hodgin]

Reported to ab...@giganews.com

-----
For those being confused by these impersonation posts, please examine
the headers. I, the real Rick C. Hodgin, post from Google Groups or
Eternal September, from Indianapolis, IN. The impersonation posts
are from Giganews and originate in England, and he uses a slightly
different signature and posts under the name "Rick C. Hodgin
Enterprises" to differentiate his posts so they sneak in below
Giganews' threshold for what constitutes an impersonation post. To
Giganews, apparently using someone's name and email address is not
sufficient to be considered an impersonation post, or they simply do
not care about it.

Leigh Johnston (Mr. Flibble) has taken to impersonating me on these
posts in comp.lang.c++. User "fir" was tricked by him today. The
confusion he's creating is unfortunate, and I apologize for his
confusing intrusion into your life.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[mche...@gmail.com]

Rick C. Hodgin於 2018年1月7日星期日 UTC+8上午2時37分08秒寫道：

Rick c. Hodgin's mother is died by cancer, god did a good job

[Juha Nieminen]

Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 1:11:30 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> The rapture will happen soon; the last ones didn't happen because reasons.
>

> Reported to ab...@giganews.com

Why don't you just shut up, you fucking spammer? Go to hell.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:17:59 AM UTC-5, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 1:11:30 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >> The rapture will happen soon; the last ones didn't happen because reasons.
> >
> > Reported to ab...@giganews.com
>

> Why don't you just shut up, you .. spammer? Go to hell.

This is a serious question:

Why do I post about Jesus?

Do you REALLY think it's just to spam?

--
Rick C. Hodgin

PS -- Jesus changed my life in 2004. Unexpectedly. Unbelievably
to my natural senses. The spirit nature is real. It is His free
gift to us when we acknowledge and ask forgiveness for our sin.

[David Brown]

On 09/01/18 11:35, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:17:59 AM UTC-5, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 1:11:30 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> The rapture will happen soon; the last ones didn't happen because reasons.
>>>
>>> Reported to ab...@giganews.com
>>
>> Why don't you just shut up, you .. spammer? Go to hell.
>
> This is a serious question:
>
> Why do I post about Jesus?
>
> Do you REALLY think it's just to spam?
>

I don't believe /you/ think this is spam - I believe you genuinely think
the stuff you post is important and everyone should read it and learn
from it. But nobody /does/ read it, nobody gets your message, nobody
thinks it is important. To everyone else, it is spam (or trolling, or
some other kind of off-topic and unwanted post).

Please try to see this from other peoples' viewpoint, not just your own.

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 5:35:47 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> Do you REALLY think it's just to spam?
>

Yes. You like the attention, and it makes you feel important. Even though Jesus doesn't want you to do it.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

That is one possibility. There are others as well. Do not so easily
or quickly discount them. The impact Jesus has on a person's life
changes the sinner into a born again person. People world-wide leave
jobs, leave homes, change their entire life to go out and reach the
people who are important to them. You all are important to me, and
my mission field are those areas of my life to which I have personal
interests.

FWIW, I receive a tremendous amount of pain from my outreach on these
groups. I receive a nonstop influx of people posting comments as you
do or worse. It is heart-wrenching, but I know why those comments are
there, and it means something to me to try to educate people against
those things the world teaches them about Christ, and to get people to
look to Him for themselves, to taste and see for themselves that the
Lord is good.

My best offering to you, Daniel. I'm saddened you don't see it (who
Jesus truly is, and why you need Him).

--
Thank you! | Indianapolis, Indiana | God is love -- 1 John 4:7-9
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[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:22:53 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

Jesus doesn't want you to spam usenet, Rick. I would suggest that you try the
following experiment. Have a talk with your pastor. Show him these exchanges
and ask him if what your're doing is what Jesus would want, even though
people don't want it and you're driving them away.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

I have spoken with many Christians about my posts here.

