scraping, not the bottom, but an entirely wrong barrel!
Bob O`Bob
=====
Hi, my name is Bj�rn Olsson and I�m organizing the .net track at the Scandinavian Developer Conference.
As you are one of the prominent persons in the .net field I would like to encourage you to send in an
abstract to present at the 2011 years conference.
More info can be found here: http://www.scandevconf.se/
=====
I mean, I wish them well and all, but I have not touched dotnet since about 2003.
They must have gotten hold of a list of MVPs somewhere. An OLD list.
I accept it now as understandable that they can't tell "Visual Basic" from Visual Basic.
Bob
ex-MVP for Classic VB
--
Nevik Rapvonek
Spam knows no boundaries.
Nevik
Auric__
> Spam knows no boundaries.
That's one for the quotefile.
--
Bavaria, where mountains stick out of the ground!
Kevin Provance
scraping the bottom of the barrel...
"Nevik Rapvonek" <nrap...@diddledeedee.com> wrote in message
news:ie9rb6db8cj6rjnum...@4ax.com...
: On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:31:47 -0700, Bob O`Bob <filt...@yahoogroups.com>
Mike Williams
> What's your problem?
What's your name?
Mike Williams
My name is Mike. But your name is NOT Revik! So why are you pretending to be
someone called Revik? I can understand that some people might not want to
reveal their own real names, and only you would know why you don't want to
reveal yours (although I suspect I know the answer), but why are you using
the specific name Revik, and why are you such a dick brain. What do you get
out of it? And why are you here? You are certainly not here to help people
who ask programming questions, that's for sure.
Mike
Nevik Rapvonek
Huh? What's your name?
Nevik
Nevik Rapvonek
>Another one? Don't you losers have anything better to do? If anyone is
>scraping the bottom of the barrel...
>
What's your problem?
Nevik
Nevik Rapvonek
>>>What's your name?
>>
>> Huh? What's your name?
>
>My name is Mike. But your name is NOT Revik! So why are you pretending to be
>someone called Revik? I can understand that some people might not want to
>reveal their own real names, and only you would know why you don't want to
>reveal yours (although I suspect I know the answer), but why are you using
>the specific name Revik, and why are you such a dick brain. What do you get
>out of it? And why are you here? You are certainly not here to help people
>who ask programming questions, that's for sure.
>
>Mike
>
I don't think it's any of your business. HTH.
Nevik
Mike Williams
> I don't think it's any of your business. HTH.
Well, you failed that test whoever you are and whatever your real name is!
Throughout my response I deliberately called you Revik (instead of Nevik) at
least three times, and you never even noticed! Now what fuckin' dick head of
a boy would not even notice when somebody got his name wrong three times!
So, your name is clearly NOT either Nevik or Revik, which makes me wonder
why you are lurking in the background posting utter crap in a pseudo anagram
of someone else's name? Why don't you just fuck off and leave this group to
the people who really want to use it for programming questions, instead of
infesting it with your drivel! You really are a dick brain.
Mike
Kevin Provance
Cursing the day the those two fools you call parents fucked each other,
conceiving you. Coward. Seriously, find a life offline before the stress
of being a clueless stalker consumes you...if it hasn't already.
Nevik Rapvonek
>> I don't think it's any of your business. HTH.
>
>Well, you failed that test whoever you are and whatever your real name is!
>Throughout my response I deliberately called you Revik (instead of Nevik) at
>least three times, and you never even noticed! Now what fuckin' dick head of
>a boy would not even notice when somebody got his name wrong three times!
>So, your name is clearly NOT either Nevik or Revik, which makes me wonder
>why you are lurking in the background posting utter crap in a pseudo anagram
>of someone else's name? Why don't you just fuck off and leave this group to
>the people who really want to use it for programming questions, instead of
>infesting it with your drivel! You really are a dick brain.
>
>Mike
>
Sounds like spelling isn't your only disability. I didn't ask for your opinion about my name anyway.
You've successfully passed the asshole test.
Nevik
Kevin Provance
"Mike Williams" <Mi...@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote in message
news:i9n685$fj5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
: "Nevik Rapvonek" <nrap...@diddledeedee.com> wrote in message
: news:js0ub6d9bs5n9kdfg...@4ax.com...
:
: > What's your problem?
:
: What's your name?
It's a short list. McCarthy, Clement, Shelton, Lithert, Austin, or little
Lawrence, whose surname escapes me. Take your pick. I've gone and
killfiled this douche too. If he or she cannot "man up" and confront me
with whatever stick they have up their ass - using a real identity - then I
won't waste time or energy on them. You shouldn't either mate.
Access Developer
> Another one?
> : Spam knows no boundaries.
Kevin proves also that obnoxity knows no boundaries.
Access Developer
> "Nevik Rapvonek" <nrap...@diddledeedee.com> wrote
>> What's your problem?
>
> What's your name?
Perhaps reversing Kevin's first name is intended to indicate that unlike
Kevin, his primary care physician is _not_ a veterinary proctologist.
Tom Shelton
Kevin - belive me, if I intend to insult you, I won't use a fake
idenity.
--
Tom Shelton
Kevin Provance
"Access Developer" <accd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8i9svh...@mid.individual.net...
: "Kevin Provance" <k@p.c> wrote
:
: > Another one?
:
: > : Spam knows no boundaries.
:
: Kevin proves also that obnoxity knows no boundaries.
