Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
Again about Allah or God...
19 views
Skip to first unread message
Horizon68
Sep 27, 2018, 5:28:05 PM9/27/18
to
Hello....
Again about Allah or God...
As i said that Allah or God is not science or technology,
he is not artificial intelligence, his nature has nothing to
do with science and technology, this is why the Quran
was not science and technology ! i think the world of Allah or God
is of a different nature, he is like the souls or the spirits !
and now you are understanding why the prophet Mohamed was "handicaped"
thinking because it was not thinking of science and technology !
because Allah or God is not science and technology !
Read again to understand my following thoughts:
Who is Allah or God ?
You have seen me doing political philosophy here,
and I think i have understood what is Allah or God !
I think Allah or God is a Spirit(like a soul), and the world of Allah or
God is a world of spirits(like souls) ! this is the limitation !
because Allah or God can not act on the physical world ! he only
can act on the spiritual world(or the souls !), this is why Allah or God
can not do anything for you over this earth ! but Allah or God will
welcome your soul after your death ! so this is why you have to
transcend you living conditions by for example doing science and
technology and this is why i am doing more serious computer programming
and this is why i am doing political philosophy here.
This is why i said the following:
I am an Islam that is different..
And I don't believe in the Islam of ISIS or Al Qaida..
I am an Islam that is more "sophisticated", this is why
i am doing political philosophy here..
I give you an example:
When in Islam the Quran says that we have to cut off the hand of the
thief by refusing compassion on him even if he is poor and has stolen he
stole a "small" amount of money, this is not "logical", because God can
not say this stupidity, so from here you can understand that the Quran
is a mixture of God writing and of the human prophet writing, so
from here we can say that God has also let the prophet Mohamed
that is human to write rules in the Quran to also govern with the
prophet Mohamed rules that contain human defectuosities such as the rule
of of cutting the hand of a thief, this why the Quran is
not only from God but it is also from human that we call prophet
Mohamed, so Islam of today is not Islam that is
logical for our today world ! so i think that in Islam we have to retain
the very important of Islam that is we have to believe in Allah
and be guided by this our believing in Allah, not by the Quran or
by Islam.
In christianity also there is logical contradictions such
as you can do more and more sins but if you come in the end to
Jesus christ and you repent and you believe in him , you will be saved !
this is not logical either.
So i think that in Islam we have to retain the very important of Islam
that is we have to believe in Allah and be guided by our believing in
Allah, not by the Quran and not by Islam, so we have not to believe in
the Bible or the Quran or Christianity or Islam.
And read the following:
You will say that God doesn't exist, but read the following(read
especially the outer body experience of the 57-year old man below):
"A University of Southampton study has revealed that people could still
experience consciousness for up to three minutes after the heart stops
beating.
The study interviewed 2,060 patients from Austria, USA and the UK who
have all suffered a cardiac arrest.
The Express reports that 40% could recall some form of awareness after
being pronounced clinically dead.
One 57-year old man seemed to confirm an outer body experience by
recalling everything that was going on around him with eerie accuracy
while he was technically dead."
Read more here:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/516195/university-southampton-study-science-life-death-hell-heaven
And read the following:
Does God exists ?
You will say that God doesn't exist, but read the following(read
especially about the following study where two per cent exhibited full
awareness with explicit recall of “seeing” and “hearing” events – or
out-of-body )
Read more here:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largest-ever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-near-death-experiences-9780195.html
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Again about Allah or God...
As i said that Allah or God is not science or technology,
he is not artificial intelligence, his nature has nothing to
do with science and technology, this is why the Quran
was not science and technology ! i think the world of Allah or God
is of a different nature, he is like the souls or the spirits !
and now you are understanding why the prophet Mohamed was "handicaped"
thinking because it was not thinking of science and technology !
because Allah or God is not science and technology !
Read again to understand my following thoughts:
Who is Allah or God ?
You have seen me doing political philosophy here,
and I think i have understood what is Allah or God !
I think Allah or God is a Spirit(like a soul), and the world of Allah or
God is a world of spirits(like souls) ! this is the limitation !
because Allah or God can not act on the physical world ! he only
can act on the spiritual world(or the souls !), this is why Allah or God
can not do anything for you over this earth ! but Allah or God will
welcome your soul after your death ! so this is why you have to
transcend you living conditions by for example doing science and
technology and this is why i am doing more serious computer programming
and this is why i am doing political philosophy here.
This is why i said the following:
I am an Islam that is different..
And I don't believe in the Islam of ISIS or Al Qaida..
I am an Islam that is more "sophisticated", this is why
i am doing political philosophy here..
