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Mason C

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:25:11 PM12/24/09
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What objection, if any, is there to doing this?

body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
}

(I know it won't validate.)

I have a good monitor, well adjusted, and often find it slightly difficult to find
the gray-on-gray scroller. (Also, I like to match the colors to the page design.)

masonc

rf

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:54:01 PM12/24/09
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Mason C wrote:
> What objection, if any, is there to doing this?
>
> body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
> SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
> }
>
> (I know it won't validate.)

And only works in one specific browser.


Chris F.A. Johnson

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Dec 24, 2009, 11:03:12 PM12/24/09
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On 2009-12-25, Mason C wrote:
>
> What objection, if any, is there to doing this?
>
> body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
> SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
> }
>
> (I know it won't validate.)

It doesn't do anything at all.

> I have a good monitor, well adjusted, and often find it slightly difficult to find
> the gray-on-gray scroller. (Also, I like to match the colors to the page design.)


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Mason C

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Dec 25, 2009, 3:05:53 AM12/25/09
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and Opera

Not a reason to not use it for benefit of MSIE and Opera users

masonc
>

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Dec 25, 2009, 5:37:50 AM12/25/09
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Mason C wrote:

> "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
>>Mason C wrote:
>>> What objection, if any, is there to doing this?
>>>
>>> body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
>>> SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
>>> }
>>>
>>> (I know it won't validate.)
>>
>> And only works in one specific browser.
>
> and Opera
>
> Not a reason to not use it for benefit of MSIE and Opera users

Does nothing at all in my:
Opera/9.64 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.1.1

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GTalbot

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:06:17 AM12/25/09
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On 25 déc, 05:37, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"

<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> Mason C wrote:
> > "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
> >>Mason C wrote:
> >>> What objection, if any, is there to doing this?
>
> >>> body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
> >>>   SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
> >>> }
>
> >>> (I know it won't validate.)
>
> >> And only works in one specific browser.
>
> > and Opera
>
> > Not a reason to not use it for benefit of MSIE and Opera users
>
> Does nothing at all in my:
> Opera/9.64 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.1.1

Beauregard,

I have Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; fr-CA) Presto/2.2.15 Version/
10.10

and you may have to set

Tools/Preferences ... Ctrl+F12/Advanced tab/Content category/Style
options... button/View tab/Style scrollbars

To Mason:

Styling scrollbars does nothing, achieves nothing worth to promote
your books and can be prevented, neutralized in Opera and in Internet
Explorer. Objectively speaking, it is in your best interests to work
on your webpage, webpage content, webpage layout and to leave alone
the chrome aspect of your users' browsers.

season's greetings to both of you,

Gérard

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Dec 25, 2009, 10:41:32 AM12/25/09
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GTalbot wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Does nothing at all in my:
>> Opera/9.64 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.1.1
>
> Beauregard,
>
> I have Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; fr-CA) Presto/2.2.15 Version/
> 10.10
>
> and you may have to set
>
> Tools/Preferences ... Ctrl+F12/Advanced tab/Content category/Style
> options... button/View tab/Style scrollbars

But Gerard, that would mean I would *want* to have some extremely small
number of web sites present me with non-standard, confusing, unwanted
controls! :-)

> To Mason:
>
> Styling scrollbars does nothing, achieves nothing worth to promote
> your books and can be prevented, neutralized in Opera and in Internet
> Explorer. Objectively speaking, it is in your best interests to work
> on your webpage, webpage content, webpage layout and to leave alone
> the chrome aspect of your users' browsers.

I will certainly second that motion.

> season's greetings to both of you,

And from me as well.

Sherm Pendley

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Dec 25, 2009, 12:20:26 PM12/25/09
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Mason C <maso...@XXXfrontal-lobe.info> writes:

> What objection, if any, is there to doing this?
>
> body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
> SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
> }
>
> (I know it won't validate.)

That's one objection, right there.

> I have a good monitor, well adjusted, and often find it slightly
> difficult to find the gray-on-gray scroller.

A valid complaint, but adding a stylesheet rule would only fix things
for pages that use the stylesheet. Even if you specified it as !important
in a user stylesheet, that would still only fix the problem when you're
browsing the web.

IMHO, it makes far more sense to use the computer's preference panel
to choose a better color scheme, which would fix the problem in every
app you use.

sherm--

dorayme

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Dec 25, 2009, 3:37:01 PM12/25/09
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In article <uqb8j5loknnrs9e22...@4ax.com>,
Mason C <maso...@XXXfrontal-lobe.info> wrote:

> What objection, if any, is there to doing this?
>
> body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
> SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
> }
>
> (I know it won't validate.)
>

Do you? There may be something you can do about this, there are
techniques to deliver CSS to some browsers like IE which may be all you
want.


> I have a good monitor, well adjusted, and often find it slightly difficult to
> find
> the gray-on-gray scroller. (Also, I like to match the colors to the page
> design.)

But why complicate your public output for private preferences, make your
own user stylesheet or adjust your preferences/options...

--
dorayme

C A Upsdell

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Dec 25, 2009, 4:56:59 PM12/25/09
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Mason C wrote:
> What objection, if any, is there to doing this?
>
> body { SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #ccffcc; SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #AAAA66;
> SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #ffff00;
> }
>
> (I know it won't validate.)

It will if you put it in a CSS file which is loaded using IE conditional
comments.

This is a contentious issue, but there is one situation in which IMO
there can be a stronger argument for using this "CSS": not for the page
itself, but for internal scrollbars; e.g., if you have a scrollable DIV,
the scroll bars for that DIV.

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