It's statements like that, that leads me to believe it's you. Someone else
comes trolling along, using an anagram of my name, and you point the finger
at me. Yeah, you are on a very shorter list. Thanks for the help lawrence
Kevin Provance
:
: > Another one?
:
: > : Spam knows no boundaries.
:
: Kevin proves also that obnoxity knows no boundaries.
PS - obnoxity, not a word. Perhaps obnoxiousness would have been a better
choice of words. Illiterate fuck. No wonder Access is the best you can do.
It's basically the underachiever of database software.
Mike Williams
news:i9nj3t$fo8$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> It's a short list. McCarthy, Clement, Shelton, Lithert,
> Austin, or little Lawrence, whose surname escapes me.
From the limited amount of information available in the message source it
looks as though Nevik Rapvonek and Access Developer and Paul Clement are one
and the same person. They're all posting from the same place and it is a
place that virtually nobody else here posts from. There are two machines
involved though, and it looks as though when Paul Clement has got his Nevik
Rapvonek head on he is using his own machine and when he has got his Access
Developer head on he is using a different machine (perhaps home / work). It
looks pretty certain to me. Clement is definitely those three personas.
I'm not sure who the Spoonerism idiot is at the moment. At first I thought
it might be McCarthy but then as far as I recall McCarthy is from Melbourne
whereas the idiot Spooner appears to be from Sydney, so I suppose it must be
that other brain dead Australian who often visits this group, I can't
remember his name at the moment, he's not really important.
Mike
Tony Toews
<Mi...@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote:
>From the limited amount of information available in the message source it
>looks as though Nevik Rapvonek and Access Developer and Paul Clement are one
>and the same person.
Nevik Rapvonek and Paul Clement are both posting with version 1.8 of
Agent. Which is quite old as I'm running 1.93 from 2002. Access
Developer is posting with Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931.
At first glance they appear to be different but that could be
deliberate obfuscation of course.
Of course, now that I've posted this the anonymous individuals will
check the posting headers and realize that they haven't obfuscated
things enough and switch one of the accounts to a different poster.
I've also seen Access Developer in other postings and I'm pretty sure
he and I have actually met once. In meat space. (A euphemism for in
person.)
Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files
updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
Mike Williams
news:g8nvb61d5utq9i7ec...@4ax.com...
> Nevik Rapvonek and Paul Clement are both posting with
> version 1.8 of Agent. Which is quite old as I'm running
> 1.93 from 2002. Access Developer is posting with
> Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931. At first
> glance they appear to be different . . .
Yes I know. That's one reason, but not the only reason, why I said in my
previous message that when Paul Clement has his Nevik Rapvonek head on he is
using his own machine whereas when he has his Access Developer head on he is
using a different machine.
> Of course, now that I've posted this the anonymous individuals
> will check the posting headers and realize that they haven't
> obfuscated things enough and switch one of the accounts to a
> different poster.
Thank you for pointing that out to him. I had intended to just wait and
watch myself ;-)
> I've also seen Access Developer in other postings and I'm
> pretty sure he and I have actually met once. In meat space.
> (A euphemism for in person.)
That could be the case, but I still have reasons for believing that Access
Developer is just another guise of Paul Clement and just happens to be using
a different machine than the Clement / Rapvonek combo, as mentioned in my
previous message. Whatever the case, it is abundantly clear that Paul
Clement and Nevik Rapvonek are one and the same person, and they are both
posting from the Chicago area, as is Access Developer.
Mike
Viken Cerpovna
Looks like the Usenet bullies are at it again. You would think they have
nothing better to do than attacking people for no reason.
Mike Williams
news:i9po0r$925$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
You are becoming more deranged by the hour, Viken/Nevik/Paul. You have just
quoted a paragraph that was actually sent in a message from a lunatic
calling himself Nevik Rapvonek to myself Mike Williams (the paragraph
beginning "Sounds like spelling" above) and you have erroneously attributed
that paragraph to me as though I had myself sent it to someone (which I
clearly did not, as can be seen by anyone who would care to perform even a
cursory check of the messages in this group!). That message was sent by your
Nevik Rapvonek persona to myself, Mike Williams.
You are losing it, Viken (or would you prefer the name Nevik or perhaps your
real name Paul?). I don't know how deeply you had to dig into your deranged
mind in order to extract those other personas, but it is clearly the real
Paul Clement who is the deranged dick head. Perhaps its something to do with
the city you live in? I know they call Chicago "the windy City", but I
didn't realise it was windy enough to blow the brains clean out of idiots
like yourself.
You've been "outed", Clement. Just accept it and do yourself a favour and go
see a shrink. You need to be a bit careful. People may be able to get to you
now they know who you really are and who you are pretending to be.
Mike
Viken Cerpovna
>> have nothing better to do than attacking people for no reason.
>
> You are becoming more deranged by the hour, Viken/Nevik/Paul. You have
> just quoted a paragraph that was actually sent in a message from a lunatic
> calling himself Nevik Rapvonek to myself Mike Williams (the paragraph
> beginning "Sounds like spelling" above) and you have erroneously
> attributed that paragraph to me as though I had myself sent it to someone
> (which I clearly did not, as can be seen by anyone who would care to
> perform even a cursory check of the messages in this group!). That message
> was sent by your Nevik Rapvonek persona to myself, Mike Williams.
