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PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes to combine shapes

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Tom the Almost Ugly

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Sep 29, 2009, 8:19:38 PM9/29/09
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How do I paste the nodes of one vector into a second vector, and get
PSP7 to treat the nodes as part of that vector?

In other words, how do I create these two vectors?...

KEYHOLE: Combine a circle and an equilateral triangle into one vector.
The arc of the circle inside the equilateral triangle is gone, and the
apex of the triangle inside the circle is gone, leaving just the
"keyhole" shape. Fill the keyhole-vector with black.

SNOWMAN: Create three circles of decreasing diameters, stacked smaller
circle atop bigger. Get rid of the interior circle arcs to leave only
the "snowman" shape. Fill the snowman-vector with white.

Kronk

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Sep 30, 2009, 3:02:48 AM9/30/09
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Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,

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| Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
| Subject: PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes to combine shapes
| Message-ID: <25c50571-4a3f-4e25...@k41g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>
you wrote:

Draw Shapes Vector Tool Right-click Node edit
Depending where nodes are and how you ultimately wish the shape to
look like ..if NODE right where you want it Select it (on node at a
time) ..by, drawing a selection box around the node ..using the Vector
Tool. i.e. if you touch the node by / or to select ..it usually
moves, drawing a selection box around it ends up selecting it without
moving. What are we doing or going to do.. remove the section
that'll be / would be overlapping. So.. selected keyboard combo
short-cut [Control + K] break.

ZOOOM in really really close notice the PATH direction right there
now are TWO nodes side by side ..END probably should be the part you
want to have remain. Start should be part of what is needed to be
removed. Grab ahold of that ..move it slightly (just so its easier to
grab onto and or for selection later. Now, move to the other end of
the part you want to remove. Againg Draw a selection box around it
[Control + K] break again look at those do nodes ..notice as you
hover the cursor over it ..whether it says START or END ..you should
be wanting the END ..as it is the other end of the section you want to
remove ..and that other end had START ..so this should be END ..move
it out away from the part wanted to remain. With enough distance
away from the part need to remain. Draw a selection box around the
nodes of the section to be removed press [DELETE]

Draw a selection box around the remaining shape ..so that they are all
selected [Control + C] copy

Now, if you look at the VECTOR layer. You'll notice there are TWO
shape layers ..you are on one ...switch to the next one up.

Right-click Node Edit Edit - Paste All the nodes (should be
selected) w/the Vector Tool cursor/pointer leftmouse button click
(ADD HOLD) move this newly pasted copy of the edited shape so it
aligns with the bottom vector shape layer below.

All aligned w/Vector tool click LMB click anywhere outside of the
shape ..deselecting the copied shape

NOW, (I'd guess.. on "this" shape layer, the shape hasn't be edited
yet) More than likely, you'll need to ADD nodes where the newly
copied shape are now bi-secting / intersectin the shape on this level

Anyway, ADD (hold down [Control] key hover over the shapes line. The
cursor/pointer will get " + add " appended to the cursor. Click on
..well, any point on the line if you want.. but right near where the
copied shape now is.. if not 'quite' right pick it up and move it so
its overtop ..alignment is good? if so, [Control + K] break.

We are now starting to select/define the section of the circle to be
removed ..move the START end of the part to be removed ..out of the
way ..and in such a position that it'll be easy to select both nodes
of this part to be removed (but, so far we only have just done One
break ..again, add a node to the other end where it intersects
/bi-sects the shape added ..all aligned [Control + K} break.. Since
the other end of the section was START ..yeap, this other end now with
have END (as you hover over it with the cursor. Move this end out of
the way. Select both nodes of this to be removed section/arc
[Delete]

Now you have TWO edited shapes on one layer ..but, currently, no nodes
are selected. Go to ONE of the (pair of) nodes ontop of each other,
draw a selection box around them Right-click Edit - Join selected.

Now, on to the other PAIR of nodes aligned ontop of each other, again
draw a selection box around ..repeat Edit - Join selected.

Bottomline you keep doing this add node break join selected ..till
its all KOOL LIKE THAT :-)

Always selection the NODEs COPY ..switching shape layers Node Edit
Edit Paste ..till all shapes are added onto into one layer now as the
NEW shape Keyhole or Snowman

Kronk

Kronk

Tom the Almost Ugly

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Oct 1, 2009, 1:08:32 AM10/1/09
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On Sep 30, 2:02 am, Kronk <Kr...@w-i-d-e-s-c-r-e-e-n.org> wrote:
> Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,
>
> In a message
> | Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
> | Subject: PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes to combine shapes
> | Message-ID: <25c50571-4a3f-4e25-91ea-89eea889b...@k41g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>

Thanks very much. One stupid question: When you say "Click LMB," what
does "LMB" mean?