The message I post is simple, and it is for all people, including the
people here:

(1) You have sin.
(2) Sin will condemn your soul to Hell.
(3) God knows this, so He came in to the Earth to rescue us.
(4) Jesus came to take away our sin.
(5) This restores us to God, and frees us from judgment.

Jesus came in to the world to save human souls from death in Hell.

It is important, Daniel. That's why I post.

And for the record, nobody goes away from this message because I am
spamming. They go away because they don't want to hear the message,
or cannot hear the message.

Only those who have been internally drawn by God will be able to
hear it:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A44&version=KJV

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me
draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The message is for them. Not for everybody else. And I can assure
you there are people who are moved by these messages. Over the years,
many have contacted me saying the same. But even many true believing
Christians are not very active in their faith, and they are condemned
by my actions, and cite them as incorrect because I'm not behaving
like other Christians.

If all I did was espouse doctrine, that would be one thing, but I
have also placed all of my software before mankind under a type of
Public Domain license. I am giving away my labor so that people can
have benefits from my software. I've done this since July 2012 now,
and literally people have RUN AWAY from my work like you wouldn't
believe.

You put Jesus on something ... and unless a person is born again,
they do not want it because the flesh is in sin, and the flesh cannot
know Jesus Christ, and when something comes at their flesh with Jesus
attached to it, they run.

I pray you come to understand this, Daniel. Take care.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Rick C. Hodgin]

Here is my source code:

https://github.com/RickCHodgin/libsf/tree/master/backup

Here is my license:

https://github.com/RickCHodgin/libsf/blob/master/backup/pbl_v1.txt

It reads in part:

License

This license releases the software and digital work into the
Public Domain forever, with the following consideration:

It is the intention of the LibSF authors that all of our work
remain open. We ask you to honor that request and always
maintain the digital content you have received from us (source
code, multimedia, and all other forms) in an open manner. In
addition, we request that all changes and extensions you make
to that content also be made available for others to enjoy,
in the same source code form, with all documentation, just as
you received it from us, for we are all here upon this Earth
together, and each of us can help the other grow and prosper.

We at LibSF offer this content into the Public Domain knowing
that it can also be taken and usurped for purposes other than
those the authors desire and state above, so in addition we
include this warning, a reminder of accountability:

Each of us was created by God for a purpose. We have been
assembled here upon this planet to live and work together for
the benefit and betterment of all. God has doled out unique
and special skills, talents, and abilities, as He has done,
severally, to each of us. It must therefore be recognized
that each of us is part of the full gift of giving unto man,
and as a body is comprised of many members, each with their
part, so too are we part of this body of man.

To sum up: We give you the same request God gave us:

Do as we are asking, remembering that you will be judged by God
based on your choices with regards to our asking.

People can take my software and usurp it for other purposes, just as
people do in this world with everything God has given us. But, such
a usurping comes with a price ... damnation.

> You put Jesus on something ... and unless a person is born again,
> they do not want it because the flesh is in sin, and the flesh cannot
> know Jesus Christ, and when something comes at their flesh with Jesus
> attached to it, they run.
>
> I pray you come to understand this, Daniel. Take care.

Each of us reveals who we are continually by our choices. The teachings
of Christ guide people to remember Him ahead of other things, so that
their choices are always deferring to Him and His correct, right, true,
and proper guidance for our lives, and the lives of everyone around us.

The people need to hear these teachings. They don't come from our
silence. The enemy's voice comes from our silence. But for those who
are born again, God's voice must be elevated ahead of other voices.

Again, I pray you come to understand this, Daniel. Take care.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:39:18 AM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:

Can you see this tweet?

https://twitter.com/jcims_/status/950734556344172544

"I used to live for the approval of others, but now I live for
the approval of God."

The Christian life is that way: in submission to God. It is seeking
to please Him first, as we are led by the spirit of God and not by our
flesh, and we are in obedience to His command to teach others as we go:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+28%3A18-20&version=KJV

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded
you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the
world. Amen.

