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GreatArtist

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May 18, 2008, 5:42:10 AM5/18/08
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I made a vector shape in Adobe Illustrator and I want to fill it with
a shiny gold surface. I want that to look like just a featureless,
shiny gold metal surface or to have a satin gold finish. I don't want
a rough texture. I also want the same thing in silver metal. I tried
looking in google images and a few texture collections for such a
tiled texture image of these things but I couldn't find one. The
software I have are 3D Studio Max 9, Adobe Illustrator CS3, and
Photoshop CS3. Can someone give me any info or point me in the right
direction to some resources or info on how to do this? Is there a good
web site, texture graphics collection, book, or something to enable me
to do this? It seems to me I should be able to render a shiny gold
surface in 3D Studio Max, but I don't know how to do that yet and I
don't know if it has that capability built in or I have to get some
add-on things.


Rowley

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May 18, 2008, 8:23:05 AM5/18/08
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Dig around this site...

http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/cg_education.htm
http://www.neilblevins.com/

Not really a Max tutorial site, more information on the theory of doing
this in 3D applications (like Max).

Martin

granny

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May 18, 2008, 12:58:54 PM5/18/08
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"GreatArtist" <wiz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I made a vector shape in Adobe Illustrator and I want to fill it with
> a shiny gold surface. I want that to look like just a featureless,
> shiny gold metal surface or to have a satin gold finish.
<SNIP>
> Photoshop CS3.
>

Here are some "Photoshop" tutorials I have learned from...:

http://bobcatred.deviantart.com/art/Shiny-Gold-Tutorial-28889984

http://www.mrdelicious.net/NFC/vincent/vangoghs/gold.htm

http://www.pixeladdiction.com/bb/articles.php?action=viewarticle&artid=46&page=1

http://home.zonnet.nl/epragt/tutorials/photoshop/text/goldtext2/index.jsp.htm
--
"Granny"
Old N Slow N Prefer Quick N Easy


ronv...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2008, 3:40:50 PM5/18/08
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Hi,
Maybe you can look at some of my procedural textures. This one:

http://www.filterforge.com/filters/5412.html

in particular may do what you are looking for. This uses surface maps
and an HDRI lighting environment to modify the texture's surface
characteristics. The surface texture can be controlled by the user to
mirror smooth to a brushed finish. If you need it to be modified in
some way leave a comment in the comment section and I will see what I
can do.
The plug-in required for generating these texture has a free trial.

Good luck,
Ron

Old_Fart

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May 18, 2008, 4:12:50 PM5/18/08
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GreatArtist <wizz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I made a vector shape in Adobe Illustrator and I want to fill it with
> a shiny gold surface. I want that to look like just a featureless,
> shiny gold metal surface or to have a satin gold finish. I don't want
> a rough texture. I also want the same thing in silver metal. I tried
> looking in google images and a few texture collections for such a
> tiled texture image of these things but I couldn't find one. The
> software I have are 3D Studio Max 9, Adobe Illustrator CS3, and
> Photoshop CS3. Can someone give me any info or point me in the right
> direction to some resources or info on how to do this? Is there a good
> web site, texture graphics collection, book, or something to enable me
> to do this? It seems to me I should be able to render a shiny gold
> surface in 3D Studio Max, but I don't know how to do that yet and I
> don't know if it has that capability built in or I have to get some
> add-on things.
>

3D Studio Max how to do different metal surfaces:
http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/metal_surfaces/lotsmetal.asp

DaOldFart


KatWoman

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May 18, 2008, 7:56:19 PM5/18/08
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"GreatArtist" <wiz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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you need to use gradient overlay layer
or a style
you can download many free metallic gradients and styles form Adobe Studio
Exchange

if you don't like them exactly as they are you can tweak them by modifying
the effects layers


ArtistMike

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May 19, 2008, 4:03:55 PM5/19/08
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 02:42:10 -0700, GreatArtist wrote
(in article
<c64d5012-c0d9-4bc4...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>):

> I made a vector shape in Adobe Illustrator and I want to fill it with
> a shiny gold surface. I want that to look like just a featureless,
> shiny gold metal surface or to have a satin gold finish. I don't want
> a rough texture. I also want the same thing in silver metal. I tried
> looking in google images and a few texture collections for such a
> tiled texture image of these things but I couldn't find one.


Instead of looking for textures, look at images and see how real life makes
something look gold. Learn to look at things and then YOU can make your
images seem life-like. All you are doing now is looking to find how someone
else has done it. That is cheating.