I give you an example:
When in Islam the Quran says that we have to cut off the hand of the
thief by refusing compassion on him even if he is poor and has stolen he
stole a "small" amount of money, this is not "logical", because God can
not say this stupidity, so from here you can understand that the Quran
is a mixture of God writing and of the human prophet writing, so
from here we can say that God has also let the prophet Mohamed
that is human to write rules in the Quran to also govern with the
prophet Mohamed rules that contain human defectuosities such as the rule
of of cutting the hand of a thief, this why the Quran is
not only from God but it is also from human that we call prophet
Mohamed, so Islam of today is not Islam that is
logical for our today world ! so i think that in Islam we have to retain
the very important of Islam that is we have to believe in Allah
and be guided by this our believing in Allah, not by the Quran or
by Islam.
In christianity also there is logical contradictions such
as you can do more and more sins but if you come in the end to
Jesus christ and you repent and you believe in him , you will be saved !
this is not logical either.
So i think that in Islam we have to retain the very important of Islam
that is we have to believe in Allah and be guided by our believing in
Allah, not by the Quran and not by Islam, so we have not to believe in
the Bible or the Quran or Christianity or Islam.
And read the following:
You will say that God doesn't exist, but read the following(read
especially the outer body experience of the 57-year old man below):
"A University of Southampton study has revealed that people could still
experience consciousness for up to three minutes after the heart stops
beating.
The study interviewed 2,060 patients from Austria, USA and the UK who
have all suffered a cardiac arrest.
The Express reports that 40% could recall some form of awareness after
being pronounced clinically dead.
One 57-year old man seemed to confirm an outer body experience by
recalling everything that was going on around him with eerie accuracy
while he was technically dead."
Read more here:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/516195/university-southampton-study-science-life-death-hell-heaven
And read the following:
Does God exists ?
You will say that God doesn't exist, but read the following(read
especially about the following study where two per cent exhibited full
awareness with explicit recall of “seeing” and “hearing” events – or
out-of-body )
Read more here:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largest-ever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-near-death-experiences-9780195.html
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Rick C. Hodgin
Sep 27, 2018, 5:38:35 PM9/27/18
to
On 9/27/2018 5:27 PM, Horizon68 wrote:
> Hello....
> Again about Allah or God...
God is God the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He's been presented to us
> Hello....
> Again about Allah or God...
as a male in the Bible, as He also calls His church the bride. We
are to be married to Him in eternity, receiving all He possesses as
our own, as He receives all we possess as His own, just as in the
pattern of marriage He gave us here upon this Earth.
God is God the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, just as we are soul, body,
spirit, made in the image and likeness of God.
What is happening on this Earth is only for a time. This present
age must yield to eternity, but eternity will never yield.
Jesus came to save us here, and it is here that we must come to
Him to be saved. After we leave this world it will be too late.
Today is the day to repent and ask forgiveness for your sin ...
tomorrow may never come, for we are all one heartbeat away from
leaving this world.
You can read all about Him in the Bible:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1&version=KJV
1 In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any
thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
==> 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness
comprehended it not.
If you hear the call of Jesus in your heart / soul, rejoice and
be exceedingly glad, for He is reaching out to save you from
judgment.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Rick C. Hodgin
Sep 27, 2018, 5:49:44 PM9/27/18
to
On 9/27/2018 5:27 PM, Horizon68 wrote:
> and now you are understanding why the prophet Mohamed was "handicaped"...
What teaching of Allah's was it that allowed Mohamed to marry a
six year old girl, and consummate the marriage when she was nine?
What teaching of Allah's is it that says women should be kept
as lower people, not able to express the creativity and gifts
God gave them?
What teaching of Allah's is it that says you /MUST/ convert the
infidels to Islam, and if they do not convert you /MUST/ kill
them, or make them a type of slave paying the Jizyah, a type
of mob-protection money to keep the person alive, thereby even
in their full unwillingness, still furthering the goals of Islam
under force and duress?
Islam is evil, Amine. The only reason there aren't more Muslim
terrorists running around the world is the same reason there
aren't more holy Christians: because people are /REPROBATE/
in their faith.
If you actually read the Qur'an (which you're not supposed to
do in English, by the way), then you'll see a doctrine of the
flesh, and of hate against all of mankind, save those who are
converted to Islam, and even then it is such a ritualistic,
oppressive religion that a person is essentially whipped into
submissions by the constant outside reminder (pray five times
per day, see your wives wrapped up head-to-toe in clothing to
cover their beauty whenever you go outside).
Who would tell others to treat people like that on a day-in,
day-out basis for ~1400 years now? And that's another good
question ... why did Islam only come about in the 600s? If
Allah created the world, and people have been dying and hav-
ing great struggles for so long ... why didn't he step in to
human history a few thousand years prior? And why such a
wretched creation? Why so much evil everywhere? Why didn't
he create something more perfect?
The Bible explains why: because of sin. God did make it all
perfect, but sin entered in and destroyed everything, giving
us all an example we can relate to as to why it must be tot-
ally confined in Hell for all eternity, so it doesn't do to
God's eternal Kingdom what it's done to this Earth in 6,000
short years, and that even includes a full restart with a
preacher ~4400 years ago (Noah and his family).