Those who are His teach His words despite what others say. Even when
questioned by the authorities, Peter and John responded to them stating
they would hearken unto God ahead of man's contrary guidance. This
relates back to Matthew 28:18 above and "all power" being given to
Jesus:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+4%3A19&version=KJV

19 But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be
right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto
God, judge ye.

Note: I post this for everyone's sake, not just yours, Daniel.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Scott Lurndal]

"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> writes:

> Why do I post about Jesus?

Because you need to justify yourself
by convincing others that your delusions are reality.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

That is one possibility. You should read my reply to Daniel. It is
more interesting than a single one liner. It also has the virtue of
being the correct answer.

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:51:10 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:39:18 AM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:

> > Have a talk with your pastor.
>

> I have spoken with many Christians about my posts here.
>

You're equivocating. So I repeat: have a talk with your pastor about this.
Your pastor will tell you the same that I have, that Jesus doesn't want you to spam usenet.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 10:43:38 AM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:51:10 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:39:18 AM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
> > > Have a talk with your pastor.
> > I have spoken with many Christians about my posts here.
> You're equivocating. So I repeat: have a talk with your pastor about this.

Thank you for your advice.

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 11:15:17 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> Thank you for your advice.
>

You're welcome. When you go to see your pastor, bring examples of your posts
and the feedback from members, as well as the charter for the newsgroup. It will be good for you to get feedback from a leader in your fellowship
community.

[Chris Vine]

After some posts of Rick's on this newsgroup last December, I have
changed my mind and taken the view that it is best not to reply to him,
and you and others might like to do the same, even when he is on topic.

I say this because replies to him operate on the basis that he is open
to persuasion that his approach to posting is both anti-social and
counter to his desire to save souls. The flaw in this seems to me to
be that he is not open to persuasion. It seems from some surprisingly
candid posts that he made in December about his own private life
(assuming it was really him) that he had a nervous breakdown, or
something like it, a little over a decade ago. He seems seized by
self-doubt and the need to prove himself to God, or in his words in
order that "I will stand before the Lord having attempted in many ways
to reach you and the others here. I will be guiltless before Him in
this regard, though it cost me much pain ...".

In other words he is on an obsessive "prove myself to God" trip, leaving
him in a perfect bind. He is compelled to annoy people to justify
himself at the final judgement (even though he would probably argue
that there is no salvation by works). And protestations on this
newsgroup, about his behaviour, serve only as evidence that Satan is at
work in opposition to his (Rick's) "teaching", so he needs to try even
harder than before. The more people protest, the more evidence there
is that his "teaching" is having an effect by stirring up the Enemy
against him.

There is no ending to this. Reason would dictate that now that his
"teaching" has already been given to everyone reading this newsgroup
numerous, numerous times, he would be better off letting this
"teaching" sink in and stop annoying people. This is not how he
thinks, or is capable of thinking.

Chris

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 12:44:01 PM UTC-5, Chris Vine wrote:
> After some posts of Rick's on this newsgroup last December...

Those were not my posts. Peter Cheung was impersonating me heavily
during that time. And Leigh Johnston also began impersonating me,
and he continues to this day.

Examine the headers on any post in question. I post only through
Google Groups or Eternal September, from Indianapolis, IN, using the
user name "Rick C. Hodgin" and email address "rick.c...@gmail.com."

Leigh posts through giganews.com. Peter's posts came through aioe.org.

I do not post under other identities, nor other posting authorities.
I have been the victim of attacks by individuals who seek to do harm
to the message.

Will someone please re-post this so Chris Vine can read it?

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Chris Vine]

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:59:08 -0800 (PST)

"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

Your posts are not automatically deleted, instead (a) I don't read them
except when they are in direct reply to a posting of mine, and (b) I
have concluded that responding to you is a waste of time, or rather
makes things worse. (Oh dear, I have failed again.)

But on a point of fact, the posts I am thinking about are those you made
culminating in yours of December 8, 2017 at 11:56:05 AM UTC-5, in which
you said you are still in recovery from your experiences, and gave
other details which led me to believe that you are ill and had acquired
the other unhelpful attributes to which I referred in my post. This is
why I no longer think it worth appealing to reason on your part.