Kronk

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Oct 1, 2009, 5:28:52 AM10/1/09
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Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,

In a message
| Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:08:32 -0700 (PDT)
| Subject: Re: PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes to combine shapes
| Message-ID: <f49aea26-1669-4fa5...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>
you wrote:


>
>Thanks very much. One stupid question: When you say "Click LMB," what
>does "LMB" mean?

You might be kick'n yourself, or smack'n your forehead,


..in some "I knew that" fashion


(L) eft (M) ouse (B) utton

Kronk

Trev

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Oct 1, 2009, 5:31:43 AM10/1/09
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My guess is Left Mouse Button

Kronk

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Oct 1, 2009, 7:33:53 AM10/1/09
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Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,

If you would like to see. I dun did a WeIRd "Vector Keyhole Madness"
placed it in the Corel Newsgroup ..as a JPG

>Newsgroups: corel.PaintShopPro_older_versions
>Subject: Vector Keyhole Madness - PSP v7.04
>Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:26:28 -0700
>Message-ID: <0n29c51c8r7fr95bq...@4ax.com>

Rather "Bizzaro" ..but, I was have'n fun ..and just kept on going, and
going ..and going. GONE!

Kronk

Tom the Almost Ugly

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Oct 1, 2009, 1:19:09 PM10/1/09
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On Oct 1, 4:28 am, Kronk <Kr...@w-i-d-e-s-c-r-e-e-n.org> wrote:
> Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,
>
> In a message
> | Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:08:32 -0700 (PDT)
> | Subject: Re: PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes to combine shapes
> | Message-ID: <f49aea26-1669-4fa5-8b3e-33c79c565...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>

>
> you wrote:
>
> >Thanks very much. One stupid question: When you say "Click LMB," what
> >does "LMB" mean?
>
> You might be kick'n yourself, or smack'n your forehead,
>
> ..in some "I knew that" fashion
>
> (L) eft (M) ouse (B) utton
>
> Kronk

D'Oh!

Tom the Almost Ugly

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Oct 1, 2009, 1:56:44 PM10/1/09
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On Oct 1, 4:28 am, Kronk <Kr...@w-i-d-e-s-c-r-e-e-n.org> wrote:
> Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,
>
> In a message
> | Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:08:32 -0700 (PDT)
> | Subject: Re: PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes to combine shapes
> | Message-ID: <f49aea26-1669-4fa5-8b3e-33c79c565...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>

>
> you wrote:
>
> >Thanks very much. One stupid question: When you say "Click LMB," what
> >does "LMB" mean?
>
> You might be kick'n yourself, or smack'n your forehead,
>
> ..in some "I knew that" fashion
>
> (L) eft (M) ouse (B) utton
>
> Kronk

I think you left off part of the name, or failed to mention something
-- "Even a moron knows THAT!" In any case, I can't find the group you
mentioned. Is it a Usenet group, Google group, Yahoo group, or what?

Making the keyhole as a JPG is easy, especially if the outline color
and the fill color are the same. But what if you then want to change
the shape or size, or make the outline a different color than the
fill? QED, you gotta frankenstein a keyhole _vector_. But alas, PSP is
a very useful program, but some of their vector stuff they do _not_
document well.

Trev

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Oct 1, 2009, 2:01:12 PM10/1/09
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Tom the Almost Ugly wrote:
> On Oct 1, 4:28 am, Kronk <Kr...@w-i-d-e-s-c-r-e-e-n.org> wrote:
>> Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,
>>
>> In a message
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:08:32 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Subject: Re: PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes
>>> to combine shapes Message-ID:
>>> <f49aea26-1669-4fa5-8b3e-33c79c565...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>
>>
>> you wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks very much. One stupid question: When you say "Click LMB,"
>>> what
>>> does "LMB" mean?
>>
>> You might be kick'n yourself, or smack'n your forehead,
>>
>> ..in some "I knew that" fashion
>>
>> (L) eft (M) ouse (B) utton
>>
>> Kronk
>
> I think you left off part of the name, or failed to mention something
> -- "Even a moron knows THAT!" In any case, I can't find the group you
> mentioned. Is it a Usenet group, Google group, Yahoo group, or what?
>

To make them roll up to the side enable Quadrant rollups in Customize > Options.

