Question?? car painting
WackyBill
I have photos of my 30 ford coupe and am trying to see what color scheme looks
good before I goto the paint shop. I didnt do this with my 65 El Camino and it
cost
me a paint job. ($1500).
when I use the airbrush it all goes flat. Flood fill only gets 1 pixel.
What am I doing? I have tried layers, but get same results.
Help me Please.
Bill
Beth Winter
Airbrush on a layer (yes, it'll be flat), then switch the layer blend
mode to color ^_^
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Porter
"WackyBill" <wack...@aol.com4356> wrote in message
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Retouch tool > Color to Target. Choose whatever color you wish as the
foreground color in the Color Palette. This becomes your "target" color.
Retouch is the HAND icon on your regular tool palette. There is a dropdown
list of NINETEEN additional tools that become available on the Tool Options
palette whenever the Retouch tool is active.
Porter
Kris Zaklika
>
> I and kinda new at PSP 7 and am trying to paint cars different colors.
> I have photos of my 30 ford coupe and am trying to see what color scheme looks
> good before I goto the paint shop. I didnt do this with my 65 El Camino and it
> cost
> me a paint job. ($1500).
> when I use the airbrush it all goes flat. Flood fill only gets 1 pixel.
> What am I doing?
You are making a mistake. You are trying to paint the car
a uniform color but it isn't a uniform color is it? Parts
have highlights and parts are darker in response to the
interaction of lighting with the three-dimensional shape
of the object. Run the Eye-dropper Tool over it and you'll
see I'm right. Fortunately, there is a way to deal with
this. Use Effects > Enhance Photo > Manual Color Correction.
In the left preview window drag out a rectangle over a
portion of you car. Try to pick a midtone range, i.e.
colors that are not too dark or not too light. Select a
replacement color by clicking on the Custom Color swatch.
Start with Preserve lightness checked and Preserve
saturation unchecked, then play with unchecking Preserve
lightness. To restrict the color change to just the car
in the image, first select the car with one of the
selections tools such as Lasso or Magic Wand. I just tried
this on a picture of a pale blue car and turned it red,
green, yellow and Elvis pink without any problems. Of
course, I had to be careful to exclude the chrome bumper
and the tail lights and windows from the color change. You
can use Shift with a selection tool to add something to a
selection or Ctrl to removes something (e.g. a tail light).
> I have tried layers, but get same results.
Layers are irrelevant to the task.
> Help me Please.
>
> Bill
>
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WackyBill
19 new tools!!! Been playin with PSP for along time but never found that.
Its a good thing you learn new things everyday.
WackyBill
Fugitive
>You are making a mistake. You are trying to paint the car
>a uniform color but it isn't a uniform color is it? Parts
>have highlights and parts are darker in response to the
>interaction of lighting with the three-dimensional shape
>of the object. Run the Eye-dropper Tool over it and you'll
>see I'm right. Fortunately, there is a way to deal with
>this. Use Effects > Enhance Photo > Manual Color Correction.
>In the left preview window drag out a rectangle over a
>portion of you car. Try to pick a midtone range, i.e.
>colors that are not too dark or not too light. Select a
>replacement color by clicking on the Custom Color swatch.
>Start with Preserve lightness checked and Preserve
>saturation unchecked, then play with unchecking Preserve
>lightness. To restrict the color change to just the car
>in the image, first select the car with one of the
>selections tools such as Lasso or Magic Wand. I just tried
>this on a picture of a pale blue car and turned it red,
>green, yellow and Elvis pink without any problems. Of
>course, I had to be careful to exclude the chrome bumper
>and the tail lights and windows from the color change. You
>can use Shift with a selection tool to add something to a
>selection or Ctrl to removes something (e.g. a tail light).
>
>> I have tried layers, but get same results.
>
>Layers are irrelevant to the task.
>
the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff. I
posted one over on comp-graphics that I scanned from a car calendar.
greg
Greg
a few things....< http://community.webshots.com/user/fugitive02
It is better to be high-spirited even though one makes more mistakes, than to be narrow-minded and all to prudent.
V.Van Gogh
Kris Zaklika
[snip]
> >Layers are irrelevant to the task.
> >
> I beg to differ with you, I have colored several cars in PSP and in
> the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
> color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff. I
> posted one over on comp-graphics that I scanned from a car calendar.