Please don't reply (unless it is to say that the post to which I
have referred above was not from you).

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-5, Chris Vine wrote:
> But on a point of fact, the posts I am thinking about are those you made
> culminating in yours of December 8, 2017 at 11:56:05 AM UTC-5, in which
> you said you are still in recovery from your experiences, and gave

> other details...

The recovery I am under means during that time from 2008-2009 when I
was in sin, there was damage done to my life. It has persisted since
that time. It would be like having an old football injury that never
really goes away, but is always there popping back up from time to
time.

Sin has consequences. They do not magically go away. But those scars
also keep you focused. I actually have a literal scar on my left palm
where I was injured at a welding job during that time. I look at that
scar from time to time and remember where I was when I got it. It
honestly does help keep me on the strait-and-narrow because I never,
ever, ever, want to go through anything like that again.

But I can understand your position regarding me. It's hard to look
at someone who has overt sin in their life and believe anything they
have to say ... even if that sin was from many years ago.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Chris Vine]

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:22:51 -0800 (PST)

"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But I can understand your position regarding me. It's hard to look
> at someone who has overt sin in their life and believe anything they
> have to say ... even if that sin was from many years ago.

Oh for goodness sake: I am going to have to break my rule again. I
have made no judgement on this aspect of your life at all, nor would I
ever do so. It seems highly probable that you have been forgiven.
Receiving absolution ought to rest your mind. You, however, have not
forgiven yourself.

I think in consequence you are a much disturbed person.

Those who are ill amongst us are not large in number proportionally, but
unfortunately they can have an adverse impact on others which is
disproportionate to that number.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

I am not ill. People would look at me in my faith and say I am ill in
that regard, but as for mental illness and what not no. It is only
that I truly do care about people.

To put my psyche into perspective, the two best TV shows I've ever
seen:

The Encounter 2016 (available on PureFlix)

When Calls The Heart (except parts of season 2; available on
Hallmark channel, Netflix, Amazon Video, and others).

Both of those series have me crying throughout the episodes. They are
moving in how they portray love for God, and love for one another. It
is those things which move me, and it is for those reasons I move.

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:50:50 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> mental illness

Obsessively spamming a usenet community to the consternation of its members is
very definitely a form of mental illness. Talk to your pastor, explain what
you're doing, you'll receive feedback that will be far more valuable than any
you'll receive here, because it will be presented in a loving way. Take
advantage of your fellowship circle, and use its resources to help you get
well.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

FWIW, Daniel:

I have spoken with my pastor about my online activity previously. I
ask for prayers for this community each week at Bible Study. I have
specific names at times (lately Peter Cheung, Mr. Man-wai Chang, and
a few others). Other times I ask more generally for those people I
know and do outreach to online.

If you examine my online activity in these regards, you'll find that
they are rolled out on a cadence. They come from me doing an at-my-
church Bible Study, or watching a Christian teacher online, or hearing
a church sermon or teaching message, and I am inspired by those things
and post about them.

Most all of my other Christian-related posts relate back to correcting
other posters who post something contrary to what the Bible teaches.

The entirety of my online outreach is a teaching ministry. I teach
people the things of Christ they will not hear in the world, and also
won't even hear in many lukewarm churches.

If you want to compare my teachings to the teachings given by the
"great men of God" over the years, visit http://www.sermonindex.net
and listen to some of those pastors from decades gone by.

You'll find that my teachings are not out of line. They are in line
with what has historically been the core of Biblical Christianity,
but that society has changed and the new watered down message of all-
inclusiveness (even of gay lifestyles, abortion, divorce, etc.), as
regular practical norms, are what has moved away from historical roots.

Also, compare the text of the King James Bible to that of the more
modern translations. Gail Riplinger did some research on this at a
time when she was unexpectedly infirmed, and it carried forward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyx3IDzFglI

What we see in the last 50 years is not what Christianity has been
previously. The enemy has entered into the church and our lives, and
has tried to dictate what aspects of the Bible are valid.

