"Oil" painting
R. Joanne Johnson
I am going to include the url which will take you to two oil painting pages
I have done. I am really a bit apprehensive asking anyone in this group to
visit because I am not professional in any way as most of you seem to
be...just having fun!!!
I am still with the query of acquiring a paint program which will give me
the options of water color, oils, etc. as in the fashion of what I am
attempting on these pages.
I have seen mentioned here Painter Classic and Art Dabbler and wonder which
best would suit the kinds of things I like to do. (Hope I have those names
correct)
Looking for feedback.
Thanks,
Joanne
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/oilpaint.html
Jan
> I am still with the query of acquiring a paint program which will give me
> the options of water color, oils, etc. as in the fashion of what I am
> attempting on these pages.
There's a wonderful page that has tutorials on oil painting with PSP.
IT's
called Digitoils. You can find the url..and a "digitoil" I did on links
from my PSP page below. btw..Digitoils is "digital oil painting".
Here's the url for my page...
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9448/Psp.htm
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diana
R. Joanne Johnson wrote:
> I am still with the query of acquiring a paint program which will give me
> the options of water color, oils, etc. as in the fashion of what I am
> attempting on these pages.
If you spend a little time learning the software, you can get amazing results
with Paint Shop Pro. A great site to see the capabilities of PSP for oil type
painting is Al Dawson's Digital Oils at
http://iw1.indyweb.net/~adawson/howdo.html
I don't have any informed remarks about Painter Classic, I haven't tried a demo
or seen it running on a demo software computer at the store. The description
reads like it is Painter Lite but including a simpler interface and that sounds
encouraging. Painter (the full blown version 4 or 5) is a really complicated,
but extremely powerful program.
I was less than impressed with the interface of Art Dabbler although the program
does have nice tools. You can see what the interface of Art Dabbler is like at
http://www.metatools.com/products/dabbler/demo/
Info about Painter Classic is at
http://www.metacreations.com/products/painter_classic/key_benefits.html
Diana
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R. Joanne Johnson
Okay, I have spent the afternoon getting to know the art department in PSP
and I am pleased beyond description. I had not known the possibilities for
'oil' painting with PSP and thought that I had to use the paint program and
then slide my painting in and out of PSP in order to get some of the
sharpening, etc. and backgrounds I wanted.
WELL!!! Not anymore. I discovered the use of the push brush....and the
clone brush. I wsa doing lilacs and once I had created one blossom head,
used the clone brush to create the others. Not only did they look good and
were really fun to place, they developed a kind of shading that was natural
to a clump of lilac.
BUT, the very best discovery was the push brush. Put a blob of 'paint'
over an area and push it around. Add a dab of another color and push them
together and depending on which way you push, you can create highs and lows
of the colors and swirl them and ..well, you just have to try it!!! It
gives the feeling of something liquid. soon, I shall have another page of
oil paintings to put up entirely painted with PSP.
Thanks, Diana, for the tip, "get to know the software"...and I am sure
there are more things waiting to be tried and used.
You just have to try the 'push' brush and see what it is like...such a
feeling of almost really pushing paint around.
Now my problem is to make myself want to do anythignother than 'oil' paint.
Joanne
Dave
R. Joanne Johnson wrote:
> I am going to include the url which will take you to two oil painting pages
> I have done. I am really a bit apprehensive asking anyone in this group to
> visit because I am not professional in any way as most of you seem to
> be...just having fun!!!
>
> I am still with the query of acquiring a paint program which will give me
> the options of water color, oils, etc. as in the fashion of what I am
> attempting on these pages.
>
> I have seen mentioned here Painter Classic and Art Dabbler and wonder which
> best would suit the kinds of things I like to do. (Hope I have those names
> correct)
>
> Looking for feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Joanne
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/oilpaint.html
I am not into oil painting or watercolor and the like at all, being more
interested in photo-image manipulation, but I never cease to be amazed that a
program such as PSP5 can do so well in both areas and who knows wherever else?
What you have on your web pages looks like oil painting to me.
Joe Cilinceon
You also might try some of the custom brushes for Photoshop 4. There are
some at http://pluginhead.i-us.com/ These give some great effects as well.
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R. Joanne Johnson wrote in message <6ivll8$s...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
Max Cool
Joanne, this paragraph is such a good description of oil painting with PSP
that I'm inspired to learn:
"Put a blob of 'paint' over an area and push it around. Add a dab of
another color and push them
together and depending on which way you push, you can create highs and lows
of the colors and swirl them and ..well, you just have to try it!!!"
Thanks, Max
R. Joanne Johnson <johanna...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
Jenny Brandis
R. Joanne Johnson wrote:
> <snip>
> I am still with the query of acquiring a paint program which will give
> me
> the options of water color, oils, etc. as in the fashion of what I am
> attempting on these pages.
>
Hi Joanne,
For a 'art' type paint program I think you may like to check out
Matisse Light. It allows you
to get the following medium effects
charcoal, oils, pencil, pastels, watercolour etc.
The copy I tried was on a 'PC Review' CD back in July 1995 and it was
not the effect I was after.
but from what I gather you require, it may be perfect - and the great
thing is if it did all this in 1995 -
what does it do now?
