Painting on Adj. Layer Mask too SLOOOOW!
Eric
mask be so freaking slow???!!! I've only noticed this recently when I
started working with very large photos (88meg). Sure, I understand that my
changes to an Adjustment Layer require lots of math on the part of my
computer. But why does the program need all this computing while I paint?
After all, I'm only painting greyscale pixels on a mask...why not let the
results of that painting be drawn on the background AFTER I uncheck the mask
view on layer properties. As it stands now, I can't use a layer mask
because I have to wait 5 or 6 seconds for the program to unfreeze every time
I lift my pen.
There's gotta be a better way. Help!
Kris Zaklika
>
> This is my big gripe with PSP this week. Why should painting on a layer
> mask be so freaking slow???!!! I've only noticed this recently when I
> started working with very large photos (88meg). Sure, I understand that my
> changes to an Adjustment Layer require lots of math on the part of my
> computer. But why does the program need all this computing while I paint?
So you can see the results of your painting and decide where
and how to paint next?
> After all, I'm only painting greyscale pixels on a mask...why not let the
> results of that painting be drawn on the background AFTER I uncheck the mask
> view on layer properties.
Because that would be a nuisance in the overwhelming number of
situations.
> As it stands now, I can't use a layer mask
> because I have to wait 5 or 6 seconds for the program to unfreeze every time
> I lift my pen.
Have you looked at your brush step size? Make it bigger. Try
painting with a smaller brush. You will have to make more
strokes but each stroke will be much faster since the amount
of processing depends on the *square* of the brush diameter.
> There's gotta be a better way. Help!
Look at your disk activity light while you are painting. If
you see it come on, you don't have enough RAM in your computer
and the slowness is related to Windows swapping memory to the
page file on disk. Add more RAM if necessary. Shutting down
other open applications may help but RAM is relatively
inexpensive and you can't have too much of it when working
on large images.
Eric
painting. But would there not be advantages to seeing the effect on the
mask only without seeing the resulting effect on the image? In other words,
let's say I have an adjustment layer that accomplishes what I want but I
don't want the correction on the whole area. I already know the area that I
wish to exclude. So really, all I need to see is a nice transparent hole in
the "red" mask overlay. I don't, at that point, really need to see the
resulting effect on the image. As a workaround, I find that I must group
the adjustment layer and creat a mask layer for that group. This is
uneccessarily tedious with a proper adjustment mask.
"Kris Zaklika" <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
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Xalinai
wrote:
You can speed up a lot if you close the little overview window (just
select the info tab instead) and work at 100% resolution.
Both measures reduce the amount of calculation necessary for each
brushstroke (calculate changed area, do a resample for the overview
image, do a resample for the visible part of the image...).
Michael
Uni
> This is my big gripe with PSP this week. Why should painting on a layer
> mask be so freaking slow???!!!
Spaghetti code.
:-)
Uni
Sceadu
> Kris, Thanks for the reply. I understand that I should see where I am
> painting. But would there not be advantages to seeing the effect on the
> mask only without seeing the resulting effect on the image? In other words,
> let's say I have an adjustment layer that accomplishes what I want but I
> don't want the correction on the whole area. I already know the area that I
> wish to exclude. So really, all I need to see is a nice transparent hole in
> the "red" mask overlay. I don't, at that point, really need to see the
> resulting effect on the image. As a workaround, I find that I must group
> the adjustment layer and creat a mask layer for that group. This is
> uneccessarily tedious with a proper adjustment mask.
I think a workaround is to make all the layers invisible, create a new layer and paint
what will be your mask on it, then create a mask from it for the Adjustment layer.
Sceadu
Uni
> "Eric" <erici...@ev1.net> wrote in message news:vpivppt...@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Kris, Thanks for the reply. I understand that I should see where I am
>>painting. But would there not be advantages to seeing the effect on the
>>mask only without seeing the resulting effect on the image? In other words,
>>let's say I have an adjustment layer that accomplishes what I want but I
>>don't want the correction on the whole area. I already know the area that I
>>wish to exclude. So really, all I need to see is a nice transparent hole in
>>the "red" mask overlay. I don't, at that point, really need to see the
>>resulting effect on the image. As a workaround, I find that I must group
>>the adjustment layer and creat a mask layer for that group. This is
>>uneccessarily tedious with a proper adjustment mask.
>
>
> I think a workaround is to make all the layers invisible,
More workarounds. Just what the world needs.
Uni
Kris Zaklika
>
> Kris, Thanks for the reply. I understand that I should see where I am
> painting. But would there not be advantages to seeing the effect on the
> mask only without seeing the resulting effect on the image? In other words,
> let's say I have an adjustment layer that accomplishes what I want but I
> don't want the correction on the whole area. I already know the area that I
> wish to exclude. So really, all I need to see is a nice transparent hole in
> the "red" mask overlay. I don't, at that point, really need to see the
> resulting effect on the image. As a workaround, I find that I must group
> the adjustment layer and creat a mask layer for that group. This is
> uneccessarily tedious with a proper adjustment mask.
As I said in my e-mail reply to you, do this. Start by painting
a selection over the region you wish to modify with a subsequent
adjustment layer. Do this by doing Selections > Edit Selection.
(It works like painting masks.) When done, toggle Edit Selection
and then invert the selection. Create the adjustment layer and
make it active. The selection will now work on the adjustment
layer. Press Delete to remove everything from the adjustment
layer except the portion where you want the adjustment. Finally,
set the adjustment using the Properties of the layer.
Eric
> As I said in my e-mail reply to you, do this. Start by painting
> a selection over the region you wish to modify with a subsequent
> adjustment layer. Do this by doing Selections > Edit Selection.
> (It works like painting masks.) When done, toggle Edit Selection
> and then invert the selection. Create the adjustment layer and
> make it active. The selection will now work on the adjustment
> layer. Press Delete to remove everything from the adjustment
> layer except the portion where you want the adjustment. Finally,
> set the adjustment using the Properties of the layer.
Thanks Kris,
Your suggestion is a variation on what I've been doing since giving up on
layer masks. I'm just working on my wish-list for PSP9 in a couple of
years. In the meantime I love PSP8. I am now about one third threw my box
of old photos and having a great time with PSP.
Sceadu
>
> More workarounds. Just what the world needs.
It's better than whining about it.
Sceadu
Vin
> Why should painting on a layer> mask be so freaking slow???!!! I've only
noticed this recently when I
> started working with very large photos (88meg).
Don't use v8.0 so may get shot down for even suggesting this.... but could
the size of the file and the UnDo facility be dragging the times down? I
know on my previous 'slow' machine I sometimes had to switch UnDo off when
working on large files to get reasonable speed.
Uni
> "Eric" <erici...@ev1.net> wrote in message
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>
>>Why should painting on a layer> mask be so freaking slow???!!! I've only
>
> noticed this recently when I
>
>>started working with very large photos (88meg).
>
>
> Don't use v8.0
Excellent advice.
:-)
Uni