>
> You are losing it, Viken (or would you prefer the name Nevik or perhaps
> your real name Paul?). I don't know how deeply you had to dig into your
> deranged mind in order to extract those other personas, but it is clearly
> the real Paul Clement who is the deranged dick head. Perhaps its something
> to do with the city you live in? I know they call Chicago "the windy
> City", but I didn't realise it was windy enough to blow the brains clean
> out of idiots like yourself.
>
> You've been "outed", Clement. Just accept it and do yourself a favour and
> go see a shrink. You need to be a bit careful. People may be able to get
> to you now they know who you really are and who you are pretending to be.
>
> Mike
Oh gee, I guess the jiggs up. Yes, I am that Paul Clement guy from Chicago.
I'm also Access Developer, Nevik, Kevin Provance, Ralph and Nobody.
No not really, I'm really Mike Williams dick head. LOL!
Mike Williams
> Oh gee, I guess the jiggs up. Yes, I am that Paul Clement
> guy from Chicago.
Well Nevik Rapovnek certainly is, and I am beginning to suspect that Viken
Cerpovna is also.
> I'm also Access Developer, Nevik, Kevin Provance,
> Ralph and Nobody.
I never said all those things. I never said you were Ralph and I never said
you were Nobody and I never said you were Kevin Provance (who in fact you
are clearly not). Introducing things a person did not say in a dishonest
attempt to minimize the the effect of the things that person actually did
say is an old trick and it will just not wash here. The people here are not
as stupid as you appear think they are.
What I said, and what I stand by, is that Paul Clement and Nevik Rapvonek
are one and the same person, and that person's real name is Paul Clement and
he lives in Chicago. I did also suggest that you may also be Access
Developer, although I made it clear that I was not so sure on that point.
Paul Clement and Nevik Rapvonek are very clearly the same person though.
That's for sure. And it is likely that Viken Kerpovna is the third of that
trilogy.
You are treading on thin ice, Paul. People know who Paul Clement is, and
they know who he is pretending to be, and they can easily trace exactly
where he lives and works, and you need to be careful that you do not
overstep the mark.
Mike
Mike Williams
> Sounds like spelling isn't your only disability.
I'm generally okay with spelling, Paul. It's not something I have much
trouble with, although like everyone else I do sometimes make the occasional
typo.
By the way, I see that your Paul Clement head (and presumably your Nevik
Rapvonek head (since they are both on the same body) still work for the
National Futures Corporation out there in Chicago. I believe it is a non
profit making financial services outfit (is that something which deals with
the poor and homeless?). It strikes me that a non profit making organisation
is probably just about the best place for you Paul / Nevik, since a dickhead
like yourself is clearly unlikely to actually turn a profit for them :-)
Mike
Viken Cerpovna
>> I've also seen Access Developer in other postings and I'm
>> pretty sure he and I have actually met once. In meat space.
>> (A euphemism for in person.)
>
> That could be the case, but I still have reasons for believing that Access
> Developer is just another guise of Paul Clement and just happens to be
> using a different machine than the Clement / Rapvonek combo, as mentioned
> in my previous message. Whatever the case, it is abundantly clear that
> Paul Clement and Nevik Rapvonek are one and the same person, and they are
> both posting from the Chicago area, as is Access Developer.
>
> Mike
>
Sorry don't follow. How do you know Paul Clement and Nevik Rapovek are both
posting from Chicago? I don't see this information. Does it display in
Windows Mail?
I'm not sure where you came up with Paul Clement since I don't see any posts
here with that name.
Mike Williams
> Sorry don't follow. How do you know Paul Clement
> and Nevik Rapovek are both posting from Chicago?
Believe me, I know. I have the evidence. They also often both post from the
same machine.
> I'm not sure where you came up with Paul Clement
> since I don't see any posts here with that name.
Hang on. You're supposed to be Viken Cerpovna aren't you? At least that's
what it says in the "from" line. So how come you are responding to my
messages about the Paul Clement / Nevik Rapovek combo? Why are you so
interested in them, to the extent that you appear to wish to take up arms on
their behalf?
You have said that you are neither of those people, so why are you so
interested in them? If Nevik Rapovek or Paul Clement, who I have accused of
being one and the same person and who in fact are one and the same person,
wish to take this up with me then it is up to them to do so. In the
meantime, if you are to be believed, then it is nothing to do with you!
By the way, if you cannot see any posts in this group from Paul Clement then
you are not looking very hard. Have another look, and if you still cannot
find one then I shall point it out to you.
Let's face it, Paul, you have been outed. Personally I am not overly
concerned about you, apart from wanting to point out to the other members of
this group that you are a lying dick head, which I have done. Also, living
in England as I do, I am unlikely to come looking for you out there in
Chicago, even if I had the inclination to do so, which I do not. But there
are others more local to you who may just decide to do that, so I would
tread carefully from now on if I were you.
Mike
Viken Cerpovna
> news:i9pv57$6mi$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Sorry don't follow. How do you know Paul Clement
>> and Nevik Rapovek are both posting from Chicago?
>
> Believe me, I know. I have the evidence. They also often both post from
> the same machine.
I doesn't sound like you have any evidence. I wasn't sure at first but you
seem to be a cyber-bully just like Provance. That was the same reason I went
after him.
>> I'm not sure where you came up with Paul Clement
>> since I don't see any posts here with that name.
>
> Hang on. You're supposed to be Viken Cerpovna aren't you? At least that's
> what it says in the "from" line. So how come you are responding to my
> messages about the Paul Clement / Nevik Rapovek combo? Why are you so
> interested in them, to the extent that you appear to wish to take up arms
> on their behalf?