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In article <6iv5s5$3...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
"R. Joanne Johnson" <johanna...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have seen mentioned here Painter Classic and Art Dabbler and wonder which
> best would suit the kinds of things I like to do. (Hope I have those names
> correct)
>
> Looking for feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Joanne
>
makes Painter 5. Art Dabbler is the most basic version and costs about $50.
Painter Classic is $99 and looks like a better program (I don't have it -yet,
just been looking at reviews etc. online) and I think you'd be able to do a
lot more with it than dabbler. I even went to the store and looked at the box
and it looks like a great fun program. I have just recently spent the same amt
of money on PhotoImpact which is why I am currently only drooling over Painter
Classic rather than rushing out and buying it. It is definitely on my wish
list.
Barbara
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bar...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Dabbler is the lowest version, Painter Classic has a few more functions, Painter
5 has all the whistles and bells, except for the 3d functions which are in (what
else?) Painter 3D.
All are versions of the same program, and there are enough similarities to make
any user cuss them. The way the program implements layers is an industry wide
joke. (try erasing something from a layer! The eraser paints the background
color, and 75% of the normal tools DON'T work on the layer!)
The creators of Painter have never paid any attention to User interfacing,
making use of the program difficult to say the least. Here's an example: Using
the tracing paper:
Load the image, make a clone of the image, select everything in the clone, hit
erase, click on the tracing paper symbol, and wow! you've got the image under
the clone, fogged out.
Foolish people think they can lay a trace just by hitting the tracing symbol and
wonder why it doesn't work.
Everything in Painter works like that. You can get some really fantastic
results, but you've got to know the procedure to follow, even when they seem
from left field. I get aggregated with Painter because each time I go to use
it, I have to re-learn all of the tricks to using it. Most times I go looking
for another program.
D'Lan
David Poskie
I have both Art Dabbler and Painter Classic. Dabbler seems like a subset of
Painter to me so far. I bought Painter because I wanted more than Dabbler
had. If I were starting new, I think I'd go straight to Painter (although
Dabbler is lots of fun).
Visited your site and liked your efforts at painting, although it reminds me
of watercolor, rather than oil painting.
David
Shena Delian O'Brien
Go to this site:
http://iw1.indyweb.net/~adawson/noframe.html
This person is SO talented!!! I followed the tutorials myself and made
stunning pictures of my own. :) It's got me completely inspired to
create "Digitoils" (Digital Oil Paintings) from my own imagination.
The best thing about it is, you can do it ALL in Paint Shop Pro! No "Art
Dabbler" or "Painter Classic" needed!
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Great landscape paintings! Now if we can only get him a television show like Bob
Ross had. Only this time using a computer and PSP : )
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I agree with Shena. There seems to be a challenge to many who have
never seen themselves as 'artists'. The challenge is to damn the
torpedoes and work/experiment with what you've got. And the result is
called 'art'.
If you've got a scanner and a photo of a landscape, scan it into a jpg
at 300dpi, full size (4 x 5 in) and then start playing with the image
with PSP. Sample the colours you want to use to draw attention to
certain aspects of the scene, and put them in you pallet. Blob them
into the image (a small selection in an area where you want to work,
and with the fill tool set at solid colour, pour the selected colour
into it. Smudge it around with the retouch tool after having expanded
the selection area where you dropped the paint. As previously stated,
you're now 'oil painting' experiment. don't be afraid to 'make
mistakes'. It's your eye that works with your mind to satisfy your
mind. People paint oils without hands, parapalegics can do it. It's
called art. Don't be afraid. It's only ions.
cheers
Bob
tco...@janics.com
> Hi Joanne,
>
> For a 'art' type paint program I think you may like to check out
> Matisse Light. It allows you
> to get the following medium effects
>
> charcoal, oils, pencil, pastels, watercolour etc.
>
> The copy I tried was on a 'PC Review' CD back in July 1995 and it was
> not the effect I was after.
> but from what I gather you require, it may be perfect - and the great
> thing is if it did all this in 1995 -
> what does it do now?
>
> --
> Jenny Brandis
> Meekatharra, Western Australia
> email [mailto:bra...@benet.net.au]
>
> Genealogy, the armchair hobby?
> http://www.benet.net.au/~brandis/
> includes the Australian and New Zealand Genealogical Links Galore
>
>Took a bit of doing, but I tracked down the Matisse program you had tried.
Unfortunately, Macromedia bought up the company and the 'Matisse' program is
reduced to a notation in the 'obsolete and unsupported' programs listings.
Wonder why they bought the company?
T. Counts
Herb Holden
I have just gotten into oil type paintings and love it. I started with Al
Dawson's tutorials and went from there. Besides PSP I now use Adobe Photoshop
and Painter. I have just added a Wacom Tablet drawing board hoping it will
help. I just play with it but isn't it fun?
You can see my stuff on my home page.
Thanks,
Herb
R. Joanne Johnson wrote:
> I am going to include the url which will take you to two oil painting pages
> I have done. I am really a bit apprehensive asking anyone in this group to
> visit because I am not professional in any way as most of you seem to
> be...just having fun!!!
>
> I am still with the query of acquiring a paint program which will give me
> the options of water color, oils, etc. as in the fashion of what I am
> attempting on these pages.
>
> I have seen mentioned here Painter Classic and Art Dabbler and wonder which
> best would suit the kinds of things I like to do. (Hope I have those names
> correct)
>
> Looking for feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Joanne
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/6736/oilpaint.html
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