What I mean is that layers are irrelevant to accomplishing
the task by the method I described. You will have noticed
another poster suggested your method and still another
suggested retouch in Color To Target mode. I was trying to
make a suggestion that (1) didn't require familiarity with
layers and (2) didn't require brush skills since, from the
description of what was tried by the poster, he did not yet
seem to have an expert command of PSP. As usual, of course,
there is more than one way to do things in PSP.
> greg
>
> Greg
>
> a few things....< http://community.webshots.com/user/fugitive02
> It is better to be high-spirited even though one makes more mistakes, than to be narrow-minded and all to prudent.
> V.Van Gogh
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Fugitive
wrote:
>Fugitive wrote:
>[snip]
>
>> >Layers are irrelevant to the task.
>> >
>> I beg to differ with you, I have colored several cars in PSP and in
>> the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
>> color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff. I
>> posted one over on comp-graphics that I scanned from a car calendar.
>
>What I mean is that layers are irrelevant to accomplishing
>the task by the method I described. You will have noticed
>another poster suggested your method and still another
>suggested retouch in Color To Target mode. I was trying to
>make a suggestion that (1) didn't require familiarity with
>layers and (2) didn't require brush skills since, from the
>description of what was tried by the poster, he did not yet
>seem to have an expert command of PSP. As usual, of course,
>there is more than one way to do things in PSP.
That's what I get for assuming. Thanks. BTW, no one responded to my
post about the perspective grid. What do you think?
Don Stauffer
you will be getting a 'flat' paint job. That is probably okay to start
with. Then, you need to assume where the light is coming from, and
change the brightness appropriately. Increase brightness with same hue
and saturation to create highlights, reduce brightness for areas which
are shaded or at large angle to light source. Also, if there is
anything else but car in scene, you may need to paint in some
reflections in the paint.
--
Don Stauffer in Minnesota
stau...@usfamily.net
webpage- http://www.usfamily.net/web/stauffer
Kris Zaklika
[snip]
> That's what I get for assuming. Thanks. BTW, no one responded to my
> post about the perspective grid. What do you think?
It's not the first time it has been requested. Freehand
does it. There are expensive plug-ins for Illustrator:
http://www.hotdoor.com/perspective/
> greg
>
> Greg
>
> a few things....< http://community.webshots.com/user/fugitive02
> It is better to be high-spirited even though one makes more mistakes, than to be narrow-minded and all to prudent.
> V.Van Gogh
--
Kris Zaklika
>
> <comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
> gregfar...@earthlink.net>
>
> > >Layers are irrelevant to the task.
> > >
> > I beg to differ with you, I have colored several cars in PSP and in
> > the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
> > color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff.
>
1. Open your car image.
2. Layers > New Raster Layer, setting Blend Mode to Color.
3. Paint with a colored brush on this layer staying within
the outlines of the car.
I hope that was quick enough :)
Bill Schnakenberg
> > >
> > I beg to differ with you, I have colored several cars in PSP and in
> > the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
> > color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff.
>
Not a car, but perhaps this site will help:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~willshak/photocolor/
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Fugitive
<webm...@newsservers.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:
><comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
>gregfar...@earthlink.net>
>
>> >Layers are irrelevant to the task.
>> >
>> I beg to differ with you, I have colored several cars in PSP and in
>> the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
>> color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff.
>
>Sounds good , Fancy doing a quick text how to do it guide ? .
If you have any trouble, email me and I'll walk you thru it.
Fugitive
<webm...@newsservers.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:
><comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
>gregfar...@earthlink.net>
>
>> >Sounds good , Fancy doing a quick text how to do it guide ? .
>>
>>
>> If you have any trouble, email me and I'll walk you thru it.
>> greg
>
>I have it sussed now - thanks , Like yourself I used a car image &
>messing around with some rainbow gradient fills was great fun :-)
ever listen to the Who?
Fugitive
<webm...@newsservers.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:
><comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
>gregfar...@earthlink.net>
>
>> >Sounds good , Fancy doing a quick text how to do it guide ? .
>>
>>
>> If you have any trouble, email me and I'll walk you thru it.
>> greg
>
>BTW , Heres what I done tonight with your tint technique .
>
>http://www.peterkerr.freeserve.co.uk/lotus.html
What is that car, yours? Astin Martin, Lotus, Lambo?
Looks good, it feels good to get it, doesn't it?
Sally Beacham
"Kris Zaklika" <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
news:3CBC37BC...@jasc.com...
> Fugitive wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > That's what I get for assuming. Thanks. BTW, no one responded to my
> > post about the perspective grid. What do you think?