It's not about them. I'm just calling you out as a bully and now maybe a
liar.
> You have said that you are neither of those people, so why are you so
> interested in them? If Nevik Rapovek or Paul Clement, who I have accused
> of being one and the same person and who in fact are one and the same
> person, wish to take this up with me then it is up to them to do so. In
> the meantime, if you are to be believed, then it is nothing to do with
> you!
>
> By the way, if you cannot see any posts in this group from Paul Clement
> then you are not looking very hard. Have another look, and if you still
> cannot find one then I shall point it out to you.
I found a post from Paul Clement and figured out how to identify the posting
address (National Futures Association). The Nivek guy posted from Eternal
September. So how do you know Nivek posted from the same machine? There's no
other info there.
> Let's face it, Paul, you have been outed. Personally I am not overly
> concerned about you, apart from wanting to point out to the other members
> of this group that you are a lying dick head, which I have done. Also,
> living in England as I do, I am unlikely to come looking for you out there
> in Chicago, even if I had the inclination to do so, which I do not. But
> there are others more local to you who may just decide to do that, so I
> would tread carefully from now on if I were you.
Cool, I'll be Paul Clement if you want. He's a Microsoft MVP. Something you
will never be. LOL!
Mike Williams
> I doesn't sound like you have any evidence.
Yes I do, but I am not about to divulge it to you at this moment.
> I wasn't sure at first but you seem to be a cyber-bully
I'm not bullying you, Paul. You are the bully. If you want me to stop
responding to your comments then stop addressing them to me. I am merely
responding to your own bullying of others, and commenting on the fact that
you hide behind false names to protect yourself from those you are bullying.
You are a bully, Paul, and a coward.
> That was the same reason I went after him.
I'm sure that you feel you have your reasons for "going after people" Paul,
as you so quaintly put it. Bullies usually do tend to attempt to justify
their acts of "going after people" in such a way. But some bullies are also
cowards, as you are yourself, which is why you hide behind false identities
when conducting your bullying. You are a bully and a coward, Paul. Be
careful.
> Cool, I'll be Paul Clement if you want.
It's not that I want you to be Paul Clement. I don't actually want you to be
anyone at all. Paul Clement just happens to be who you actually are, and who
Nevik Rapnonek also is. It is a fact.
> He [Paul Clement] is a Microsoft MVP.
That's a sudden change in your knowledge. You effectively told me about an
hour ago that you had never heard of him!
> Something you will never be. LOL!
That remark is not very subtle, Paul. Not very subtle at all. In fact it is
almost telegraphed! You quite clearly know, since you are Paul Clement and
since you know me, that I was once an MVP myself and yet here you are
pretending that I could never have attained such status, in an obvious
attempt to throw me off the scent. Let's face it Paul, subtlety is not
something you are good at. It just did not work!
Anyway, just to prove I am not bullying you (which of course I am not and
never have done) I shall henceforth not post any further responses to you in
this thread unless you invite me to do so by writing to me. How's that? Can
a bully and a coward such as youself keep his mouth shut for a while?
Mike
Viken Cerpovna
>
> Yes I do, but I am not about to divulge it to you at this moment.
>
Your bluff was called. You lose.
>> I wasn't sure at first but you seem to be a cyber-bully
>
> I'm not bullying you, Paul. You are the bully. If you want me to stop
> responding to your comments then stop addressing them to me. I am merely
> responding to your own bullying of others, and commenting on the fact that
> you hide behind false names to protect yourself from those you are
> bullying. You are a bully, Paul, and a coward.
LOL! Nice try Kevin.
>> That was the same reason I went after him.
>
> I'm sure that you feel you have your reasons for "going after people"
> Paul, as you so quaintly put it. Bullies usually do tend to attempt to
> justify their acts of "going after people" in such a way. But some bullies
> are also cowards, as you are yourself, which is why you hide behind false
> identities when conducting your bullying. You are a bully and a coward,
> Paul. Be careful.
Be careful of what? Are you threatening me or someone else?
>> Cool, I'll be Paul Clement if you want.
>
> It's not that I want you to be Paul Clement. I don't actually want you to
> be anyone at all. Paul Clement just happens to be who you actually are,
> and who Nevik Rapnonek also is. It is a fact.
You don't know who I really am, which is why you're still on this fishing
expedition.
>> He [Paul Clement] is a Microsoft MVP.
>
> That's a sudden change in your knowledge. You effectively told me about an
> hour ago that you had never heard of him!
Dude, it's in the signature of his post. Don't be dense!
>> Something you will never be. LOL!
>
> That remark is not very subtle, Paul. Not very subtle at all. In fact it
> is almost telegraphed! You quite clearly know, since you are Paul Clement
> and since you know me, that I was once an MVP myself and yet here you are
> pretending that I could never have attained such status, in an obvious
> attempt to throw me off the scent. Let's face it Paul, subtlety is not
> something you are good at. It just did not work!
No, I just don't believe that with your attitude you could have ever been an
MVP. I certainly can find no evidence of it. Or, maybe you were and
Microsoft realized they made a mistake.
> Anyway, just to prove I am not bullying you (which of course I am not and
> never have done) I shall henceforth not post any further responses to you
> in this thread unless you invite me to do so by writing to me. How's that?
> Can a bully and a coward such as youself keep his mouth shut for a while?
>
> Mike
No you will post again. You can't help yourself, the mindless buffoon you
are.