True born again Christians are taking it back.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 2:24:41 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> I have spoken with my pastor about my online activity previously.

Did you tell your pastor you were posting material in a group that was clearly
contrary to the charter of the group, that the members felt was harmful to
their community, that they gave you feedback about that, and asked you to stop
doing it? If your pastor was aware of this background, could you tell us what he said to you about it?

[Rick C. Hodgin]

I told him that where I go in my life I teach people, be I at a gas
station, at the store, post office, at work, even online.

There are many people in my church who think I'm crazy. They do not
see value in the things I do, including non-online-teaching things,
but even the things I do in my life. I had one member get very upset
at me, and rebuke me in front of the whole church in the sanctuary,
for telling her privately that she shouldn't be posting profanity on
Facebook. She said I had no right to judge her in that way.

Other people come up to me and tell me I'm inspirational to their walk,
and they're so glad I am in the church.

It all comes down to the person's walk with Jesus. Either they are sold
out to Him in their lives, or they are still holding on to their flesh.

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

> There are many people in my church who ... do not

> see value in the things I do

Yes, it did seem to me, from the equivocation, that there must have been some gentle remonstrances there, or as you suggest, perhaps not so gentle :-) I would suggest that feedback is a valuable thing, and that most systems whether control, biological, political, or economic benefit from feedback. I believe that some of the things that you do are incompatible with the Christian traditions of "do unto others ...", "give unto Ceasar ..." etc., and I think that some of the feedback you are receiving reflects that. I personally think you should listen to it, particularly if it comes from your pastor.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:45:46 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> > There are many people in my church who ... do not
> > see value in the things I do
>

> ...I would suggest that feedback is a valuable thing...

I look for my feedback from spirit-filled Biblical sources, not the
mainstream churchianity.

As I stated, Daniel, visit http://www.sermonindex.net and listen to
some of the sermons there. You'll find my teachings are wholly in
line with those towering giants of years gone by. In fact, a lot of
my teaching comes from listening to their sermons.

I appreciate your feedback, Daniel, but you do not have goals which
are to pursue God in spirit and in truth. You are looking for majority
rule. That has no part of a true Christian's life. A true Christian
will stand up for Christ at all points. That is what I do, to the best
of my ability.

[Ian Collins]

On 01/09/2018 11:35 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 1:17:59 AM UTC-5, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 1:11:30 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>> The rapture will happen soon; the last ones didn't happen because reasons.
>>>
>>> Reported to ab...@giganews.com
>>
>> Why don't you just shut up, you .. spammer? Go to hell.
>
> This is a serious question:
>
> Why do I post about Jesus?
>
> Do you REALLY think it's just to spam?

I read about this as a kid, now after exposure to Rick my sympathies lie
with the locals...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1560483/Cannibal-tribe-apologises-for-eating-Methodists.html

--
Ian

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:54:57 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:45:46 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >
> > > There are many people in my church who ... do not
> > > see value in the things I do
> >
> > ...I would suggest that feedback is a valuable thing...
>

> you do not have goals which are to pursue God in spirit

No, not the mythical side, because there is no evidence for that, anymore than there is for the "truth" of Zeus or Odin, and both reason and modern scholarship auger against it. And you do not have goals to pursue modern scholarship, at least biblical. I still think you should take seriously feedback from your pastor and fellowship group. Funny things can happen in our heads when we come to believe that only we know the truth.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 4:27:05 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:54:57 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:45:46 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:08:51 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > >
> > > > There are many people in my church who ... do not
> > > > see value in the things I do
> > >
> > > ...I would suggest that feedback is a valuable thing...
> >
> > you do not have goals which are to pursue God in spirit
>

> No, not the mythical side, because there is no evidence...

Not everybody will be saved, Daniel.

Evidence comes from the spirit. A person cannot come to Jesus unless
they are drawn from within by God. Once they are drawn they ask Him
to forgive their sin, they are forgiven. This restores them to a
right-standing with God, and the punishment of sin (spiritual death)
is taken away. This makes them alive again in the spirit, born again.

