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Marc Pawliger  
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 More options Apr 28 2005, 3:39 am
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
From: Marc Pawliger <use...@accend.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:39:28 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 28 2005 3:39 am
Subject: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now
http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=39
The Windows version is available now.
The Mac version had some minor problems while getting it ready to post
and will be available shortly.

--marc


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John  
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 More options Apr 28 2005, 4:59 am
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From: "John" <nos...@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:59:23 GMT
Local: Thurs, Apr 28 2005 4:59 am
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now

"Marc Pawliger" <use...@accend.com> wrote in message news:280420050039281943%usenet@accend.com...
> http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=39
> The Windows version is available now.
> The Mac version had some minor problems while getting it ready to post
> and will be available shortly.

> --marc

Marc, any comments on Adobelm_Cleanup.0001?  It's a
renamed executable, has a Macrovision Europe copyright
notice, and apparently monitors networks for multiple
instances of PS running on the same subnet.

Shouldn't this be documented somewhere?  You won't be
scoring any points with network admins, most of whom
will (or at least should) flag it as malware.


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Eric Gill  
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 More options Apr 28 2005, 9:23 am
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From: Eric Gill <ericvg...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:23:16 GMT
Local: Thurs, Apr 28 2005 9:23 am
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now
"John" <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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...and for blocking, if it cannot be deleted without munging Photoshop.

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 More options Apr 28 2005, 5:24 pm
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From: Hecate <hec...@newsguy.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:24:12 +0100
Local: Thurs, Apr 28 2005 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:23:16 GMT, Eric Gill <ericvg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> Marc, any comments on Adobelm_Cleanup.0001?  It's a
>> renamed executable, has a Macrovision Europe copyright
>> notice, and apparently monitors networks for multiple
>> instances of PS running on the same subnet.

>> Shouldn't this be documented somewhere?  You won't be
>> scoring any points with network admins, most of whom
>> will (or at least should) flag it as malware.

>...and for blocking, if it cannot be deleted without munging Photoshop.

You should be able to block it using a firewall. Whether PS will still
run is a moot point though.

 --

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Marc Pawliger  
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 More options Apr 29 2005, 3:01 am
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From: Marc Pawliger <use...@accend.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:01:28 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 29 2005 3:01 am
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now
In article <LB1ce.495$HL2...@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, John

<nos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Marc Pawliger" <use...@accend.com> wrote in message
> news:280420050039281943%usenet@accend.com...
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=39
> > The Windows version is available now.
> > The Mac version had some minor problems while getting it ready to post
> > and will be available shortly.
> Marc, any comments on Adobelm_Cleanup.0001?  It's a
> renamed executable, has a Macrovision Europe copyright
> notice, and apparently monitors networks for multiple
> instances of PS running on the same subnet.

"John",

This service cleans up any temporary files left by Photoshop.  It runs
as s separate process while Photoshop CS2 runs, and quits after
Photoshop CS2 quits.

You say "apparently monitors" - it does no such thing.  What is your
reason for saying it does?

> Shouldn't this be documented somewhere?  You won't be
> scoring any points with network admins, most of whom
> will (or at least should) flag it as malware.

Photoshop CS2 can be configured by users to access Version Cue servers
(the asset management servers that are part of CS and CS2) and that may
cause some network activity at Photoshop CS2 launch.  However this is
only done when the user configures Photoshop CS2 to access these
servers - it does not do so by default.

--marc


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John  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 29 2005, 3:42 am
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From: "John" <nos...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:42:01 GMT
Local: Fri, Apr 29 2005 3:42 am
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now

Why would such a utility, if that's all it does, be written by
Macrovision?  You're claiming it doesn't do any kind of
network monitoring related to licensing and/or activation?

> You say "apparently monitors" - it does no such thing.  What is your
> reason for saying it does?

From publicly available information on Cleanup.exe, and from
the utility's copyright notice.  Again, why would a simple file
cleanup util need to come from Macrovision?

If you search Google you'll find cases of Macrovision's
Cleanup.exe causing system slowdowns and crashes, and
inquiries from concerned network admins about what this
utility does.

> > Shouldn't this be documented somewhere?  You won't be
> > scoring any points with network admins, most of whom
> > will (or at least should) flag it as malware.

> Photoshop CS2 can be configured by users to access Version Cue servers
> (the asset management servers that are part of CS and CS2) and that may
> cause some network activity at Photoshop CS2 launch.  However this is
> only done when the user configures Photoshop CS2 to access these
> servers - it does not do so by default.

Thanks for the info.

John


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Marc Pawliger  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 30 2005, 2:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
From: Marc Pawliger <use...@accend.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:00:23 -0700
Local: Sat, Apr 30 2005 2:00 am
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now
In article <dzlce.1513$GQ5.1...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, John

It does not perform any network activity at all.  Again, what evidence
do you have that it does, as you claim it "apparently" does?

> > You say "apparently monitors" - it does no such thing.  What is your
> > reason for saying it does?
> From publicly available information on Cleanup.exe

What is this utility and what does it have to do with your apparent
report?  A Google search for "cleanup.exe" says it is a utility to
remove temporary internet files, browser cookies, etc.

> and from
> the utility's copyright notice.  Again, why would a simple file
> cleanup util need to come from Macrovision?
> If you search Google you'll find cases of Macrovision's
> Cleanup.exe causing system slowdowns and crashes, and
> inquiries from concerned network admins about what this
> utility does.

I fail to see the relation between this cleanup.exe and what we are
discussing.

--marc


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John  
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(2 users)  More options Apr 30 2005, 3:13 am
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From: "John" <nos...@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:13:55 GMT
Local: Sat, Apr 30 2005 3:13 am
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now

It was a guess.  Given the complete absence of documentation
from Adobe, the rest of us are forced to grovel in the dark
(and assume the worst btw, considering the utility comes from
Macrovision and not Adobe).

Direct answers to the following would be appreciated:

Is Adobelm_Cleanup related to PS licensing and/or activation?
Are these the "temporary files" you keep referring to?

Why does it use CPU cycles every 10-15 seconds while PS
is active?  If it's not monitoring, then what is it doing?

Why does it operate in stealth mode (i.e. with a .0001 file
extension)?  What's the point of that, except to make network
and system admins nervous?

Why have no PS versions prior to CS2 used it?


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(1 user)  More options Apr 30 2005, 9:45 am
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From: "jjs" <jscheimpf...@nix.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:45:46 -0500
Local: Sat, Apr 30 2005 9:45 am
Subject: Re: Photoshop CS2 tryout version available now
"John" <nos...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> Direct answers to the following would be appreciated:

> Is Adobelm_Cleanup related to PS licensing and/or activation?

Almost certainly not. Adobe PS' creates the licensing executable when it
starts up.

> Are these the "temporary files" you keep referring to?

You know that PS9 uses scratch files.

> Why does it use CPU cycles every 10-15 seconds while PS
> is active?  If it's not monitoring, then what is it doing?

Is this Computer Programming 101?  Images are often active - polling for
events, for example.

> Why have no PS versions prior to CS2 used it?

It's called progress.

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