-----
Islam is a false religion taught by the kind of deceivers, who
is Satan, the actual anti-Christ (opposite of Jesus Christ) evil
spirit being that has already been condemned to Hell by what
Jesus did in victory at the cross.
If you want to learn the truth, Amine ... it's there before
you in the pages of the Bible. You can see the love of God
on full display, that even though we are and have been guilty
before Him, yet does He still desire to save us from sin, to
save us from that wretched enemy Satan who continually, day
and night, leads all of us astray by his conscious effort to
see our soul condemned to Hell for all eternity like his own
sorry self.
If you seek the truth you /WILL/ find it, Amine.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Horizon68
Sep 27, 2018, 6:05:33 PM9/27/18
to
Perhaps you are not understanding the nature of Allah or God !
Allah is not the creator of humans and is not the creator of the
universe and is not the creator of everything !
Allah or God is only a spirit and the world of Allah or God
is spirits or souls !
So Allah has not wanted to dictate all to prophet Mohamed,
because Allah or God is not the creator of the human that is
prophet Mohamed ! so Allah or God has those limitations so
he has wanted humans to believe in him ! and be guided
by our believing in him ! because he will welcome our souls
after our death ! he has not wanted from us to follow the Quran or to
follow Islam ! read the following to understand why:
Again about Allah or God...
As i said that Allah or God is not science or technology,
he is not artificial intelligence, his nature has nothing to
do with science and technology, this is why the Quran
was not science and technology ! i think the world of Allah or God
and now you are understanding why the prophet Mohamed was "handicaped"
thinking because it was not thinking of science and technology !
because Allah or God is not science and technology !
Read again to understand my following thoughts:
Who is Allah or God ?
You have seen me doing political philosophy here,
and I think i have understood what is Allah or God !
I think Allah or God is a Spirit(like a soul), and the world of Allah or
God is a world of spirits(like souls) ! this is the limitation !
because Allah or God can not act on the physical world ! he only
can act on the spiritual world(or the souls !), this is why Allah or God
can not do anything for you over this earth ! but Allah or God will
welcome your soul after your death ! so this is why you have to
transcend your living conditions by for example doing science and
because Allah or God is not science and technology !
Read again to understand my following thoughts:
Who is Allah or God ?
You have seen me doing political philosophy here,
and I think i have understood what is Allah or God !
I think Allah or God is a Spirit(like a soul), and the world of Allah or
God is a world of spirits(like souls) ! this is the limitation !
because Allah or God can not act on the physical world ! he only
can act on the spiritual world(or the souls !), this is why Allah or God
can not do anything for you over this earth ! but Allah or God will
welcome your soul after your death ! so this is why you have to
Rick C. Hodgin
Sep 27, 2018, 6:22:59 PM9/27/18
to
On 9/27/2018 6:05 PM, Horizon68 wrote:
> Perhaps you are not understanding the nature of Allah or God !
>
> Allah is not the creator of humans and is not the creator of the universe and
> is not the creator of everything !
The Qur'an disagrees with you:
> Perhaps you are not understanding the nature of Allah or God !
>
> Allah is not the creator of humans and is not the creator of the universe and
> is not the creator of everything !
https://www.islamicity.org/MOSQUE/ARABICSCRIPT/AYAT/31/31_10.htm
https://www.islamicity.org/MOSQUE/ARABICSCRIPT/AYAT/31/31_11.htm
31:10 He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can
see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest
it should shake with you; and He scattered through it
beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky,
and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature,
in pairs.
31:11 Such is the Creation of Allah. now show Me what is there
that others besides Him have created: nay, but the
Transgressors are in manifest error.
http://quran.wwpa.com/page/verse-40-64
Literal translation:
God is who made/created for you, the earth/Planet Earth
(as) a settlement, and the sky/space (a) structure, and
He pictured/shaped you, so He did good (perfected in)
your pictures/shapes/forms, and He provided you from the
goodnesses , that (is) God, your Lord, so blessed (is)
God the creations all together`s/(universes`) Lord.
Allah is literally Satan, Amine, a liar and an imitator only. He is not a
creator, nor is he /THE/ creator.
> Allah or God is only a spirit and the world of Allah or God
> is spirits or souls !
>
> So Allah has not wanted to dictate all to prophet Mohamed,
> because Allah or God is not the creator of the human that is
> prophet Mohamed ! so Allah or God has those limitations so
> he has wanted humans to believe in him ! and be guided
> by our believing in him ! because he will welcome our souls
> after our death ! he has not wanted from us to follow the Quran or to follow
> Islam ! read the following to understand why:
Out of curiosity, where do you think the universe and man came
from if "Allah or God" did not create it? Some greater power
brought it into being? Brought Allah into being? That would
make Allah a subordinate.
--
Rick C. Hodgin
0 new messages