They are still attached to this old man flesh, but their existence is
augmented by the new thing. It is from within that new augment that
God is able to prove Himself to each person. The term you hear people
say is they "know that they know that they know" that they're saved.
It is not from natural senses, but is from the spirit.

There are also evil spirit influences in this world, which lead people
continually to sin. They can also give a person a "spiritual feeling,"
but it does not last, and is not naturally moving toward Jesus Christ.

This is the truth, Daniel. You do not know it because you are not
seeking for the truth. You are standing in your arrogance and pride
believing you are correct, shooting down things I would teach you
about Christianity. That inability you have to seek the truth is why
you are not drawn by God to it, because God only draws those to find
the truth who are truly seeking for it.

Good day, Daniel.

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 4:39:52 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

> standing in your arrogance and pride believing you are correct

I think that applies to you, Rick :-) And I think the members of your church
realize that too. Stuff may be materializing inside your head, illusions of
being a great teacher, but I don't share that experience, I can't relate to
it, just as I don't share the great mathematician John Nash's experience that
aliens were trying to communicate with him through the New York Times
classifieds. These are things, I'm afraid, that are highly unlikely to be true, even if they seem real to you.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

As Jesus said:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A21-23&version=KJV

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth
the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we
not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast
out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you:
depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Satan has entered the church and has people wrapped up in churchiosity,
and religion, and people move by rote in their own power, and not by
the spirit of God ... so much so that when men and women like me show
up teaching to really obey and teach about Jesus, we appear so far out
of the norm that we are shunned, mistreated, berated, called names,
cast out of circles, beaten, mocked, and more:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A11-12&version=KJV

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and
persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil
against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your
reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets
which were before you.

It has always been that way for the true servants of God. Even Jesus
Himself was rejected and accused of working by demon power, killed by
the very people He came to save.

Someday you will know the truth. I pray it's sooner rather than later.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Mr Flibble]

Daniel, please don't reply again as it would be the same as hitting your
head against a brick wall. The stubborn unmovable obtuseness of Hodgin
is too great to comprehend.

/Flibble
--
"Suppose it’s all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I’d say, bone cancer in children? What’s that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It’s not right, it’s utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates
a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That’s what I would say."

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 7:28:13 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> Satan has entered the church ...

Rick, your sentences remind me of Old Betsy, who lived in a small village
and said that if god had meant there to be gay people, he would have made Adam
and Steve rather than Adam and Eve. It was hard to argue with Old Betsy :-) But we live in the modern world, where arguments matter, reasons matter, research matters, and religious traditions are the subject of scholarly study.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

It's about your sin and Jesus on the cross, Daniel.

You've been taught the truth. You will receive it or reject it.
Make it a wise choice.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Daniel]

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 8:02:07 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >
> > Rick, your sentences remind me of Old Betsy, who lived in a small village
> > and said that if god had meant there to be gay people, he would have made Adam
> > and Steve rather than Adam and Eve. It was hard to argue with Old Betsy :-) But we live in the modern world, where arguments matter, reasons matter, research matters, and religious traditions are the subject of scholarly study.
>
> It's about your sin

You probably read my snippet about Old Betsy, and thought to yourself, "Old
Betsy makes sense." Just like one or two of the old villagers, with knowing
looks on their faces, nodding sagely to themselves. It's a way of thinking
that's past and done, there's new thinking pushing through, has been for a
few centuries. But there'll always be an Old Betsy, and I suppose, an Old Rick.

I still think you should listen to your pastor and the fellowship in your faith community. It seems to me your mind, perhaps like Old Betsy's, is fundamentally binary, either the old texts are in totality inerrant, or they're a complete hoax. Not being able to countenance the latter, you choose the former. But I think you'll find that most Christians have a more subtle and sophisticated, a more nuanced, a more modern, interpretation of the texts, as, of course, do many non-believers. Not everyone, of course, the proof of being Old Betsy.