>
> It's not the first time it has been requested. Freehand
> does it. There are expensive plug-ins for Illustrator:
> http://www.hotdoor.com/perspective/
>
Perspective filter .... there's an online tryout if you want to check it
out.
--
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www.lvsonline.com / Filter Frenzy, Xara X
FilterMunky / www.psppower.com
Fugitive
wrote:
>
>"Kris Zaklika" <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
>news:3CBC37BC...@jasc.com...
>> Fugitive wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> > That's what I get for assuming. Thanks. BTW, no one responded to my
>> > post about the perspective grid. What do you think?
>>
>> It's not the first time it has been requested. Freehand
>> does it. There are expensive plug-ins for Illustrator:
>> http://www.hotdoor.com/perspective/
>>
>
>http://www.andromeda.com/
>
>Perspective filter .... there's an online tryout if you want to check it
>out.
Not the same thing, what I proposed is a grid to give guide lines on
the page so one can draw a street or town scene, or houses.
Fugitive
<webm...@newsservers.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:
><comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
>gregfar...@earthlink.net>
>
>> >> If you have any trouble, email me and I'll walk you thru it.
>> >> greg
>> >
>> >BTW , Heres what I done tonight with your tint technique .
>> >
>> >http://www.peterkerr.freeserve.co.uk/lotus.html
>>
>>
>> What is that car, yours?
>
>Its just a little runabout I use to nip down to the local Kmart :-)
Yeah, I'm sure, probably wouldn't even hold golf clubs.
Uni
NS wrote:
>
> <comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
> gregfar...@earthlink.net>
>
> > >Sounds good , Fancy doing a quick text how to do it guide ? .
> >
> >
> > If you have any trouble, email me and I'll walk you thru it.
> > greg
>
> BTW , Heres what I done tonight with your tint technique .
>
> http://www.peterkerr.freeserve.co.uk/lotus.html
Looks nice! Nice work!
Uni
JR Hess
The ship mouseover is very effective.
Thanks,
John Hess
imc...@imcool.com
http://www.imcool.com
'66-'67 28th Trans Platoon
Qui Nhon, Pleiku and beyond
Bill Schnakenberg <will...@frontiernet.net> Proclaimed:
> NS wrote:
>> <comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
>> gregfar...@earthlink.net>
>>
>>>> Layers are irrelevant to the task.
>>>>
>>> I beg to differ with you, I have colored several cars in PSP and in
>>> the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
>>> color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff.
>> Sounds good, Fancy doing a quick text how to do it guide?
Bill Schnakenberg
>
> Some really nice tuts, Bill.
> The ship mouseover is very effective.
Thanks. Almost all of the 'before' images are mouseovers there.
>
> Bill Schnakenberg <will...@frontiernet.net> Proclaimed:
> > NS wrote:
> >> <comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro , Fugitive ,
> >> gregfar...@earthlink.net>
> >>
> >>>> Layers are irrelevant to the task.
> >>>>
> >>> I beg to differ with you, I have colored several cars in PSP and in
> >>> the beginning it drove me mad until I discovered using a layer and the
> >>> color mode. It retained all the highlights, reflections and stuff.
> >> Sounds good, Fancy doing a quick text how to do it guide?
> >
> > Not a car, but perhaps this site will help:
> > http://www.frontiernet.net/~willshak/photocolor/
WackyBill
Kriss Z. knows more about PSP than anyone should. The Navy guy(cant remember
Names), your web page is great. Good Job!!
I notice one thing that is giving me the major problem. You all had light
images to start with and mine is primer black. Still workin on it when
finnished will post some where or send you before and after.
thanks loads.
BTW if I had a Lotus I wouldn't be goin to Kmart.
wackybill
Kris Zaklika
>
> I really am grateful that you all took the time to help me out. I think that
> Kriss Z. knows more about PSP than anyone should. The Navy guy(cant remember
> Names), your web page is great. Good Job!!
> I notice one thing that is giving me the major problem. You all had light
> images to start with and mine is primer black.
Try doing Colors > Adjust > Gamma Correction with a value
greater than one to lighten it before colorizing.
> Still workin on it when
> finnished will post some where or send you before and after.
> thanks loads.
> BTW if I had a Lotus I wouldn't be goin to Kmart.
>
> wackybill
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every time I thought I had it I checked the garage and it was still
red...........:)
Kris Zaklika <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
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Kris Zaklika
>
> I have red 67 Camaro, worked for hours in PSP to change it to dark green and
> every time I thought I had it I checked the garage and it was still
> red...........:)
Yes, but no over spray to clean up :)
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