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Bruce Momjian  
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 More options Aug 6 1991, 3:36 am
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From: r...@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian)
Date: 5 Aug 91 19:03:28 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 5 1991 3:03 pm
Subject: C++ book recommendations
I am new to this group, and want to buy a C++ book to learn from.

I am an experienced C programmer, and have read a few articles on C++
and C++ examples.  I started reading the Turbo C++ "Getting Started"
book, but it was too slow, without a clear focus.  I have Unix Gnu G++
and Turbo C++.  

I don't like a book which talks down to me, and prefer books which give
intelligent explainations with some code fragments and a few big
examples.

I am going to the the book store and buy a book.  Are there any books I
should be sure to look at or stay away from?  There are so many.  I
have read the C++ products/book list, but it has no recommendations.

Thanks Much.

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Andre Adler,,,  
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From: ad...@acf3.NYU.EDU (Andre Adler,,,)
Date: 6 Aug 91 15:00:00 GMT
Subject: Re: C++ book recommendations
/* acf3:comp.lang.c++ / r...@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian) /  3:03 pm  Aug  5, 1991 */

>>I am new to this group, and want to buy a C++ book to learn from.
>>I am an experienced C programmer, and have read a few articles on C++
>>and C++ examples.  I started reading the Turbo C++ "Getting Started"
>>book, but it was too slow, without a clear focus.  I have Unix Gnu G++
>>and Turbo C++.  
>>I don't like a book which talks down to me, and prefer books which give
>>intelligent explainations with some code fragments and a few big
>>examples.
>>I am going to the the book store and buy a book.  Are there any books I
>>should be sure to look at or stay away from?  There are so many.  I
>>have read the C++ products/book list, but it has no recommendations.
>>Thanks Much.

A very nice book is "C++: Techniques and Applications" by Scott Robert
Ladd. Since you already know C I think this a very good book for you to
learn C++.

      Andre

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Agustin Gonzalez-Tuchmann  
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 More options Aug 6 1991, 7:26 pm
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From: agonz...@nmsu.edu (Agustin Gonzalez-Tuchmann)
Date: 6 Aug 91 18:03:26 GMT
Local: Tues, Aug 6 1991 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: C++ book recommendations

Hi

Try The C++ programming language, by stroustrup, 2nd edition.

I have the first edition and it seems adequate for your needs,
since you are looking for compact descriptions. The 2nd ed.
just came out and it is supposed to be very good (I don't
have it, but I will).

*The* other good book I know is: "C++ primer" by lippman.
Also the 2nd ed. just came out. This is more wordy, but
good. I think any of these will do.

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Jim ADCOCK  
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 More options Aug 11 1991, 4:49 pm
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From: ji...@microsoft.UUCP (Jim ADCOCK)
Date: 7 Aug 91 20:07:48 GMT
Local: Wed, Aug 7 1991 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: C++ book recommendations

In article <410...@acf3.NYU.EDU> ad...@acf3.NYU.EDU (Andre Adler,,,) writes:
>>>I don't like a book which talks down to me, and prefer books which give
>>>intelligent explainations with some code fragments and a few big
>>>examples.

>>>I am going to the the book store and buy a book.  Are there any books I
>>>should be sure to look at or stay away from?  There are so many.  I
>>>have read the C++ products/book list, but it has no recommendations.

With the possible exception of the first book on the below list, which
was deliberately included only because it is written at *such* a basic level,
all the following books are written by very intelligent people with
intelligent readers in mind.  Nowadays there are tons of stinker C++
books on the market, many good one's, and a few great ones.  The
below attempts to list the few.

----

[Recent releases of 2nd editions of Stroustrup and Lippman has caused
 some changes to my list]

                A Short List of Preferred C++ Texts

With the size of the C++ community continuing to double about every
nine months, many C++ programmers haven't had a chance to complete
their C++ bookshelf.  The below "Short List" of C++ texts attempts
to list favorite C++ texts in many categories, in approximately the
order a new C++ programmer might wish to acquire the texts.  A few good
texts don't appear in this list because they closely overlap other,
more preferred texts in this list.  Specialized texts, not applicable
to most C++ programmers are not listed here, primarily because I have
not read all, but also because this is intended to be a "short list."

Teach Yourself C++, Stevens, MIS Press 1990, ISBN 1-558-28027-8
        A raw neophyte should be able to breeze through this text
        and example software in about a day. [I've heard some
        complaints about errors in this book, but its the best
        *really simple* one I've seen.  If you don't want a
        *really simple* overview of the language, skip to the
        following texts]

[The following three texts tend to overlap some aspects of each other
 considerably.  If you are only going to buy one, maybe get
 "The C++ Programming Language" since it contains a copy of
 the reference manual [minus the annotations].  If you can only
 buy two maybe get the Lippman and The Annotated C++ Reference Manual,
 because the annotations tend to help explain the design of the
 language a lot.  But, buy all three if you can stand it!
 Each has something unique to offer.]