Karl E. Peterson
> I mean, I wish them well and all, but I have not touched dotnet since about
> 2003. They must have gotten hold of a list of MVPs somewhere. An OLD list.
HA! <AOL> :-)
--
.NET: It's About Trust!
http://vfred.mvps.org
Kevin Provance
"Mike Williams" <Mi...@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote in message
:
: > I'm also Access Developer, Nevik, Kevin Provance,
: > Ralph and Nobody.
Hey Mike, since I have these douche holes killfiles, you might let "Viken"
know, that although he might be using Windows Mail now, in older posts he
used "X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548", then same one "Nevik" is using
now. So, busted.
Interesting Ralph's name came up, since he uses Forte Agent as well. I also
have it on very good authority his name isn't really ralph and also happens
to be pals with "nobody" whose name also came up.
My guess is all four are either one in the same, or two people using
multiple aliases. Which just goes to my argument that cowards who use
alises should be killfiled and consequently ignored. Why deal with a coward
if they can't or won't deal with you "face to face" or use their real
identity. They aren't worth the time.
All they want is the attention, and they think using anagrams of my name is
going to get it from me. I love disappointing. It's not me who looks like
a complete asshole. I would also start cross-posting to alt.kooks, since
that is where ralph/nobody/<anagram of my name> belongs.
A couple of children got butthurt and believe I am some kind of cyber bully.
All they are doing is venting their frustration and anger from said
butthurt, thinking and believing the guise of using name anagrams is
effective. What it is is funny, in a sad pathetic kind of way. I pity
them/him/her. You should as well, right after killfiling them.
Cheers.
DanS
news:i9ofsm$kp8$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
I believe that.
I myself have never seen the need to hide behind some fake
persona to be an a**hole....not that I use my full legal name,
but I've been using this nym since 1995 and post with a
munged, but valid, e-mail address. (Oh wait...it used to be @
a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a..n.e.t, but RR took over and the domain name
changed.)
Mike Williams
>
> "Mike Williams" <Mi...@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote in message
> news:i9psis$8i0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> :
> : > I'm also Access Developer, Nevik, Kevin Provance,
> : > Ralph and Nobody.
>
> Hey Mike, since I have these douche holes killfiles, you might let "Viken"
> know, that although he might be using Windows Mail now, in older posts he
> used "X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548", then same one "Nevik" is
> using
> now. So, busted.
>
> Interesting Ralph's name came up, since he uses Forte Agent as well. I
> also
> have it on very good authority his name isn't really ralph and also
> happens
> to be pals with "nobody" whose name also came up.
>
> My guess is all four are either one in the same, or two people using
> multiple aliases. Which just goes to my argument that cowards who use
> alises should be killfiled and consequently ignored. Why deal with a
> coward
> if they can't or won't deal with you "face to face" or use their real
> identity. They aren't worth the time.
Now I'm suspicious. At first I thought it was Clement and now you're saying
it's the other guys?
I'm beginning to think that you've been misleading everyone all along dick
head. Busted!
Mike
Mike Williams
news:i9qekn$47m$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Hey Mike, since I have these douche holes killfiles, you
> might let "Viken" know, that although he might be using
> Windows Mail now, in older posts he used "X-Newsreader:
> Forte Agent 1.8/32.548", then same one "Nevik" is using
> now. So, busted.
Yeah, and the very same "X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548" that Paul
Clement (MVP) used in his own most recent post in this group in the
MSHFlexGrid not scrolling beyond 65,535 rows thread on 10th June. Also,
according to the headers of all their postings, all three of them are
posting from an address in what comes up in the headers at this end as
the -0500 time zone, with Clement's also showing a posting host of
198.153.231.184 which is in Chicago. Those two, or rather that one (Viken
and Nevik) are very clearly people who have frequented this group in another
name (I mean, they certainly didn't just "turn up out of the blue" and start
carrying out their charade with no historic reason at all) and so you only
need to look for recent regular contributors who are posting from the same
time zone to get extremely good clues as to who they really are, especially
since there are so few people on the group who also post from that same time
zone and particularly who also have "history " and who also use the very old
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 thing.
All three of them fit into all of those categories. It's all a dead give
away. Paul Clement MVP (aka Viken Cerpovna aka Nevik Rapvonek) has been
well and truly outed. I wonder if Micro$oft know what tricks their little
old MVPs are up to on the groups?
> What it is is funny, in a sad pathetic kind of way.
> I pity them/him/her. You should as well, right after
> killfiling them.
Yeah, killfiling it is the best thing to do I suppose. If I continue to feed
it then it will just continue to grow. Consider it done with immediate
effect. As far as I am concerned the Paul Clement MVP troll is dead.
Mike
DanS
Why ?
Because he called you out as Paul Clement ?
You *are* Paul Clement. Fact.
(And acting like a pre-teen d*ckhead at that.)
You are not nearly as smart as you think you are.
I'm sure you can't figure it out, so I'll have to out you.....
Here's a header from your post I just replied to....
Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="+
9vUwI3zQEF18WsCbUYPLg"; logging-data=
Here's that same header for the last 4 posts you made in
m.p.v.g.d on Sept. 17,16,15,15, in that order.
