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Michael Justin

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Apr 16, 2009, 10:53:27 AM4/16/09
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Hello newsgroup,

I have a small commercial (software developer) web page online, using
the YAML layout CSS.

Maybe somebody can take a look and tell me wether navigation is easy or
not, I received a message from a UK prospect who said it was even hard
to find the links to the product order pages - now finally I understand
my low sales ;)

Many thanks in advance!

Commercial offerings ok (if not tooo expensive) ...

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Michael Justin
SCJP, SCJA
betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Apr 16, 2009, 11:57:05 AM4/16/09
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Michael Justin wrote:

> Hello newsgroup,

Hello, Michael.

> I have a small commercial (software developer) web page online,

..and the URL would be?

> .. and tell me wether

A wether is a castrated sheep. <g>

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Stephen Wolstenholme

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:37:28 PM4/16/09
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:53:27 +0200, Michael Justin
<michael...@nospam.gmx.net> wrote:

>Hello newsgroup,
>
>I have a small commercial (software developer) web page online, using
>the YAML layout CSS.
>
>Maybe somebody can take a look and tell me wether navigation is easy or
>not, I received a message from a UK prospect who said it was even hard
>to find the links to the product order pages - now finally I understand
>my low sales ;)
>
>Many thanks in advance!
>
>Commercial offerings ok (if not tooo expensive) ...

The entry page is much too detailed. The prices and order pages should
be easy to find.

Steve

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Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Apr 16, 2009, 1:20:34 PM4/16/09
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

> The entry page is much too detailed.

..for what site?

Were you assuming one of the URLs in the OP's signature is the one he
wants critiqued? Which one did you look at?

Rob W.

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Apr 16, 2009, 1:35:45 PM4/16/09
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty schreef:

> Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
>
>> The entry page is much too detailed.
>
>
> Which one did you look at?
>

Does it matter?


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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Apr 16, 2009, 4:25:47 PM4/16/09
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Rob W. wrote:

Heh. Now that you mention it, no it doesn't. :-/

Michael Justin

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Apr 16, 2009, 4:47:40 PM4/16/09
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


> The entry page is much too detailed. The prices and order pages should
> be easy to find.

Many thanks for your feedback! I have cleaned up the entry page a little
bit now (but will work on it more). The missing prices / order page is a
real important point, I have not visited similar pages frequently to see
the 'general rules' for the site layout and navigation - this weekend is
a good opportunity to start :)

Cheers,

Michael

Stan Brown

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Apr 17, 2009, 8:18:09 AM4/17/09
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Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:53:27 +0200 from Michael Justin
<michael...@nospam.gmx.net>:

> Hello newsgroup,
>
> I have a small commercial (software developer) web page online, using
> the YAML layout CSS.
>
> Maybe somebody can take a look

I was willing, but you didn't give the URL.

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Michael Justin

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Apr 17, 2009, 12:10:47 PM4/17/09
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Stan Brown wrote:
> Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:53:27 +0200 from Michael Justin

>> Maybe somebody can take a look


>
> I was willing, but you didn't give the URL.
>

The URL is in my signature ... (both addresses point to the same site)

Adrienne Boswell

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Apr 17, 2009, 1:08:14 PM4/17/09
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Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Michael Justin
<michael...@nospam.gmx.net> writing in news:49e8aa06$0$3959
$9b62...@news.freenet.de:

> Stan Brown wrote:
>> Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:53:27 +0200 from Michael Justin
>
>>> Maybe somebody can take a look
>>
>> I was willing, but you didn't give the URL.
>>
>
> The URL is in my signature ... (both addresses point to the same site)
>

The problem with putting a URL in a signature is that:
1. Conforming news clients strip the signature in a reply, so the URL is
lost
2. Often the URL in a signature is just part of the signature, and
nothing else (like mine), and as such gives no indication that is the URL
in question.

Copied from the signature:

On my system (Opera 10, WinXp, 1024x768), the bulk of the page is below
the fold. Perhaps this is a float issue:
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/betasoft.gif


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Please respond to the group so others can share

Michael Justin

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Apr 17, 2009, 1:29:45 PM4/17/09
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Adrienne Boswell wrote:

> On my system (Opera 10, WinXp, 1024x768), the bulk of the page is below
> the fold. Perhaps this is a float issue:
> http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/betasoft.gif

This is a great hint. I have installed a new version of the YAML CSS
layout yesterday and also found later that the left column is too wide.
I will fix it and try some web simulators for other browser models...

Many thanks for your feedback (& the signature information)!

Best Regards


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Michael Justin
SCJP, SCJA
betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform

rf

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Apr 17, 2009, 6:05:47 PM4/17/09
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Michael Justin wrote:
> Adrienne Boswell wrote:
>
>> On my system (Opera 10, WinXp, 1024x768), the bulk of the page is
>> below the fold. Perhaps this is a float issue:
>> http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/betasoft.gif
>
> This is a great hint. I have installed a new version of the YAML CSS

Whay is a YAML CSS? And why would you need one?

<looks>

It looks very much like a pile of junk. Why not just write your own CSS?

This YAML stuff is, like any "library" thing, totally over specified. There
is 30K of CSS on your page. You could do it in two. And if you did it
yourself you would know what is going on, and know what is wrong with it.

> layout yesterday and also found later that the left column is too
> wide.

Because you are using somebody else's CSS?

> I will fix it and try some web simulators for other browser
> models...

Do you mean "other browsers"? Why not just install those other browsers.
They are, after all, free.

--
Richard.


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