C++ Primer 2nd Edition, Lippman, Addison-Wesley 1991, 0-201-54848-8
        Historically, the most common text to learn C++ from.  Great
        coverage of multiple inheritence.  Great coverage of templates.  
        Very readable.

The C++ Programming Language Second Edition, Stroustrup,
        Addison Wesley 1991, 0-201-53992-6
        The newest text from the creator of the language.  Also includes
        the reference manual.  [But, get Ellis and Stroustrup's
        "The Annotated C++ Reference Manual" if you want a *really*
        "complete" reference.]  Written at a fairly high level -- Lippman
        probably makes for a little easier reading.  Serious C++
        programmers will want to read this -- at least to get a better idea
        of where Stroustrup is coming from.  Good coverage of templates and
        exceptions, and lots of *practical* advice on how to get C++
        to work on real projects.

The Annotated C++ Reference Manual, Ellis & Stroustrup, Addison-Wesley 1990
        0-201-51459-1.  Much more than you ever wanted to know about the
        intimate details of the language, and why.  Today's "definitive"
        answer about what is, or isn't in the language -- excepting
        [relatively small?] changes coming from the ANSI committee.

The C++ Answer Book, Hansen, Addison-Wesley 1989, 0-201-11497-6
        Lots of good, small, ADT-like examples of C++ programming.
        The best reference on how to write little classes like Int,
        string, vector, etc.  Written to be used with Stroustrup's
        original 1st edition of "The C++ Programming Language" this
        needs to be updated to correspond to Stroustrup's second edition.
        When, Hansen?

A C++ Toolkit, Shapiro, Prentice Hall 1991, 0-13-127663-8
        Similar to Hansen, but at a little easier reading level.
        [I haven't decided which I like more.  Let me know which
        you prefer.  People who want to see lots of C++ programming
        examples should get both.]

Data Abstraction and Object Oriented Programming in C++,  
        Gorlen, Orlow & Plexico, John Wiley, 0-471-92346-X
        The best reference on how to write big, "Smalltalk-like"
        classes relying on polymorphism, a common base class,
        dynamic type casting, etc.  Read this one *before* you
        argue on comp.lang.c++ about the "best" way to do
        store/restore, dynamic type casting, etc.  Gorlen did
        it first -- and better than most.

Good and Easy OOP books, which also have tie-ins to C++:

[but don't consider these references on how to write C++ code!]

An Introduction to Object-Oriented Programming, Budd, Addison-Wesley 1991,
        0-201-54709-0.  An excellent, and pleasantly unbiased introduction
        to OOP, covering a number of languages including C++.

Object Oriented Design with Applications, Booch, Benjamin/Cummings 1991,
        0-8053-0091-0.  The most widely regarded text about what it means
        to design object oriented software.

Object Orientation: Concepts, Languages, Databases, User Interfaces,
        Khoshafian & Abnous, John Wiley 1990, 0-471-51801-8.  A survey
        of the object oriented world, and the best description of
        databases and issues of object identity.

Supplemental Readings:

USENIX C++ Workshops and Conferences
OOPSLA Conference Proceedings
The C++ Report
Journal of Object Oriented Programming
comp.lang.c++
comp.std.c++
bix
comp.object [if one has lots of time to waste]

Good Luck!


 
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Andre Adler,,,  
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 More options Aug 11 1991, 6:25 pm
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From: ad...@acf3.NYU.EDU (Andre Adler,,,)
Date: 11 Aug 91 21:49:00 GMT
Subject: Re: C++ book recommendations
/* acf3:comp.lang.c++ / ji...@microsoft.UUCP (Jim ADCOCK) /  4:07 pm  Aug  7, 1991 */

In article <410...@acf3.NYU.EDU> ad...@acf3.NYU.EDU (Andre Adler,,,) writes:
>>>I don't like a book which talks down to me, and prefer books which give
>>>intelligent explainations with some code fragments and a few big
>>>examples.

>>>I am going to the the book store and buy a book.  Are there any books I
>>>should be sure to look at or stay away from?  There are so many.  I
>>>have read the C++ products/book list, but it has no recommendations.

With the possible exception of the first book on the below list, which
was deliberately included only because it is written at *such* a basic level,
all the following books are written by very intelligent people with
intelligent readers in mind.  Nowadays there are tons of stinker C++
books on the market, many good one's, and a few great ones.  The
below attempts to list the few.

----

[Recent releases of 2nd editions of Stroustrup and Lippman has caused
 some changes to my list]

                A Short List of Preferred C++ Texts

With the size of the C++ community continuing to double about every
nine months, many C++ programmers haven't had a chance to complete
their C++ bookshelf.  The below "Short List" of C++ texts attempts
to list favorite C++ texts in many categories, in approximately the
order a new C++ programmer might wish to acquire the texts.  A few good
texts don't appear in this list because they closely overlap other,
more preferred texts in this list.  Specialized texts, not applicable
to most C++ programmers are not listed here, primarily because I have
not read all, but also because this is intended to be a "short list."