Injection-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:33:34 +0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="+
9vUwI3zQEF18WsCbUYPLg"; logging-data=
Injection-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:40:08 +0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="+
9vUwI3zQEF18WsCbUYPLg"; logging-data=
Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:02:34 +0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="+
9vUwI3zQEF18WsCbUYPLg"; logging-data=
Injection-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:53:15 +0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: mx03.eternal-september.org; posting-host="+
9vUwI3zQEF18WsCbUYPLg"; logging-data=
Case closed Clement-hole.
Kevin Provance
Beautiful. Nice work. I always thought those encryptions changed with each
logon. I guess not.
"DanS" <t.h.i.s....@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9E18CF0DB15Cth...@216.196.97.131...
: Nevik Rapvonek <nrap...@diddledeedee.com> wrote in
:
:
:
:
:
Kevin Provance
out of the blue. Who does that? And why pull two names that are closely
related? Because someone slipped up and gave away names that are probably
involved in this stupid game. Do I believe as asshole like Clement is
capible of this? Yes. And I think Shelton chose his words carefully when
telling me he would insult me to my face (since the anagram troll hasn't
actually done any insulting to me directly but rather just borrowed my name)
which he would, I'm sure...and has also accused me of "cyber bullying" in
the past. If you found patterns in the posting habits based on time and
location, then I missed that. I'm doing it based on words, wording and
projection of the accusations. Since "ralph" has made it clear he knows who
"nobody" is, and since their names suddenly were tossed into the mix...I
don't believe it's any coincidence. I'm well aware of what "nobody" thinks
of me, because I called him out for being an anonymous coward...and
sometimes with ralphs smart ass comments I get the idea he doesn't care for
me either, but doesn't go out of his way to say so. So yeah, I think
someone in their bunch fucked up and said too much.
Again, I'm just conjecturing here. Fuck 'em all. Not a single one of them
knows whay a real cyber bully is...and if they think I'm an example? Ha!
They're all in for a huge shock. I'm tame compared to those idiots in alt.*
So, until these butthurt children start manning up and dealing with me as
themselves, I have no interest (and they won't because they know damn well
what will happen if they do. So add chickenshit to the list of words that
describe them.)
"Mike Williams" <Mi...@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote in message
news:i9qkd8$qfb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
: "Kevin Provance" <k@p.c> wrote in message
:
Kevin Provance
"Nevik's" posting from earlier today
>| Path:
>eternal-september.org!mx03.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>| From: Nevik Rapvonek <nrap...@diddledeedee.com>
>| Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
>| Subject: Re: scraping, not the bottom, but an entirely wrong barrel!
>| Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:45:49 -0500
>| Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
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>posting-host="+9vUwI3zQEF18WsCbUYPLg";
>| logging-data="29629"; mail-complaints-to="ab...@eternal-september.org";
>| posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18sLMCbe4v7jrzje4/TDrJj"
>| X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548
>| Cancel-Lock: sha1:XN5iIbW8nh8//J0rQb1TWKkSuuI=
>| Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org comp.lang.basic.visual.misc:1678
and Paul Clement
>| Path:
>eternal-september.org!mx03.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>| From: Paul Clement <UseAdddressA...@swspectrum.com>
>| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion
>| Subject: Re: Cant solve this.
>| Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:33:35 -0500
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>posting-host="+9vUwI3zQEF18WsCbUYPLg";
>| logging-data="16351"; mail-complaints-to=ab...@eternal-september.org;
>| posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/OBVEtGvEZXeGdc4Wu0rGg"
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>| Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org
>microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion:26173
The Injection posting host is one in the same.
You're not a very clever chap, are you clementine?
==
"DanS" <t.h.i.s....@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9E18CF0DB15Cth...@216.196.97.131...
: Nevik Rapvonek <nrap...@diddledeedee.com> wrote in
:
:
:
:
:
Tony Toews
<Mi...@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote:
>I wonder if Micro$oft know what tricks their little
>old MVPs are up to on the groups?
A few MVPs.
If you want to make a complaint the MVP GA email address is available
at the bottom of http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs.
Mike Williams
news:Xns9E18CF0DB15Cth...@216.196.97.131...
ROTFLOL! Yup! I have to admit that was me thiefing his name after Microsoft
dropped the newsgroups. Gotcha!
I don't think he's actually posted there since Microsoft's server stopped
carrying them. That is, unless he's using a different news server with an
alias (like you and me sweetie-pie).
All part of the ruse. I wouldn't waste any more of your time on this. You
don't know me anyway.
Kevin Provance
:
: ROTFLOL! Yup! I have to admit that was me thiefing his name after
: dropped the newsgroups. Gotcha!
:
: I don't think he's actually posted there since Microsoft's server stopped
: carrying them. That is, unless he's using a different news server with an
: alias (like you and me sweetie-pie).
:
: All part of the ruse. I wouldn't waste any more of your time on this. You
: don't know me anyway.
Yeah, this isn't the real Mike Williams. His ES post host is
"ca4E0xuRpYqtFzWhuBM4Vw", yours is "BgUVwdBr8T5zCp1DyGQA2Q", the same one
"viken" is using. Nice try asshole.
Kevin Provance
"Mike Williams" <Mi...@WhiskyAndCoke.com> wrote in message
: Now I'm suspicious. At first I thought it was Clement and now you're
: it's the other guys?
:
: I'm beginning to think that you've been misleading everyone all along dick
: head. Busted!