Mike

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com
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ronv...@gmail.com

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May 19, 2008, 9:01:06 PM5/19/08
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On May 19, 3:03 pm, ArtistMike <m...@artistmike.com> wrote:
That is cheating.
>
> Mike
>
> Site at:http://www.artistmike.com
> =========================================================
>
> Certificate Design at:http://www.artistmike.com/CertificateDesigns/1.html
>
> Logos at:http://www.artistmike.com/NewLogos2002/Logos2002.08a.html
>
> AdSense PodCast at:http://www.artistmike.com/AdSensePodCast/1.html
>
> =========================================================
Hi Mike,
Imo, it's only cheating if the work is misrepresented to the client.
Did you hand paint the honey suckle in this-

http://www.artistmike.com/NewLogos2002/Alex.01.jpg

-logo, or is it a photo? If you composited a photo, should I think you
are a cheater?

Brgds,
Ron

Rowley

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May 19, 2008, 11:39:19 PM5/19/08
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Plants aren't all that hard to do in 3D - there is even a neat "freebie"
application if you don't want to make your own.

http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/

Martin

ronv...@gmail.com

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May 20, 2008, 12:13:48 AM5/20/08
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On May 19, 10:39 pm, Rowley <industry3dREM...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Plants aren't all that hard to do in 3D - there is even a neat "freebie"
> application if you don't want to make your own.
>
> http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/
>
> Martin
>
Hi Martin,

Neat indeed! I have seen this kind of thing before with procedurals
but not this good.

Some of the renderings are excellent.
http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/images/Nicolas_Wirrmann_01.jpg

Thanks for the link.
My point was that unless the client had been led to expect otherwise
that it would be completely cool to use photos or procedural textures
in place of a hand painted images. Who has time, really, to paint
everything by hand?

Brgds,
Ron

ArtistMike

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May 20, 2008, 1:49:27 AM5/20/08
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:01:06 -0700, ronv...@gmail.com wrote
(in article
<4a2aa702-5162-45ad...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>):

>
> should I think ...
>
> Brgds,
> Ron
>

You are free to think anything you wish, I have no control over what YOU
think. You don't need my permission to think. Did you forget?

ArtistMike

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May 20, 2008, 1:56:32 AM5/20/08
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:01:06 -0700, ronv...@gmail.com wrote
(in article
<4a2aa702-5162-45ad...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>):

> Imo, it's only cheating if the work is misrepresented to the client.

You are free to think cheating is whatever you wish. I know what I consider
it to be.


> Did you hand paint the honey suckle in this-

> http://www.artistmike.com/NewLogos2002/Alex.01.jpg

Chuckle. Are you really that puzzled?

":^)


> -logo, or is it a photo? If you composited a photo

Can't believe what you see anymore, can you.

":^)

Rowley

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May 20, 2008, 7:37:31 AM5/20/08
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Hey Ron,

I don't do what I do 'professionally' (well, I do CAD work
professionally...), but I suspect that most clients are just going to be
interested in the final finished product and less how it was made.

"Who has time to paint everything by hand?", IMO (subjective I know),
learning techniques to create your own content can actually save you a
lot of time. I see it sort of along the lines of the old parable of
teaching a man to fish....

Once someone has learned how to make use of the procedural materials in
whatever 3D graphics program they are using or how to custom paint
things in Photoshop or make blends / gradients / styles in Illustrator -
it will save time spent trying to hunt down something that someone else
might have made.

Take a look at some of the material tutorials here,

http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/cg_education.htm

And FWIW, a somewhat new magazine that I've been subscribing to and
would recommend to people doing either 2D or 3D art work. UK mag, but it
can be found in most big-chain book stores here in the US. Excellent
Photoshop tutorials as well as ones for hand drawing techniques and 3D
applications.

http://www.imaginefx.com/

Martin

KatWoman

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May 20, 2008, 12:39:46 PM5/20/08
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>
> ronv...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On May 19, 3:03 pm, ArtistMike <m...@artistmike.com> wrote:
>> That is cheating.
>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Site at:http://www.artistmike.com
>>>=========================================================
>>>
>>>Certificate Design at:http://www.artistmike.com/CertificateDesigns/1.html
>>>
>>>Logos at:http://www.artistmike.com/NewLogos2002/Logos2002.08a.html
>>>
>>>AdSense PodCast at:http://www.artistmike.com/AdSensePodCast/1.html
>>>
>>>=========================================================
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>> Imo, it's only cheating if the work is misrepresented to the client.
>> Did you hand paint the honey suckle in this-
>>
>> http://www.artistmike.com/NewLogos2002/Alex.01.jpg
>>
>> -logo, or is it a photo? If you composited a photo, should I think you
>> are a cheater?
>>
>> Brgds,
>> Ron
>>
"Rowley" <industry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Plants aren't all that hard to do in 3D - there is even a neat "freebie"
> application if you don't want to make your own.
>
> http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/
>
> Martin

thanks>>>cool program
new toys<>>> fun!


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