Re: Where are the css nazis when you need them?
Snit
on 12/28/10 2:25 PM:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> idle stated in post 8nmqcv...@mid.individual.net on 12/25/10 11:10 AM:
>>> http://code.google.com/webfonts/family?family=Cantarell&subset=latin
>>>
>>> <link href='http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Cantarell'
>>> rel='stylesheet' type='text/css' />
>>>
>>> @font-face {
>>> font-family: 'Cantarell';
>>> font-style: normal;
>>> font-weight: normal;
>>> src: local('Cantarell Regular'), local('Cantarell-Regular'),
>>>
> url('http://themes.googleusercontent.com/font?kit=V86VyqXbc09Sss3BPsMj16CWcynf
>>> _cDxXwCLxiixG1c')
>>> format('truetype');
>>> }
>>
>> Steve and his sock are jumping up and down insisting that using the Google
>> WebFonts is somehow "unprofessional".
>
> It is, for nobody who could be considered a professional Web developer would
> make the display of his (client's) Web site completely dependent upon the
> availability of another Web site.
But Google Web fonts do not do that. Whew!
> That e.g. Google Maps code cannot be copied and thus easily slows down the
> display of one's (client's) Web site when Google's servers are under heavy
> load (or another network problem occurs) is bad enough already.
And yet they are used on many sites... including some very well done ones.
I personally have no problem with that.
> That aside, certainly it is not a good idea to help extending Google's
> almost-monopoly on anything about the Web to fonts.
>
> Excessive cross-posting reduced to international Usenet newsgroups,
> Followup-To comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc (where this is on-topic).
>
>
> PointedEars
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
>> Snit wrote:
>>> idle stated […]:
>>>> http://code.google.com/webfonts/family?family=Cantarell&subset=latin
>>>>
>>>> <link href='http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Cantarell'
>>>> rel='stylesheet' type='text/css' />
>>>>
>>>> @font-face {
>>>> font-family: 'Cantarell';
>>>> font-style: normal;
>>>> font-weight: normal;
>>>> src: local('Cantarell Regular'), local('Cantarell-Regular'),
>>>>
>>
url('http://themes.googleusercontent.com/font?kit=V86VyqXbc09Sss3BPsMj16CWcynf
>>>> _cDxXwCLxiixG1c')
>>>> format('truetype');
>>>> }
>>>
>>> Steve and his sock are jumping up and down insisting that using the
>>> Google WebFonts is somehow "unprofessional".
>>
>> It is, for nobody who could be considered a professional Web developer
>> would make the display of his (client's) Web site completely dependent
>> upon the availability of another Web site.
>
> But Google Web fonts do not do that. Whew!
Yes, they most obviously do. Dependency #1: The CSS is requested from
code.google.com using the `link' element. Then it is checked whether a font
of that name is locally installed. Dependency #2: If that is not so, which
is rather likely in this case, yet another Web site,
themes.googleusercontent.com, is accessed to retrieve the Web font. Those
are two unnecessary dependencies too many for my taste.
>> That e.g. Google Maps code cannot be copied and thus easily slows down
>> the display of one's (client's) Web site when Google's servers are under
>> heavy load (or another network problem occurs) is bad enough already.
>
> And yet they are used on many sites... including some very well done ones.
Let's eat sh*t, a million flies can't be wrong.
> I personally have no problem with that.
Since you consider usage of Google Web fonts to be a sign of competence
instead of the reverse, that is unsurprising. It is a very good idea, and a
sign of competence, though, to reduce the dependency on other services as
much as feasible. Unfortunately, in the case of Google Maps that is not
(yet) possible (and legal). However, it is with Web fonts: You can easily
host the CSS and Web fonts you need on your Web space, you do not need (or
want) Google to do it.
Please trim your quotes to the parts you are referring to.
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PointedEars
High Plains Thumper
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Steve and his sock are jumping up and down insisting that using the
>> Google WebFonts is somehow "unprofessional".
>
> It is, for nobody who could be considered a professional Web
> developer would make the display of his (client's) Web site
> e.g. Google Maps code cannot be copied and thus easily slows down the
> display of one's (client's) Web site when Google's servers are under
> heavy load (or another network problem occurs) is bad enough already.
> Google's almost-monopoly on anything about the Web to fonts.