:
: Mike
Yeah, this isn't the real Mike Williams. His ES post host is
Tom Shelton
> What I found suspicious was "vikens" mentioning of ralph and nobody's names,
> out of the blue. Who does that? And why pull two names that are closely
> related? Because someone slipped up and gave away names that are probably
> involved in this stupid game. Do I believe as asshole like Clement is
> capible of this? Yes. And I think Shelton chose his words carefully when
> telling me he would insult me to my face (since the anagram troll hasn't
> actually done any insulting to me directly but rather just borrowed my name)
> which he would, I'm sure...and has also accused me of "cyber bullying" in
> the past. If you found patterns in the posting habits based on time and
> location, then I missed that. I'm doing it based on words, wording and
> projection of the accusations. Since "ralph" has made it clear he knows who
> "nobody" is, and since their names suddenly were tossed into the mix...I
> don't believe it's any coincidence. I'm well aware of what "nobody" thinks
> of me, because I called him out for being an anonymous coward...and
> sometimes with ralphs smart ass comments I get the idea he doesn't care for
> me either, but doesn't go out of his way to say so. So yeah, I think
> someone in their bunch fucked up and said too much.
>
> Again, I'm just conjecturing here. Fuck 'em all. Not a single one of them
> knows whay a real cyber bully is...and if they think I'm an example? Ha!
> They're all in for a huge shock. I'm tame compared to those idiots in alt.*
>
> So, until these butthurt children start manning up and dealing with me as
> themselves, I have no interest (and they won't because they know damn well
> what will happen if they do. So add chickenshit to the list of words that
> describe them.)
>
I never called you a cyber-bully, I called you a deranged scumbag.
HTH.
--
Tom Shelton
Mike Williams
news:i9r8bu$1lp$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Kevin Provance was thinking very hard :
>> "cyber bullying" in the past.
>
. . . actually it is now abundantly clear that if anyone here is a deranged
scumbag then it is your very own hero Paul Clement, Micro$oft MVP,
especially now that the wriggling little shit bag has been well and truly
"outed" and has been shown for what he really is?
May we be treated to some of your famously frank remarks about him? You seem
to be rather quiet on that one. Are you currently licking his wounds for
him, or perhaps licking something else?
Mike
DanS
Give it up schmoe. You've been busted.
Kevin Provance
"Tom Shelton" <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
news:i9r8bu$1lp$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
: I never called you a cyber-bully, I called you a deranged scumbag.
: HTH.
That's really funny coming from you. Let's examine, shall we? You spent
how many years coming into the VB classic group with your .Nxt bullshit,
declaring you would post what you want when you wanted, acting all high and
mighty on your pedestal, thinking you were untouchable. How many times did
you tell Mike and I to FOAD? And I'm the "deranged scumbag"? Oh,
yeah...that's right. I doxed your sorry ass and you got butthurt. That's
why I'm the scumbag. Because I knocked you down off your high horse, which
needed to be done and you don't know what else to do. I mean, taking
responsibility for your actions that got you to this point would be out of
the question, wouldn't it? You thought you could tell *me* to FOAD in a
group where YOU were trolling and walk away unscathed?
You thought you were untouchable and I proved you wrong...and now all you do
is cry and whine about it by hurling names at me. LMAO! You were wrong
boy. All you had to do was admit it and apologize to our community for your
constant abuse with your .nxt trolling...but no, you wanted to push your
luck. Well, congrats...you got what you wanted. If you feel the need to
push your luck some more, I've got more to share, oh so much more. Very
recent stuff actually.
So, go back to wherever you types hide, watch some Dora the Explorer and
help Clement lick his wounds, because I don't believe for a second you
aren't part of this idiotic show.
Tom Shelton
I don't know Paul. If it is Paul, then he's acting like an idiot.
I only am responding to Kevin's stupid accusations. Are you Kevin's
defender now?
--
Tom Shelton
Mike Williams
"Tom Shelton" <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
> I don't know Paul. If it is Paul, then he's acting like an idiot.
Oh, an idiot eh? That's not very strong, especially coming from you. Not
quite in the same league as "deranged scumbag", which appears to be a phrase
you seem to reserve for others. Why are you being so lame in your
admonishment of your hero Paul Clement MVP? Is it because you are in league
with him, or is it because you are pleased about what he does, or perhaps
both?
> I only am responding to Kevin's stupid accusations.
Well you would say that Kevin's accusations are stupid, because they are
directed against you, just as your hero Paul Clement said the accusations
made against him were stupid, which turned out not to be the case at all.
They were perfectly valid and subsequently proven allegations. I think you
are hiding something, Shelton.
> Are you Kevin's defender now?
Nope, I'm not Kevin's defender. I am talking to you about you. It is you who
is the deranged scumbag Shelton, as is indicated by many of the things you
have done on these newsgroups, including the fact that you have personally
told me to Fuck Off And Die.
What a fucking disgrace by the way, a fucking MVP! No wonder Micro$oft get
some stick when they have people like Paul Clement representing them! Do you
at least agree that Micro$oft are a fucking disgrace for continuing to allow
people like Paul Clement to remain as an MVP, particularly after the things
he has done and after the large number of complaints they have had against
him. Can we at least agree that Micso$oft are a fucking disgrace, or are you
up their arse as well as Clement's?
Mike
Tom Shelton
> "Tom Shelton" <tom_s...@comcast.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i9s5q1$mt0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> I don't know Paul. If it is Paul, then he's acting like an idiot.
