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smandula

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Jan 20, 2012, 3:06:41 PM1/20/12
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Is there an APL font for Android 2.3 running on a
Samsung Galaxy player 5
I believe embedded is UTF-8

However, using WiFi , Dyalog web site, some characters are
missing. You can read/see the web site very well.

It could be that it's too early to move into Android
for APL web browsing?

PLJ

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Jan 20, 2012, 8:52:35 PM1/20/12
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I am aware of an app to install fonts, but it requires root access,
which I've been unwilling to do.

So far, I either read APL characters on a desktop machine, or save
the page asa PDF andmove it to my tablet.

Paul

smandula

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Jan 21, 2012, 7:17:39 PM1/21/12
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I think you are right, in that, the odd
character doesn't come through, it's not
worth this the risk in having problems
with my PDA.

With Thanks

Phil Last

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Feb 2, 2012, 8:40:53 AM2/2/12
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Forwarded from Kai Jaeger:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: c.l.a
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:55:09 +0000
From: Kai Jaeger <k...@aplteam.com>
-------------------

> It could be that it's too early to move into Android for APL web browsing?

This is not about Android, it's about the Browsers.

I was quite disappointed when neither Android's build-in browser
(which is NOT Chrome - there is no Chrome for Android - why is that?!)
nor the "Dolphin Browser" nor Opera Mini managed to deal properly with
embedded (APL) fonts on Vector's website or the APL Wiki.

However, I just discovered that Opera Mobile _does_ display APL
symbols on those web sites properly.

PLJ

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Feb 4, 2012, 12:00:15 AM2/4/12
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I have a Sony Android and thanks to this message I've gotten both
Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. However looking at both my sight and
Dyalog, APL characters are not appearing. Worse yet, the Dyalog button
to try the language fails.

Is there something more I need to get?

http://home.comcast.net/~paul.l.jackson/PLJsAPL/Help/KeyPages.htm

http://tutorial.dyalog.com/try.html

Paul

kai

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Feb 4, 2012, 3:55:03 AM2/4/12
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> I have a Sony Android and thanks to this message I've gotten both
> Opera Mini and Opera Mobile. However looking at both my sight and
> Dyalog, APL characters are not appearing. Worse yet, the Dyalog button
> to try the language fails.
>
> Is there something more I need to get?
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~paul.l.jackson/PLJsAPL/Help/KeyPages.htm
>
> http://tutorial.dyalog.com/try.html

In order to make APL ghyphs appear in a web site you have three
choices:

1. Use a browser with a default font that contains all the APL
glyphs.
Strangely I am not aware that any other browser than Safari on the
Mac
(but NOT under Windows) gets this right. It might look ugly, but you
might see the APL characters.

2. Rely on a certain font installed on your machine / device.
It seems that Dyalog's tutorial is doing this, but I might be wrong:
the source code of the HTML pages is practically unreadable, and the
CSS is extremely verbose.

3. Rely on modern browsers which can download and install temporarily
a font requested by a web site. That's the approach chosen by Vector
and the APL Wiki. It's perfect but fails with old Browsers (IE6 for
example).

Your personal page explicitly declares itself as "windows-1252" which
means no Unicode. I can see APL chars, but I have no idea why. In
any case you rely on what the Browser is doing. You may or you may
not
see APL characters. If you do you are very lucky.

When you go to the APL Wiki with your Android device, do you see APL
chars?

Kai

PLJ

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Feb 4, 2012, 6:42:02 PM2/4/12
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I don't have access to a Mac, but I've used IE on Windows for three
years with both fonts set to one containing APL and thus could read
comp.lang.apl with embedded APL in those messages on my PCs.  My
recent interest is in using my Sony S Android Tablet.  So far nothing
has displayed APL characters there.

As for my web pages, I write them with MS Word, and then save them as
HTML. If you look further in the file, you will see the use of font
SImPL defined. I assume your browser knows how to get that font.
But, here too, I cannot see all APL characters on my tablet.

Paul

PLJ

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Feb 17, 2012, 6:36:06 PM2/17/12
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I have a bit of good news for anyone trying to read APL on an Android
tablet. I got a copy of the Dolphin browser the other day because I
learned it had easy access to 'Desktop' features.

Today I learned it has a 'Save as PDF' plugin. I got a copy of that,
and I've just confirmed when I do that I can read the APL both here
and on my web pages.

This would seem to confirm that a browser could display them directly,
although I've yet to find such an app.

Paul

Björn Helgason

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Apr 11, 2012, 3:25:53 AM4/11/12
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I am sure APL on Android and other such devices will be a big hit.

Kerry Liles

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Apr 11, 2012, 8:59:18 AM4/11/12
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The point of this thread seems to be concentrating on the *display* of a
proper APL font on Android devices - for example, to read pdf files
containing snippets of APL code.

Yes, it is entirely obvious that J (cough) does not suffer from that
particular technological hurdle since it does not use special characters.

I don't think anyone was even remotely looking for an implementation of
APL on an Android phone or tablet... at least not yet.
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