Ilya Razmanov - Watercolour effect
Sean
In PSP, the Edge Preserving Filter produces a very nice "watercolour" effect
if you set a high value (15 to 20)
The effect gives a set of different results if you first reduce the original
number colours down to, say, 16, 12, 8 etc, increase colour depth and then
apply the filter
The effect looks good on both scenery and portraits
...maybe not true watercolour, but definitely "painterly"
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Dario de Judicibus
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> Hi Ilya,
>
> In PSP, the Edge Preserving Filter produces a very nice "watercolour"
effect
> if you set a high value (15 to 20)
> The effect looks good on both scenery and portraits
> ...maybe not true watercolour, but definitely "painterly"
Well, if you use a Sharpen More after applying the filter, you get an
interesting "coloured ink effect". It is very good for B&W too...
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Dr. Dario de Judicibus
Ilya Razmanov
>
> In PSP, the Edge Preserving Filter produces a very nice "watercolour"
effect
> if you set a high value (15 to 20)
>
> The effect gives a set of different results if you first reduce the
original
> number colours down to, say, 16, 12, 8 etc, increase colour depth and then
> apply the filter
>
> The effect looks good on both scenery and portraits
>
> ...maybe not true watercolour, but definitely "painterly"
>
> --
> Sean
> www.firebird.net
Hi Sean,
in fact, this is, probably, somewhat close to that my filter tries to do: I
tried to develop some weird "posterize by sorting" idea (don't know if it
sounds clear but that's what it does) for "simplifying" the colors. And the
filter does what I want (in math terms) but... it does not LOOK like what I
want ;-)
Thanks for the idea,
Ilyich.
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- Day of the Tentacle.
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Sean
Ilya Razmanov <ily...@cacr.ioc.ac.ru> wrote in message >
> Hi Sean,
> in fact, this is, probably, somewhat close to that my filter tries to do:
I
> tried to develop some weird "posterize by sorting" idea (don't know if it
> sounds clear but that's what it does) for "simplifying" the colors. And
the
> filter does what I want (in math terms) but... it does not LOOK like what
I
> want ;-)
>
> Thanks for the idea,
>
> Ilyich.
Real Watercolour painting differs radically from oils/acrylic in these main
areas:
1. The whiteness of the paper is often allowed to come up through the colour
pigment.
2. Different techniques are possible because of the fluidity of the paint.
One of these ...wet into wet, is a trademark of many watercolour paintings,
resulting in soft edges.
3. By letting the wet into wet stage dry on the paper, further soft and hard
edge painting is possible
Similarly, if it were possible to create a filter to imitate watercolour
effects, the digital artist would probably use the filter differently on a
number of layers before finally merging the final image ...it might not be a
case of applying the filter in a "once off" situation.
The Edge Preserving Filter in PSP (set at 15-20) comes much closer to real
painting than the Watercolor filter in Photoshop in my opinion.
Ilya Razmanov
>
>
> Real Watercolour painting differs radically from oils/acrylic in these
main
> areas:
> 1. The whiteness of the paper is often allowed to come up through the
colour
> pigment.
> 2. Different techniques are possible because of the fluidity of the paint.
> One of these ...wet into wet, is a trademark of many watercolour
paintings,
> resulting in soft edges.
> 3. By letting the wet into wet stage dry on the paper, further soft and
hard
> edge painting is possible
>
> Similarly, if it were possible to create a filter to imitate watercolour
> effects, the digital artist would probably use the filter differently on a
> number of layers before finally merging the final image ...it might not be
a
> case of applying the filter in a "once off" situation.
Actually, I'm not trying to create one-button instant-masterpiece filter and
I never was. I never beleived in instant masterpieces (neither did I beleive
in working with my computer using one-button keyboard placed right on my
chair <g>). That's why my filters have so many sliders ;-)
This time I was just thinking that perharps I may solve the problem of
"simplifying image and colors in an artistic way" using some well-tuned core
code developed long ago for absolutely different filter, giving only minimal
modifications (you know, I'm lazy <g>). And looks like, indeed, it gives
some "pseudo-artistic" output but it is not like the watercolor (original
post topic). Maybe it's not my month - I also failed with some weird image
enhancement algorithm which appeared to enhance all the junk in an image but
not the important things ;-(
I very much appreciate your comments because I'm not a painter (although my
daughter think the opposite because I can draw an elefant while she cannot
<g>) and the painter I'm working with (who actually gave several good ideas
for the recent filters) is on vacation. Perharps some better understanding
of real-world process will allow me to create something usefull...
Ilyich.
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Ilya Razmanov (a.k.a. Ilyich the Toad)
http://photoshop.msk.ru/ - Photoshop plug-in filters
"It has 3 settings: 'Cook','Jet defrost' and 'Mutilate beyond recognition'"
- Laverne, Day of the Tentacle.
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Kris Zaklika
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>
> I very much appreciate your comments because I'm not a painter (although my
> daughter think the opposite because I can draw an elefant while she cannot
> <g>) and the painter I'm working with (who actually gave several good ideas
> for the recent filters) is on vacation. Perharps some better understanding
> of real-world process will allow me to create something usefull...
Make the most of your daughter's adulation. In a few more years
she'll think you are an old person with no understanding of
modern youth :) File the memory now - in two different places
for safety :)
>
> Ilyich.
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> Ilya Razmanov (a.k.a. Ilyich the Toad)
> http://photoshop.msk.ru/ - Photoshop plug-in filters
> "It has 3 settings: 'Cook','Jet defrost' and 'Mutilate beyond recognition'"
> - Laverne, Day of the Tentacle.
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Ilya Razmanov
"Kris Zaklika" <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
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> Ilya Razmanov wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > I very much appreciate your comments because I'm not a painter (although
my
> > daughter think the opposite because I can draw an elefant while she
cannot
> > <g>)
>
> she'll think you are an old person with no understanding of
> modern youth :)
I know I am already, so it wouldn't hurt me ;-(
> File the memory now - in two different places
> for safety :)
Normally I keep it on CDs, make incremental backups with KeepIt and store
the most critical and frequently updated stuff on a private account,
PGP-encoded. But considering the fact that I know nothing about next ten
years favorite CD filesystem, OS and processor architecture (not to mention
modern youth), maybe it's not enough...
Ilyich.
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Ilya Razmanov (a.k.a. Ilyich the Toad)
http://photoshop.msk.ru/ - Photoshop plug-in filters
"Then one loses the reason for existence, one tends to get
less motivated" - Utwig, Star Control II
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