>
> Oh, an idiot eh? That's not very strong, especially coming from you. Not
> quite in the same league as "deranged scumbag", which appears to be a phrase
> you seem to reserve for others. Why are you being so lame in your
> admonishment of your hero Paul Clement MVP? Is it because you are in league
> with him, or is it because you are pleased about what he does, or perhaps
> both?
>
Well, I'm not sure what you want me to say? I have no direct contact
with him. I don't know him at all, except from his usnet persona.
I think what he's doing, is childish - but nothing I would get all bent
out of shape about.
What really makes me angry - is this thing Kevin and apparently you now
- like to do, and that is go in and dig up info on people and post it
all over. And, no it doesn't matter if I'm the "victim" or not. I
mean crap, I even defended Kevin when it happened to him.
If Paul goes that far, then you will probably see stronger wording from
me.
>> I only am responding to Kevin's stupid accusations.
>
> Well you would say that Kevin's accusations are stupid, because they are
> directed against you, just as your hero Paul Clement said the accusations
> made against him were stupid, which turned out not to be the case at all.
> They were perfectly valid and subsequently proven allegations. I think you
> are hiding something, Shelton.
>
I wouldn't have resonponded at all if my name hadn't been mentioned -
why would I?
>> Are you Kevin's defender now?
>
> Nope, I'm not Kevin's defender. I am talking to you about you. It is you who
> is the deranged scumbag Shelton, as is indicated by many of the things you
> have done on these newsgroups, including the fact that you have personally
> told me to Fuck Off And Die.
>
Mike, I have since apologized for that. I didn't realize you were so
sensitive. I mean seriously, it just was words. I never meant you to
take it so litterally.
Listen, let me make something clear here. I don't really have any
quarell with you. The fact is that I much prefer civil conversation -
and you would never have had different from me if you and Kevin hadn't
started in with the "Tom Shelton is a Dick Brain" posts and other name
calling over something as stupid as a little technology war...
Seriously, is all of this hatred really worth it? Did the odd mention
of .NET really make you so angry? Do you really take life so
seriously?
--
Tom Shelton
Access Developer
> Kevin - belive me, if I intend to insult you,
> I won't use a fake idenity.
Amen, brother. I've had my differences with Tom, but I'm in agreement with
him on this.
--
Larry Linson, Microsoft Office Access MVP
Co-author: "Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions", published by Wiley
Access newsgroup support is alive and well in USENET
comp.databases.ms-access
Access Developer
> looks as though Nevik Rapvonek and Access Developer
> and Paul Clement are one and the same person.
Nope, Mike... anybody could, of course, use "Access Developer" but (at least
most of) the "Access Developer" posts here are from me (I save you the
trouble of ferreting me out by posting details below) and I'm neither of the
other aliases you cite.
I post via the "news.individual.net" news server; as far as I know, anyone
can sign up there and it's inexpensive (but not free).
--
Larry Linson, Microsoft Office Access MVP
Co-author: "Microsoft Access Small Business Solutions", published by Wiley
Access newsgroup support is alive and well in USENET
comp.databases.ms-access
in message news:i9oibi$44k$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> "Kevin Provance" <k@p.c> wrote in message
> news:i9nj3t$fo8$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> It's a short list. McCarthy, Clement, Shelton, Lithert,
>> Austin, or little Lawrence, whose surname escapes me.
>
> From the limited amount of information available in the message source it
> looks as though Nevik Rapvonek and Access Developer and Paul Clement are
> one and the same person. They're all posting from the same place and it is
> a place that virtually nobody else here posts from. There are two machines
> involved though, and it looks as though when Paul Clement has got his
> Nevik Rapvonek head on he is using his own machine and when he has got his
> Access Developer head on he is using a different machine (perhaps home /
> work). It looks pretty certain to me. Clement is definitely those three
> personas.
>
> I'm not sure who the Spoonerism idiot is at the moment. At first I thought
> it might be McCarthy but then as far as I recall McCarthy is from
> Melbourne whereas the idiot Spooner appears to be from Sydney, so I
> suppose it must be that other brain dead Australian who often visits this
> group, I can't remember his name at the moment, he's not really important.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
Access Developer
>
> "Access Developer" <accd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8i9svh...@mid.individual.net...
> : "Kevin Provance" <k@p.c> wrote
> :
> : > Another one?
> :
> : > : Spam knows no boundaries.
> :
> : Kevin proves also that obnoxity knows no boundaries.
> :
>
> PS - obnoxity, not a word. Perhaps obnoxiousness would have been a
better
> choice of words. Illiterate fuck. No wonder Access is the best you can
do.
> It's basically the underachiever of database software.
And, he proves so, yet again.
I suspect it was he who Captain Kirk had encountered when he send the famous
message, "Beam me up, Scotty. There's no intelligent life here."
Mike Williams
> I suspect it was he who Captain Kirk had encountered when
> he send the famous message, "Beam me up, Scotty. There's
> no intelligent life here."
Captain Kirk did not actually say that phrase, either in any of the TV
series or in any of the films. If you got that information from your Access
Database then I am afraid it is not working properly :-)
Mike
Access Developer
> Captain Kirk did not actually say that phrase, either in any of the TV
> series or in any of the films. If you got that information from your
> Access Database then I am afraid it is not working properly :-)
What I stated certainly applied to your buddy that you are so staunchly
defending.
If it was, in fact, not properly attributed, so what? Feel free to pat
yourself on the back if it pleases you to be so obsessed with a TV series
that you have memorized every word of every show. With memory like that,
surely you can find something more productive to do than carry on arguments
here.