I just played with the default workspace I opened the materials pallet which opened top right. I grabbed the title bar with the mouse and dragged it down a little to clear the top then to the right until it docked and sprang open the length of the side I then unlocked it, the push pin in the title bar, it then rolled up to the side.
I then repeated the process and docked it at the bottom whereupon it moved the organizer sideways and shared the space with it. After toggling the push pin it then rolled up and docked as a new bar just above the status.

news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopProPhotoX2
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopProPhotoXI
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopProX
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopPro9
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopPro8
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopPro_older_versions
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopPro_Photography
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopPro_Graphics
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopPro_Scripting
news://cnews.corel.com/corel.PaintShopPro_Scrapbooking


> Making the keyhole as a JPG is easy, especially if the outline color
> and the fill color are the same. But what if you then want to change
> the shape or size, or make the outline a different color than the
> fill? QED, you gotta frankenstein a keyhole _vector_. But alas, PSP is
> a very useful program, but some of their vector stuff they do _not_
> document well.

Just Combine into one Shape and save as Preset shape.

Kronk

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Oct 1, 2009, 6:16:51 PM10/1/09
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Hi Tom the Almost Ugly,

In a message
| Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:56:44 -0700 (PDT)


| Subject: Re: PSP7: Fancy node editing -- Copying and pasting nodes to combine shapes

| Message-ID: <02d9b1ec-7211-4c0a...@o41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
you wrote:

>
>I think you left off part of the name, or failed to mention something
>-- "Even a moron knows THAT!"

Well, yeah.. me a moron does know that.. but, only after smack'n
myself hundreds of times on my forehead. I'm still trying to get the
swell'n & inflamation to come down. ..and then it didn't help me
none, that I forgot the order in which to apply. Is it HOT then COLD
or COLD then HOT ..to reduce the swelling.

> In any case, I can't find the group you
>mentioned. Is it a Usenet group, Google group, Yahoo group, or what?

Trev as given you details on that ..

However, I think you might not get there. It would appear you are
accessing the NewsGroups via Google

(from your msgHeader)

>Organization: http://groups.google.com

..a HTML interface to the UseNet newsgroups.

The Corel newsgroups AFAIK, are not really a part of the "normal"
UseNet Hierarchy. ..or each service that may provide usenet access
may or maynot provide specific groups unless asked of the service
provider to provide.

Hmm, I believe you have to use an app for usenet. Outlook Express
..or Forte Agent.

(again from your msgHeader))

>X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8.1.20)
> Gecko/20081217 Firefox/2.0.0.20,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

From what I'm guess'n you are using Firefox as your Web/Internet
Browser.

Now.. like Microsoft provides "Internet Explorer & Outlook Express"

Firefox as it corollary program for Email & Newsgroups

D'oh, now I remember .."Thunderbird" ..at least I thnk so.

You'd enter in a new host to UseNet, in the app's settings page
"cnews.corel.com" port 119 You'd then access get Newsgroups that it
offers ...then subscribe to only the groups you wish.


>Making the keyhole as a JPG is easy, especially if the outline color
>and the fill color are the same. But what if you then want to change
>the shape or size, or make the outline a different color than the
>fill? QED, you gotta frankenstein a keyhole _vector_. But alas, PSP is
>a very useful program, but some of their vector stuff they do _not_
>document well.

hmm, all I really meant ..if this is about my saying JPG is the type
of file I uploaded.

Meaning it wasn't a "<filename>.psp" file

Nice thing about the privately hosted newsgroups is that you CAN
upload files with the ".psp" file type ..or ZIP up / archive the
".psp" within and upload to the group. "attaching" that file in a /
using the UUENCODED method.

(not to be too worried about all that, the app will know / )
(provide you with settings to make sure this is so. )

Anyway, I could have up'd the .PSP filetype. Or what is nice about
those Corel groups (since file attachments are allowed there ..normal
usenet groups do not UNLESS it has "binaries" in the newsgroup's name.

Hmm, doubt if Google carries any binaries newsgroups WAY TOO much
storage space would be needed.

Well, rather than trying to understand my wording / usage because of
Corel allowing file attachments in their newsgroups ..I can attach a
pic/ScreenShot to illustrate what I mean or meant to say.

Kronk

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