Teach Yourself C++, Stevens, MIS Press 1990, ISBN 1-558-28027-8
        A raw neophyte should be able to breeze through this text
        and example software in about a day. [I've heard some
        complaints about errors in this book, but its the best
        *really simple* one I've seen.  If you don't want a
        *really simple* overview of the language, skip to the
        following texts]

[The following three texts tend to overlap some aspects of each other
 considerably.  If you are only going to buy one, maybe get
 "The C++ Programming Language" since it contains a copy of
 the reference manual [minus the annotations].  If you can only
 buy two maybe get the Lippman and The Annotated C++ Reference Manual,
 because the annotations tend to help explain the design of the
 language a lot.  But, buy all three if you can stand it!
 Each has something unique to offer.]

C++ Primer 2nd Edition, Lippman, Addison-Wesley 1991, 0-201-54848-8
        Historically, the most common text to learn C++ from.  Great
        coverage of multiple inheritence.  Great coverage of templates.  
        Very readable.

The C++ Programming Language Second Edition, Stroustrup,
        Addison Wesley 1991, 0-201-53992-6
        The newest text from the creator of the language.  Also includes
        the reference manual.  [But, get Ellis and Stroustrup's
        "The Annotated C++ Reference Manual" if you want a *really*
        "complete" reference.]  Written at a fairly high level -- Lippman
        probably makes for a little easier reading.  Serious C++
        programmers will want to read this -- at least to get a better idea
        of where Stroustrup is coming from.  Good coverage of templates and
        exceptions, and lots of *practical* advice on how to get C++
        to work on real projects.

The Annotated C++ Reference Manual, Ellis & Stroustrup, Addison-Wesley 1990
        0-201-51459-1.  Much more than you ever wanted to know about the
        intimate details of the language, and why.  Today's "definitive"
        answer about what is, or isn't in the language -- excepting
        [relatively small?] changes coming from the ANSI committee.

The C++ Answer Book, Hansen, Addison-Wesley 1989, 0-201-11497-6
        Lots of good, small, ADT-like examples of C++ programming.
        The best reference on how to write little classes like Int,
        string, vector, etc.  Written to be used with Stroustrup's
        original 1st edition of "The C++ Programming Language" this
        needs to be updated to correspond to Stroustrup's second edition.
        When, Hansen?

A C++ Toolkit, Shapiro, Prentice Hall 1991, 0-13-127663-8
        Similar to Hansen, but at a little easier reading level.
        [I haven't decided which I like more.  Let me know which
        you prefer.  People who want to see lots of C++ programming
        examples should get both.]

Data Abstraction and Object Oriented Programming in C++,  
        Gorlen, Orlow & Plexico, John Wiley, 0-471-92346-X
        The best reference on how to write big, "Smalltalk-like"
        classes relying on polymorphism, a common base class,
        dynamic type casting, etc.  Read this one *before* you
        argue on comp.lang.c++ about the "best" way to do
        store/restore, dynamic type casting, etc.  Gorlen did
        it first -- and better than most.

Good and Easy OOP books, which also have tie-ins to C++:

[but don't consider these references on how to write C++ code!]

An Introduction to Object-Oriented Programming, Budd, Addison-Wesley 1991,
        0-201-54709-0.  An excellent, and pleasantly unbiased introduction
        to OOP, covering a number of languages including C++.

Object Oriented Design with Applications, Booch, Benjamin/Cummings 1991,
        0-8053-0091-0.  The most widely regarded text about what it means
        to design object oriented software.

Object Orientation: Concepts, Languages, Databases, User Interfaces,
        Khoshafian & Abnous, John Wiley 1990, 0-471-51801-8.  A survey
        of the object oriented world, and the best description of
        databases and issues of object identity.

Supplemental Readings:

USENIX C++ Workshops and Conferences
OOPSLA Conference Proceedings
The C++ Report
Journal of Object Oriented Programming
comp.lang.c++
comp.std.c++
bix
comp.object [if one has lots of time to waste]

Good Luck!

/* ---------- */

Contrary to what it says at the top, I did not write that stuff about I
don't like a book that talks down to me, etc... (though I do not
disagree with that statement). I did respond to the person who wrote
that if I recall correctly. He was looking for book recommendations and
I recommended a book to him.  Just setting the record ( or should I say
class ) -): straight.

          Andre


 
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Richard Bartels  
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 More options Aug 13 1991, 6:22 pm
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From: rhbar...@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Richard Bartels)
Date: 12 Aug 91 22:28:25 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 12 1991 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: C++ book recommendations
In article <74...@microsoft.UUCP> ji...@microsoft.UUCP (Jim ADCOCK)
gives a fine list of book recommendations.

Not to open any religious discussion, please, but I would also include
Bertrand Meyer's "Object-oriented Software Construction", Prentice-Hall (1988).

Half the book is on general principles of OO design and does not flog
Eiffel unduly.  Also, the other half of the book, using Eiffel
(which is easy to read and could be regarded as an OO pseudo-code
to the committed C++ programmer) gives a foretaste on templates
(called "genericity" in the book) and exception handling (via pre- and
post-conditions).

-Richard


 
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