>
> Excessive cross-posting reduced to international Usenet newsgroups,
> Followup-To comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc (where this is
> on-topic).
Tom, in spite of Snit misrepresenting the truth, "Big Crotch on a Small
Fish" <BigCrotch@SmallFish> is a Snit sock.
In following this thread that Steve Carroll originated in
comp.sys.mac,advocacy, Snit as this sock added the additional crossposts
to alt.websites, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html,
comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.setup, han.comp.www.servers and
japan.www.css,za.org.cssa. The only reason why I saw it was a crosspost
to COLA through reply. I have Snit bozo-binned.
Snit has been caught using other socks in past. Sandman did a
comprehensive research on 2 socks of Snit's, "Steve Carroll's Dog" and
"Omar Murad Asfour", which Snit has vehemently denied. Here it is if you
care to read:
http://csma.sandman.net/pages/Michael_Digest_New_Sock_Puppet
Here is a link of 145 individual poster quotes on Snit's trolling,
collected over the years by various CSMA individuals with links, also if
you care to read:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f595f97bc7fb06f8
Snit is a disruptive troll. For the reasons stated in the above link is
why many have Snit kill filed. FYI.
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Snit
on 12/29/10 12:30 AM:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Steve and his sock are jumping up and down insisting that using the
>>> Google WebFonts is somehow "unprofessional".
>>
>> It is, for nobody who could be considered a professional Web
>> developer would make the display of his (client's) Web site
>> completely dependent upon the availability of another Web site. That
>> e.g. Google Maps code cannot be copied and thus easily slows down the
>> display of one's (client's) Web site when Google's servers are under
>> heavy load (or another network problem occurs) is bad enough already.
>> That aside, certainly it is not a good idea to help extending
>> Google's almost-monopoly on anything about the Web to fonts.
>>
>> Excessive cross-posting reduced to international Usenet newsgroups,
>> Followup-To comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc (where this is
>> on-topic).
>
> Tom, in spite of Snit misrepresenting the truth, "Big Crotch on a Small
> Fish" <BigCrotch@SmallFish> is a Snit sock.
Incorrect. Let us be clear: you fabricated that claim. You made it up.
You lied.
You are simply a liar who panders to Carroll and the other lowest of the low
of Usenet.
> In following this thread that Steve Carroll originated in
> comp.sys.mac,advocacy, Snit as this sock added the additional crossposts
> to alt.websites, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html,
> comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.setup, han.comp.www.servers and
> japan.www.css,za.org.cssa. The only reason why I saw it was a crosspost
> to COLA through reply. I have Snit bozo-binned.
>
> Snit has been caught using other socks in past. Sandman did a
> comprehensive research on 2 socks of Snit's, "Steve Carroll's Dog" and
> "Omar Murad Asfour", which Snit has vehemently denied. Here it is if you
> care to read:
>
> http://csma.sandman.net/pages/Michael_Digest_New_Sock_Puppet
And even there, Sandman claims his "evidence" is that he does not doubt I am
Steve Carroll... given that Steve Carroll admitted to posting as his "dog".
The claim that Steve Carroll and I are the same person is stupid. Sandman
just repeatedly lies... he cannot help himself:
<http://csma.sandman.net/pages/Michael_Digest_Css_Validation>
<http://csma.sandman.net/pages/Michael_Digest_Gibberish>
<http://csma.sandman.net/pages/Michael_Digest_New_Sock_Puppet>
<http://csma.sandman.net/pages/Michael_Digest_Quote_Forging>
<http://csma.sandman.net/pages/Michael_Digest_Tilde>
<http://csma.sandman.net/pages/PDFforgery>
<http://csma.sandman.net/pages/ScreenshotForgery>
<http://csma.sandman.net/plain/ascii.php?name=Snit>
<http://csma.sandman.net/TrollScoring/Snit>
He cannot stop himself from posting such lies to public forums and to his
own trolling website.
> Here is a link of 145 individual poster quotes on Snit's trolling,
> collected over the years by various CSMA individuals with links, also if
> you care to read:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f595f97bc7fb06f8
>
> Snit is a disruptive troll. For the reasons stated in the above link is
> why many have Snit kill filed. FYI.
Yet you cannot quote a single example of my doing as you accuse. Not one.
Which shows you are a liar. And you are.
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High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper stated:
LOL, I rest my case.
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HPT